Where I stand on Trump

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BowlBrother85 said:
That is just my personal belief based on what I'm seeing. Just like when I saw posts from early October until mid-December that read "vote to impeach him then.", and I usually replied that it was on it's way, and then the vote happened... The Democrats have gone too far to back out now. The Senate will get the articles of impeachment soon.
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And the Dems will get their asses handed to them.
 
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volinbham said:
operative word.

I'd argue that Russian interference wasn't significant either. We as a country do it better in other countries elections.
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I would argue the hacking of the DNC was significant... and hacking into voter registration systems was very significant.
 
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vols40 said:
Just felt it was worth mentioning that you cited RCP as the one to watch.
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Who else are you going to cite? They provide a composite average result of all the major polls. It is the best way to account for a possible outlier.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I would argue the hacking of the DNC was significant... and hacking into voter registration systems was very significant.
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I'd argue that China probably hacked the DNC too. Maybe others. RNC as well.

Still zero evidence it had any impact on the election
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I would argue the hacking of the DNC was significant... and hacking into voter registration systems was very significant.
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But it's not very significant to keep top secret emails on a private server and not than ok deleting and bleach bitting thousands of emails? Got it
 
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volinbham said:
I'd argue that China probably hacked the DNC too. Maybe others. RNC as well.

Still zero evidence it had any impact on the election
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He's going to attack your sources on the above claim as disinformation and right wing conspiracy
 
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vols40 said:
Simply a follow up to your citing RCP as the standard of polling.
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It's the best way I know of to account for an outlier poll... to use a composite average of all current, major polls which is what Real Clear Politics does. Polls aren't infallible but taking a composite average of all of them, rather than just leaning on one, will likely get you the most accurate result.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Who else are you going to cite? They provide a composite average result of all the major polls. It is the best way to account for a possible outlier.
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Is this an admission that they were wrong in using polls who way oversampled Democrats to guide them?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
It's the best way I know of to account for an outlier poll... to use a composite average of all current, major polls which is what Real Clear Politics does. Polls aren't infallible but taking a composite average of all of them, rather than just leaning on one, will likely get you the most accurate result.
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Except for 2016? I forgot they forgot to account for the Russian interference.
 
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vols40 said:
Is this an admission that they were wrong in using polls who way oversampled Democrats to guide them?
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It's not an admission of anything. Real Clear Politics offers a composite average of all current, major polls. They will be right more than they will be wrong.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
It's not an admission of anything. Real Clear Politics offers a composite average of all current, major polls. They will be right more than they will be wrong.
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Are you saying that most of the polls that RCP used were not oversampling Democrats?
 
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vols40 said:
Are you saying that most of the polls that RCP used were not oversampling Democrats?
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I have no idea who the polls are sampling or if they even do inquire as to a respondent's political affiliation, but Real Clear Politics does use Rasmussen Reports... which is definitely not oversampling Democrats. Trump tweets their results whenever they have his approval rating at 50%. Although, he never tweets their results when he inevitably goes right back down to 45%.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I have no idea who the polls are sampling or if they even do inquire as to a respondent's political affiliation, but Real Clear Politics does use Rasmussen Reports... which is definitely not oversampling Democrats. Trump tweets their results whenever they have his approval rating at 50%. Although, he never tweets their results when he inevitably goes right back down to 45%.
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Lol.
How We Did - Rasmussen Reports®
 
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vols40 said:
Bowl Bro did you write this for Rasmussen? Lol we were there closest of everyone who picked Hillary to win. LMAO
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You are cherry picking results. Rasmussen Reports also had the 2012 election being much closer than what it was. Nate Silver has accused them of a Republican Party bias.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You are cherry picking results. Rasmussen Reports also had the 2012 election being much closer than what it was. Nate Silver has accused them of a Republican Party bias.
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No I offered my take on what they said after the election. That they were the closest of the ones who got it wrong. LMAO.
 
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