Where are all the Chryst followers tonight

[butchna]

JG had a good night. I think Chryst would have won the game too. The team played well across the board, collectively, together. Why you trying to hate on Chryst?

It’s more hating on those hatin on JG...via Chryst.

 

[butchna]

he will be the starter

Maybe someday...not while JG’s here.

-Reality

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

You mean his performance for two drives when the defense backed off the qb they didnt scout? What about the entire second half? Does that performance not factor into that? Get real.

They were blitzing Chryst. It was the first half and they did not back-off.

 

[MikeVol44]

Maybe someday...not while JG’s here.

-Reality

I am NOT one of those guys who thinks Chryst should be the starter.....but I certainly don't think he will stay the starter next year....

It's just my personal opinion....based on nothing else but Shrout's reputation and some reports about him on here.

I certainly MAY be wrong... but we will NOT WIN the SEC East with JG as our starting QB--that's REALITY.

 

[BloomuVol]

They were blitzing Chryst. It was the first half and they did not back-off.

now say it without crying.

 

[k-town_king]

You do realize that JG gameplan has primarily been short passes with occasional deep shot.

Most of the other good QB’s in UT history had the ability to consistently throw down field.

Once again see the USC. All but 4-5 throws were swings and wIthin 5 yards of the LOS. That’s been the playbook all season. Easy to have a crazy high completion rate when less than 20% of the passes are downfield/deep throws.

You obviously are a new fan to Tennessee if you think those other QB’s like Ainge, Clausen, Bray, and even Dobbs has massive down field accuracy issues.

Like always, your bias and agenda makes you look ridiculous. And while in one facet of the game JG < Clausen, there is definitely zero question about which QB is better.

Everything bolded is completely wrong.

Not one single UT qb has consistently thrown downfield passes for a significant part of their attempts. JG is comparable to any UT qb when it comes to balance of deep and short passes. The numbers reflect that.

The SC game was an outlier. Every single analyst and coach who talked about the game and even the announcers during the game talked about the short passing game being utilized to offset their strengths on defense.

That is the one game that had a ton of short passes. That was by design. That was the only game this year with that game plan. Most people had been calling for the short game before then to get the ball out. Helton made adjustments to short passes for THAT GAME.

Career ypa and yearly ypa.

.Ainge-Career 7.2 Fr-7.3 Sph- 5.1 Jr- 8.6 Sr-6.8
Clausen-Career 7.6 FR-7.6 Sph-8.4 Jr 7.4 SR 7.2
Bray-Career 8.1 Fr 8.3 Sph- 8.0 Jr- 8.0
Dobbs-Career 7.1 Fr-5.7 Sph-6.8 Jr-6.7 Sr-8.3

JG Career 7.8 Fr-7.2 Sph-8.2

So besides Bray the others you named had one season each matching this ypa. JG is a better downfield passer than Clausen and Dobbs for sure. Maybe even with Ainge. Bray would be the only one I say is a for sure better downfield passer and JG is still improving.


The numbers don't match you narrative. By the time all is said and done if JG maintians his play he will surpass a bunch of UT qbs in total numbers. He is already high in the categories that are averages and ratings.

 

[k-town_king]

Easy to be efficient when 80% of the passes aren’t downfield.

You obviously have trouble with stats. I posted a bunch of UT qbs with worse ypa and yards per game, so short throws, with more interceptions and less scores. He is a super efficient qb. Its just a fact.

 

[k-town_king]

Jeez man the same ish every single week with you.

JG is not perfect and yes his passes were underthrows and yes he did get the ball out slow in the 1st quarter and some in the second. He almost threw 3 picks that somehow weren’t picked.

So yes JG has things to work on he is not perfect. Good lord you definitely have an agenda.

JG made some good plays tonight but he also made some bad plays. That he can improve on.

Glad we won.

No freaking duh he wasnt perfect. No qb ever is. Yet somehow yall want JG to be. We all know Peyton has never thrown a bad pass or an interception.

The problem is trying downplay his performance. He had an underthrow, true. His "throws" weren't all underthrows like some of you are acting. So much agenda its sad.

 

[PulaskiVolFan]

I am NOT one of those guys who thinks Chryst should be the starter.....but I certainly don't think he will stay the starter next year....

It's just my personal opinion....based on nothing else but Shrout's reputation and some reports about him on here.

I certainly MAY be wrong... but we will NOT WIN the SEC East with JG as our starting QB--that's REALITY.

So Shrout, a kid that didn't even start for his HS team, is going to come in and replace one of the top5 returning QBs in the SEC? Lol, the top guys in the SEC are looking to play at the next level, not sit the bench to Sid Finch!

 

[PulaskiVolFan]

I am not seeing this in 'black and white' , rather in gray tones. Did JG have a great game today ? Heck yes . Does he have a lot to work on ? Without a doubt . Namely accuracy , pre-snap read, and releasing the ball on time ( which is also a symptom of a pre-snap read ) Did the team as a whole play better ? yes Better first and second down production by the running game = better JG. Could KC be the better QB . From his past performance , he appears to be more polished and possibly more ready . Does this mean that JG can't improve and be that guy ? Not at all.

The OP needs to see the world in more than 2 dimensions.

Just because a turd is polished doesn't mean he's more ready! Chryst is a backup level QB, he stunk at Stanford which is why he never earned his job back and once he got to Tn it was clear he doesn't have the arm strength to be effective long term in this league. Great kid I'm sure but a mid level guy at best at the QB position. Arkansas is the only team in the SEC he could possibly play for, maybe Ky but only because their guy is so bad.

 

[82_VOL_83]

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has been played. Imagine that.....

It is now and up until yesterday was their only real reasoning behind JG support. JG has my support after yesterday because he was a different QB than we have seen since AU. He actually looked more comfortable and played like the game was slower yesterday than he did at AU or any game that he has played in so far. But those that simply wanted to get KC a couple more meaningful series have always known this. His primary supporter here was the dead giveaway.

 

[82_VOL_83]

Only on VolNation can you find people that agree but they are still arguing. roflmao Some of you guys could find something bad about winning the lottery. There are 3 games left. KC is gone after that. He didn't win the starting job....period. End of the KC issue. JG is Pruitt's guy and he is the coach. JG has done something right or Pruitt would be switching the QB's out like he has the O Line. Is JG perfect? No, not by a long shot. But, he is a baller and a team leader if you listen to his teammates. Without a doubt if I have to get in a street fight I want him on my side. He is tough as nails and won't quit until it is over!

Fify

 

[82_VOL_83]

That line of thinking is faulty and silly. No disrespect to you. Football is a team sport that doesnt put enough emphasis on 1 player to warrant said player shouldering wins or losses. Its not basketball. QB play depends on many factors. OL play, WRs, TEs the OC. When the offense is on the field there are 10 other guys on the field besides the QB. If they dont do their jobs correctly then things go majorly wrong.

Watch how well Bama does if Tua goes out and Hurts gets hurt again. That will answer your QB question for you.

 

[82_VOL_83]

I am NOT one of those guys who thinks Chryst should be the starter.....but I certainly don't think he will stay the starter next year....

It's just my personal opinion....based on nothing else but Shrout's reputation and some reports about him on here.

I certainly MAY be wrong... but we will NOT WIN the SEC East with JG as our starting QB--that's REALITY.

I will agree if you add "as he is now". He certainly showed yesterday that he can play better than he has a majority of the season.

 

[sjt18]

Come on out of hiding and keep your schedule. It's not a football weekend without some griping about JG. I know he set a record tonight but don't let that dissuade you. Rise above it and tell us how we need Chryst to achieve success.

What do you think changed? The D played very well. JG pretty much did what he's been doing. It wasn't his improvements that made this game go as it did. The OL had their best game of the season. The RB's played well. He still has a long, long way to go.

 

[BeecherVol]

His performance at Alabama is the reason for my opinion. Chryst is an asset that should be used if JG is struggling.

Coaches dont yank starting QBs for bad games, much less bad halfs or series. You re telling your starter you dont have confidence in him if you do.

If you think JG should be the starter because hes our best option you dont pull him unless you re pretty certain your at least open to making a long term change.

That's not on Pruitts radar right now and honestly it shouldnt be. JG is the best option right now.

 

[BeecherVol]

I will agree if you add "as he is now". He certainly showed yesterday that he can play better than he has a majority of the season.

It's not ironic that JGs best games happen to be the OLs best games as well.

Hes not all SEC right now, may never be, but his the best option right now.

 

[butchna]

I am NOT one of those guys who thinks Chryst should be the starter.....but I certainly don't think he will stay the starter next year....

It's just my personal opinion....based on nothing else but Shrout's reputation and some reports about him on here.

I certainly MAY be wrong... but we will NOT WIN the SEC East with JG as our starting QB--that's REALITY.

Shoulda included that last part in your "It's just MY PERSONAL OPINION" caveat...because REALITY.

 

[Kinglberry]

What do you think changed? The D played very well. JG pretty much did what he's been doing. It wasn't his improvements that made this game go as it did. The OL had their best game of the season. The RB's played well. He still has a long, long way to go.

You made my point exactly, it wasn't him being outstanding above anything. It was the team around him playing like they should, in particular the Oline, like you pointed out. He hasn't been the reason for their problems, and Chryst was never going to come in and suddenly make them better blockers. Using his accomplishments in games, after which the dogs had been called off or the game was no longer in doubt changes playcalling across the board. Thereby making any comparison between the two QBs irrelevant. This team goes as the Oline goes, not the QB.

 

[Kinglberry]

OPs post is like the kid who got beat up at recess then watches the bully get beat up and puffs up his chest like he just won..

This post is like the talking heads who never got into any fight with the bully because they were bringing their change to him directly. Then sitting back in a chair to comment on others like they know something.

 

[Carl Pickens]

Guys JG is the future..... KC is gone after the season..... if KC isn't significantly better.... it's a no brained to develop your future.

 

[Kinglberry]

I am not seeing this in 'black and white' , rather in gray tones. Did JG have a great game today ? Heck yes . Does he have a lot to work on ? Without a doubt . Namely accuracy , pre-snap read, and releasing the ball on time ( which is also a symptom of a pre-snap read ) Did the team as a whole play better ? yes Better first and second down production by the running game = better JG. Could KC be the better QB . From his past performance , he appears to be more polished and possibly more ready . Does this mean that JG can't improve and be that guy ? Not at all.

The OP needs to see the world in more than 2 dimensions.

What dimensions need I see the world, I've never claimed JG God, nor Chryst Satan. It's not Armageddon. What the original post was about was the blame many have for JG when the losses occur, begging for Chryst, and then after a win they are no where. The reality, as stated many times around here, by me and others. He isn't the one allowing the defense through the line of scrimmage. That affects him, the running game, everything. No matter the QB, until it performs, no one performs. Regardless of QB. This win isn't on JG, it's on that line tonight and the defense. They both played way up. JG did what JG does given time, no more, no less. If Chryst is the QB instead, I believe the outcomes of every game would be virtually identical, within a margin of error. Pruitt picked JG, I'm simply supporting that choice, if he benches him, I will support the next guy.

 

[Orangeslice13]

I certainly MAY be wrong... but we will NOT WIN the SEC East with JG as our starting QB--that's REALITY.

Not so fast.
I was openly opposed to JG because of the way he acted last year. He didn’t play well either. This year is a different deal. He gets better every time he steps on the field. I don’t know where his ceiling is but he hasn’t stopped improving yet.

I think he’s tougher than a ball peen Hammer.
Plus he has the support of the head coach and the team.

We will see

 

[Volhoops]

UT won in spite of the mediocre play of JG. Encase no one has noticed because they have their head up JG's butt, if this defense can't hold the opposition to under 24 points UT will not get a win. JG has not led this team to more than 24 points this year. I think the one game they scored more than 24 points it was a defensive TD and not an offensive TD that put us over. So if Mizzouri wins and scores 27 points everybody will say the defense played bad.

 

[BloomuVol]

UT won in spite of the mediocre play of JG. Encase no one has noticed because they have their head up JG's butt, if this defense can't hold the opposition to under 24 points UT will not get a win. JG has not led this team to more than 24 points this year. I think the one game they scored more than 24 points it was a defensive TD and not an offensive TD that put us over. So if Mizzouri wins and scores 27 points everybody will say the defense played bad.

What part of team game do you not understand? Did JG fumble the ball twice in the second half ending those drives? No, so stop blaming one player for the failures of a team.