VOLINVONORE
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Any other judge on the Supreme Court could've disagreed, it's their actual job to render their differing opinions about these cases if they have one, but none did.Kavanaugh is an idiot. He claimed the NCAA's business model wouldn't fly at any other industry in America. That is completely stupid remark as colleges are educational institutions and not in any way a conventional private business. And yet judges seem to think that doesn't matter--which to me defies logic. The players are full-time students, not employees--and they're getting a free college education worth upwards of $250,000 over 4 years. So this notion that they are put upon is absurd. What's also absurd is the notion that all these people are getting rich on the backs of the players. Stupid. The vast majority of every major's football revenues is reinvested in the athletic department and finances all the non-revenue sports--15 or more of them. No conventional business invests money annually in ventures guaranteed to lose money--which is what non-rev sports. The whole sport has gone stupid and "woke"--and generally hate that term. By the logical of current legal decisions, high-schools will have to start paying their players, too, as many high schools make so money off of their football and basketball programs. And get NIL out of recruiting--it is corrupt and stupid and not what college is supposed to be about. One problem is that fans are crazy and can't relate to the educational side of college because they didn't go to college themselves.
Kavanaugh is an idiot. He claimed the NCAA's business model wouldn't fly at any other industry in America. That is completely stupid remark as colleges are educational institutions and not in any way a conventional private business. And yet judges seem to think that doesn't matter--which to me defies logic. The players are full-time students, not employees--and they're getting a free college education worth upwards of $250,000 over 4 years. So this notion that they are put upon is absurd. What's also absurd is the notion that all these people are getting rich on the backs of the players. Stupid. The vast majority of every major's football revenues is reinvested in the athletic department and finances all the non-revenue sports--15 or more of them. No conventional business invests money annually in ventures guaranteed to lose money--which is what non-rev sports. The whole sport has gone stupid and "woke"--and generally hate that term. By the logical of current legal decisions, high-schools will have to start paying their players, too, as many high schools make so money off of their football and basketball programs. And get NIL out of recruiting--it is corrupt and stupid and not what college is supposed to be about. One problem is that fans are crazy and can't relate to the educational side of college because they didn't go to college themselves.
Money they invest back into other sports to offer more the chance for an education. When universities start dropping other sports there will be different kind of law suits that happen.Kavanaugh actually has a strong legal position. Illegal restraint of trade applies to all sectors. The schools make tens of millions on football every year.l, on the athletes backs. The SCOTUS thing is the polar opposite of ",woke". It is pro business and pro capitalism.
Gone as we know it. Boxing was king for decades and they messed with it, now hardly any body watches. NASCAR was awesome for years then it changed, now no one gives a $h!t. Baseball is on a major downside. College football was awesome now not so much with NIL and transfer portal BS!You keep making this claim that college football will be gone in a few years? On what basis?
The "sit out a season if you transfer" rule has been "temporarily" waived by the NCAA after a judge in WV put a restraining order on them enforcing it. There's currently no restrictions on how many transfers a player can have nor do they have to sit out after transferring.Technically, it is not 'pay for play '. So therefore, they could still transfer, sit out a season, and still make NIL money. Right?
If NIL is used as it was intended, yes. A good way to tell if NIL is really the athlete obtaining it or the school obtaining it for them is to follow the money and endorsements when a player leaves.Technically, it is not 'pay for play '. So therefore, they could still transfer, sit out a season, and still make NIL money. Right?
The "sit out a season if you transfer" rule has been "temporarily" waived by the NCAA after a judge in WV put a restraining order on them enforcing it. There's currently no restrictions on how many transfers a player can have nor do they have to sit out after transferring.
With the VA and TN lawsuit, the NCAA has been pretty much prevented by another judge from policing how schools use NIL, so "pay to play" is pretty much acknowledged now.
I believe both of those lawsuits alege the NCAA is in violation of Antitrust Law, like Kavanaugh said they were in Alston.
The NCAA is ready to come off the grill. They're done.
The greatest CFB coach walked away because of this BS and now head coaches are bolting for coordinator jobs. What does that tell you? Get your head out of the dark space!
The NCAA gets sued because they are the controlling body, ie , they make the rules.The NCAA does not employ or play athletes. The NCAA does not provide the educational scholarships. It will not be them who is on the hook for the money. I do think the next step will be for someone to sue the SEC, the B1G, etc. as those are the entities that control the distribution of a lot of the money. In particular the SEC Network, ESPN et al.
Not only that but several other states AG's and the USDOJ have joined the WV suit.The NCAA gets sued because they are the controlling body, ie , they make the rules.
Many of those rules are illegal.
The concept is "joint-employer" which means: the athletes work for the schools but the NCAA makes the rules the schools follow. That's obviously true as we've seen with the NIL and transfer rules.
The NCAA stops illegally restricting competition via NIL and transfer restrictions and the conferences and schools start using them competitively ASAP. Obviously, the NCAA was restricting competition.
I'll completely agree those competition restrictions made college ball what we enjoyed in some ways: knowing players would likely be at the school most, if not all, of their college career and feeling like the players were "loyal" (actually restricted) and great players "coming to play for our school and the love of the Power T" (actually lots of dirty money offers.)
The money became too big. The schools had too much invested and at stake to be lousy programs, so they wanted the competitive restrictions removed.
Recall, TN and VA are suing about opening up NIL, not the players. WV sued about transfers. These lawsuits are coming, essentially, from the schools...... from the Attorney Generals of these states to help their schools be more competitive.
STILL........ people here blame the players. It makes no sense.
Wrong. It's just as good as ever. In some ways it's better. Now a handful of schools can't stockpile the best players with under the table money.Gone as we know it. Boxing was king for decades and they messed with it, now hardly any body watches. NASCAR was awesome for years then it changed, now no one gives a $h!t. Baseball is on a major downside. College football was awesome now not so much with NIL and transfer portal BS!
The Old NCAA rules as you put them, became an issue only when Ed O'Bannon realized that he could be paid for the use of his NIL. I'm sorry it's not federal law breaking what's happening in college athletics. If you ever read, then you would understand that the intent for NIL based on the Courts ruling of they said laws you are claiming broken was full cost of attendance at the school, Scholarships for Athletes, living expenses, and anything that the NCAA was not covering already. Football players were making on top of all that before this debacle an average prior to 2020 $30,000 to $40,000 each on top of all other expenses paid. O'Bannon also won from the Supreme Court $42.2 million for fees and costs as his case went nearly 10 years. He did not win all that money because of NIL itself! Read below the following based on the court ruling:Based on what, exactly?
The old NCAA rules that exploited the athletes and that were violations of federal law?
What you seem to have missed is what Justice Kavanaugh said in his opinion in Alston:
“Nowhere else in America can businesses get away with agreeing not to pay their workers a fair market rate on the theory that their product is defined by not paying their workers a fair market rate,” Kavanaugh wrote. “And under ordinary principles of antitrust law, it is not evident why college sports should be any different. The NCAA is not above the law.”
The NCAA business model of the unpaid student-athlete isn't legal. Kavanaugh wasn't mincing words. That's not the students, that's a Supreme Court Justice in a 9-0 decision, no dissenting opinions, essentially saying the players are employees and the NCAA needs to pay them.
Putting this "on the players" is incorrect. The NCAA is running a system which is in violation of Antitrust Law.