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#52
#52
SouthKnoxVOL said:
Yeah, a man that is a lawyer, coached in the NFL, coaches the university of Tennessee, played football at Virginia, has coached at LSU and La Tech, has made more money than we will ever see in our lifetime, and has a college degree. Yeah that really sounds like a pathetic loser to me.
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He said "pathetic loser record", he didn't call him a loser in life.

Try actually reading next time.
 
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#53
#53
Can we not just support this team and see how this season plays out? I agree Dooley may not be the guy. If not lets talk about this $hit in the post season. As for now, he's the coach. Get over it
 
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Mav145 said:
Yet, UT did know these things when they hired Dooley. You know what stat you are not putting in there? No one else wanted the job. I don't know why people can't understand that. We took the best coach that would take the job. Tradition be damned. That is the state of UT football three years ago. Who knows if he is the right guy for the job. He's our coach now.
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Kiffin's timing on leaving the program and a depleted roster had a lot to do with that I am sure. However I do think some fans are delusional on who and how fast we can hire a replacement.
 
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tvols75 said:
The timing was a big factor, but if the roster looked like any decent SEC roster then someone would've bit. The problem was, even Muschamp looked at the situation and laughed. Tells you a lot.
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Was it any if at all worse or better than the Bama roster that Saban took over?
 
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GahLee said:
Hard to do when the results are the same....every single week.
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This was the first time Bray had ever been in a potential game winning drive scenario, and he failed to execute 3 times. I guess that's Dooley's fault.

Like it or not, but this was a necessary step in growth.

In 5 games, they've gone from losing to Kentucky to almost beating #5.

You really expect these players to have the killer instinct when they haven't even been in this situation before?

Same old negas, posting the same old stuff ... Get these facts to Hart quick so we can hire Saban
 
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mtowntim said:
You're not going to get 300 "likes".

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Of course not, wasn't the intent. Maybe I should have posted in the OP that other fans think he's a bum and love having him here cause they can effectively mark it down as a "W". Seemed to work well for him.
 
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BearCat204 said:
Was it any if at all worse or better than the Bama roster that Saban took over?
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Come on, you really didn't ask this did you? Go look at what Shula left Saban and then look what Kiffin and Fulmer left Dooley. If you give me some time I will break the roster comparison later.
 
#60
#60
We should just fire everyone and hire all our new coaches from volnation. I mean you are a crappy coach if you can't take a team of freshmen, walk-ons, and terrible upper class-men and win titles. If you take two top ten teams to the brink and still lose you also suck. So yeah lets fire everyone, lose a recruiting class and see all of our best players stupidly go pro, other players transfer, the university owe Dooley and Co. millions while losing even more games next year. Then we can do it all over again. Things like this make me ASHAMED to be a UT fan and student. Yeah, losing does really really freaking suck and Dooley may not be the guy but firing him right now is just going to make things worse. Also if you call me a "moron" or "stupid" because of my opinion then you need to grow up and I bet you wouldn't say it to my face because your all basically cowards in my opinion.
 
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Majorvol23 said:
This was the first time Bray had ever been in a potential game winning drive scenario, and he failed to execute 3 times. I guess that's Dooley's fault.

Like it or not, but this was a necessary step in growth.

In 5 games, they've gone from losing to Kentucky to almost beating #5.

You really expect these players to have the killer instinct when they haven't even been in this situation before?

Same old negas, posting the same old stuff ... Get these facts to Hart quick so we can hire Saban
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The last game didn't change my opinion about him. I'm basing my opinion off of the whole picture, you may need to step back so you can see it all.
 
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GahLee said:
He said "pathetic loser record", he didn't call him a loser in life.

Try actually reading next time.
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Thank you. He is not a loser in life by any means. Only as a college football head coach. Statistics don't lie.
 
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Majorvol23 said:
This was the first time Bray had ever been in a potential game winning drive scenario, and he failed to execute 3 times. I guess that's Dooley's fault.

Like it or not, but this was a necessary step in growth.

In 5 games, they've gone from losing to Kentucky to almost beating #5.

You really expect these players to have the killer instinct when they haven't even been in this situation before?
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Yay. Moral victories.
 
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mreed90 said:
We should just fire everyone and hire all our new coaches from volnation. I mean you are a crappy coach if you can't take a team of freshmen, walk-ons, and terrible upper class-men and win titles. If you take two top ten teams to the brink and still lose you also suck. So yeah lets fire everyone, lose a recruiting class and see all of our best players stupidly go pro, other players transfer, the university owe Dooley and Co. millions while losing even more games next year. Then we can do it all over again. Things like this make me ASHAMED to be a UT fan and student.
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At least you are not being overdramatic and taking the extremes here.
 
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BearCat204 said:
Was it any if at all worse or better than the Bama roster that Saban took over?
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I'm not sure about that, but I do know that the SEC was not the juggernaut then that it is today, and the conference was great then. Today the conference is at an all time high and if people think that's an excuse they shouldn't. It's a fact. It does contribute to where we are, how we do and what are actually realities in our program.
 
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GahLee said:
Defending the following.

14-16 Record-A quarter into his third year, with the best win being over Cincinnati.

4-14 Record-In the SEC, best win is over a 6 win Vanderbilt team.

0-19-Career record against ranked opponets.

36-15-Average margin of defeat against ranked opponets.

6-Number of 30+ point losses while at UT. 5 from SEC opponets.

1-8-Road record in the SEC, lone win was against Vanderbilt.

26-The streak that ended against UK last year in what has to be the lowest of all lows.

If UT were looking to hire a new head coach and one of the candidates career numbers looked like this, would he be someone you would consider worthy for the position?
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In 2012? After 3 solid recruiting classes? After the rebuild of the Athletic Department? After completion of Neyland renovations and the new football training facility? After rebuilding the coaching staff?

Obvious answer at this point in time is no.

2010? Vastly different situation(which has been discussed ad nauseum)
 
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Majorvol23 said:
This was the first time Bray had ever been in a potential game winning drive scenario, and he failed to execute 3 times. I guess that's Dooley's fault.

Like it or not, but this was a necessary step in growth.

In 5 games, they've gone from losing to Kentucky to almost beating #5.

You really expect these players to have the killer instinct when they haven't even been in this situation before?

Same old negas, posting the same old stuff ... Get these facts to Hart quick so we can hire Saban
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I wonder why it is only the young kids who play for UT that need to be brought along slow and allowed to screw up for 2-3 years while we learn life lessons and grow as a team. Oddly enough I see freshman for other teams roasting our JRs. I see 2nd year kids playing for other teams making our 3rd year guys look silly. Our fans want to accept it as "growth" while other teams just expect a player on the field to do his job and they expect to win. This whole "we need time to rebuild" is just another BS excuse for not getting it done.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
I do not understand why som fans think all a sudden Dooley is going to become this great coach. He is not a winner and his resume shows that. Our recruiting is middle of the pack SEC at best. The man will not outcoach ANYONE. He can not beat Bama/UF/UGA for the top recruits, so are we just supposed to accept losing because he can't pull the top talent? "They have better players." Yes, and they always will until we have a coach who can fire up the fanbase, recruiting, and prove he can go toe to toe with the rest of the SEC. "We should be happy we kept it close" is something UT fans should never have to say or accept. JMO
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THIS !!!!!!!!! :good!: :clapping:

Glad to see at least one other person in our fan base gets it !!!
 
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mreed90 said:
and the overly negative group isn't?
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Not really.

I think most of us are just using history as our metric to determine how we see it playing out.

His history is in the OP, it looks awful and I'm not sure how it can get dramatically beter going forward.
 
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GahLee said:
If we fire Dooley, the world implodes. Who knew?
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So what you do think is going to happen? We are going to hire Gruden, get a top 5 recruiting class and suffer no attrition? Do some research on what happens during transition periods, like from Fulmer to Kiffin, and get back to me. World doesn't end but it can end up hurting.
 
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