Von Pearson Update

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KBVol said:
I think that "latest update" is from early last week. Could be wrong. But even then I was thinking wth?....what's taking so long to interview everybody? For crying out loud, get on with it so that all parties involved get the justice they deserve.
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GFW stated in the RF that it's believed he'll be cleared in the coming weeks, or at latest by Fall.
 
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kyoon2 said:
obviously you do not understand anything about the criminal system. beyond reasonable doubt is almost impossible to prove when it comes to he said she said without any witnesses or incriminating statements. even then, it's very difficult. That is why in sexual assault cases, evidence law allows previous convictions to prove propensity (which is generally forbidden in almost all cases.) But what do I know compared to some forum member? I just happen to go to one of top 20 law schools in the nation who worked in domestic violence and sexual assault last summer.
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Beautifully written, sir. In this thread, you have implied that usually suspected rapists go free that usually are guilty of committing rape (excellent prosecution or defense strategy)! Also, that you know more than other people on the forum because they are just forum members . I agree with you without hesitation. It is ridiculous to think that anyone on here could have possibly attended a top 10 law school in the nation and have actually practiced law in real life because they are wasting time by signing in to a college football team forum. Masterful conclusion! I would even go as far as saying that if you become a trial lawyer, you should inform the judge of your credentials immediately (as you did for us) to be in awe...obviously you would win every time!

All kidding aside, I do think there is probably some facts or truth backing up what you are trying to say, but it is just coming off like a giant douche bag squirting into the air because of the arrogance surrounding your argument.

For the record, I think you will be great lawyer.
 
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"In other off-the-field news, we have another update on the situation with suspended senior wide receiver Von Pearson as he’s trying to battle his way back into the program’s good graces. He had several obstacles to clear in order to do that, but so far, so good. And we have the latest on that." - Tennessee.247sports

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LT21 said:
"In other off-the-field news, we have another update on the situation with suspended senior wide receiver Von Pearson as he’s trying to battle his way back into the program’s good graces. He had several obstacles to clear in order to do that, but so far, so good. And we have the latest on that." - Tennessee.247sports

Team VIP Room: Update on Tennessee Vols' Von Pearson, injuries

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The latest update we have on Pearson’s off-the-field situation is simple. He has not been charged with anything at this point, but he hasn’t been exonerated, either. The investigation remains open, and there are at least a couple more witnesses the KPD would like to speak with before making any final decision. Pearson has retained the services of a legal defense team, but that doesn’t mean he’ll be charged with anything.

Obviously, there’s no reason to assume anything either way in a situation like this, but for now things continue to look better for Pearson than they did a few weeks ago. But that’s all we can report at this point.
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Even if the KPD don't charge Pearson with a crime, he could still be investigated by the University and/or sued by his accuser, and could be found liable in either case merely by a "preponderance of the evidence" (not "beyond a reasonable doubt," as required to establish guilt under criminal law). Jameis Winston, for example, was still investigated by his school and sued by his accuser after the police declined to press criminal charges against him.

The real question is whether Butch Jones would reinstate Pearson while a school investigation or civil lawsuit is still pending, much like FSU allowed Winston to keep playing.
 
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Titans4Vols said:
This isn't Law and Order, cases like this take longer than 12 hours to investigate, and this isn't the only case they have to investigate.
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They're also not searching for DB Cooper or Bigfoot....the event happened four weeks ago in a private residence. How many people were there who have knowledge of what happened?? Nobody expected this to be wrapped up in a day, but we're going on a month now with no charges even being brought. I certainly want them to be thorough and get it right for all parties involved, but they're not exactly splitting the atom here. Interview whoever needs to be interviewed and test/follow up on whatever evidenced needs to be tested/followed up on and move this case forward to charges or exoneration.
 
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Probably need to change thread title...if it was just updates there'd be 5 or 6 posts in the entire thread.
 
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KBVol said:
They're also not searching for DB Cooper or Bigfoot....the event happened four weeks ago in a private residence. How many people were there who have knowledge of what happened?? Nobody expected this to be wrapped up in a day, but we're going on a month now with no charges even being brought. I certainly want them to be thorough and get it right for all parties involved, but they're not exactly splitting the atom here. Interview whoever needs to be interviewed and test/follow up on whatever evidenced needs to be tested/followed up on and move this case forward to charges or exoneration.
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With respect to testing, Lab test results can take weeks and/or months to come back. There is often a huge backlog.
 
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AboveAllNations said:
Even if the KPD don't charge Pearson with a crime, he could still be investigated by the University and/or sued by his accuser, and could be found liable in either case merely by a "preponderance of the evidence" (not "beyond a reasonable doubt," as required to establish guilt under criminal law). Jameis Winston, for example, was still investigated by his school and sued by his accuser after the police declined to press criminal charges against him.

The real question is whether Butch Jones would reinstate Pearson while a school investigation or civil lawsuit is still pending, much like FSU allowed Winston to keep playing.
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If (IF mind you) the police declare him innocent/never bring charges, why does the school need to investigate?

First, schools need to stay out of these matters. They are criminal investigations and those in higher learning have NO place doing the duty of an officer of the law, especially given the propensity in the past with which schools have destroyed the lives of the accused without evidence.

Second, what could she sue him for? If the police declare him innocent, he should sue her for slander if anything.
 
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WilliamDuVOL said:
If (IF mind you) the police declare him innocent/never bring charges, why does the school need to investigate?

First, schools need to stay out of these matters. They are criminal investigations and those in higher learning have NO place doing the duty of an officer of the law, especially given the propensity in the past with which schools have destroyed the lives of the accused without evidence.

Second, what could she sue him for? If the police declare him innocent, he should sue her for slander if anything.
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Well, first, police never declare anyone innocent (or guilty). They don't have that authority. It's not their job. Their role is simply to gather evidence for use in court so that a judge or jury can decide innocence vs guilt...if the prosecuting attorney determines the police have found enough evidence to be going on with, and can then convince a grand jury of the same.

Second, universities and other institutions are free to have honor codes and other codes of conduct above and beyond what's covered by US and state criminal law. And are free to investigate possible violations of their code. There's nothing at all unusual about that.

And third, anyone can sue anyone in civil court for just about any real or perceived tort. Doesn't even have to be monetary in nature, though monetary penalties are often how the cases are resolved. So VP's accuser could certainly take him to civil court for any of a number of reasons.
 
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I thought when you are arrested you are charged with a crime at that point. I think we are waiting to see if he will be brought before a Grand Jury and whether or not he will receive an indictment with formal charges. I don't know for sure though. I tend to stay on the side of the law as to not to have to worry about these things.
 
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PrattvilleVol said:
I thought when you are arrested you are charged with a crime at that point. I think we are waiting to see if he will be brought before a Grand Jury and whether or not he will receive an indictment with formal charges. I don't know for sure though. I tend to stay on the side of the law as to not to have to worry about these things.
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I haven't read anything that said VP was arrested or charged.
 
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Volview said:
I haven't read anything that said VP was arrested or charged.
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That's what is so baffling about this whole thing. Just because somebody makes an accusation shouldn't cost you your career until at least an arrest is made. Truly it shouldn't be until a conviction.
 
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PrattvilleVol said:
That's what is so baffling about this whole thing. Just because somebody makes an accusation shouldn't cost you your career until at least an arrest is made. Truly it shouldn't be until a conviction.
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A lot people are going to say that since Jameis Winston got to play while under suspicion of sexual assault, then Von should too.

We will take a hit from a PR standpoint, but there's always a price to pay.
 
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PrattvilleVol said:
That's what is so baffling about this whole thing. Just because somebody makes an accusation shouldn't cost you your career until at least an arrest is made. Truly it shouldn't be until a conviction.
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Accusation should not equal suspension. It has to be a fair minded approach to each situation.
 
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