Von Pearson Update

[FayetteVol1]

Vince Carilli is the Vice Chancellor that appears to be blocking Von from getting back in school. His email/phone are available in the UT directory. I sent him a friendly note. If it appears Von is innocent they need to at least let him get back in school.

 

[zqvol]

With a negative rape kit, can you still have a sexual battery case?

I am afraid UT might be in a double jeopardy situation here. They could get sued by the player if not allowed to play and hit up for an EEOC infraction and significant fines if he is allowed to play.

There has to be more information here that is not being discussed. I wonder if there was some kind of intermediary that was involved that could implicate either the university or athletic department. That would make for a very tense situation all around.

There is no such thing as a negative rape kit. There may be a lack of findings but from the accused perspective the best it shows is that there is no biological evidence and no sign of trauma. It doesn't mean that an act did not occur.

 

[zqvol]

Good point.

My concern is over the defense sharing medical records with the University. As an attorney, I wouldn't do that absent written consent from the alleged Victim or her attorney, or unless the University had subpoenaed the records (that is if the University's judicial board has subpoena power, which I kind of doubt).

Perhaps Von's attorney simply "told" the University that the results came back negative, rather than actually sharing the physical medical results.

I agree, and in fact it is probably a violation of the Ethics Rules, but what is even more interesting is how did the accused get the results of the test. As you are well aware the police and DA do not share evidence prior to the filing of a charge, or unless ordered to do so by the court.

 

[Kristy*]

There is no such thing as a negative rape kit. There may be a lack of findings but from the accused perspective the best it shows is that there is no biological evidence and no sign of trauma. It doesn't mean that an act did not occur.

That does mean the rape kit was negative. It can be positive, negative, or inconclusive. It just doesn't always mean nothing happened if the kit is negative.

 

[wildorange]

There is a way to make this simpler for you. Just assume Von will not be playing this season until you hear differently.

This is a message board, you have a problem with my post don't read em. I am excited about the season, and I don't need any situation made simpler for me. The length of this investigation seems to be moving at a turtle pace, I'm just voicing my thoughts. If it bothers you just ignore my post. I haven't been following it everyday and haven't posted about it until the last couple of days. If he is guilty they should be able to charge by now, this has taken way too long. Most cases don't take this long to charge or not charge. Just sayin. GBO!!!

 

[KBVol]

There is no such thing as a negative rape kit. There may be a lack of findings but from the accused perspective the best it shows is that there is no biological evidence and no sign of trauma. It doesn't mean that an act did not occur.

With an absolute lack of evidence from the rapekit, it damn well better mean an act didn't occur in the eyes of the law or we have a serious problem with our system of justice.

 

[RiseToTheTop]

With an absolute lack of evidence from the rapekit, it damn well better mean an act didn't occur in the eyes of the law or we have a serious problem with our system of justice.

lol exactly

 

[RiseToTheTop]

evidence favoring von more and more. Starting to look like the University is incompetent too. The whole thing with Williams being enrolled and Von banned is just absurd.

 

[zqvol]

There is absolutely no precedent for suspending someone from a public institution for a legal investigation in which there is no physical evidence. Getting reinstated to the football team is another matter. Hopefully the DA will make a decision soon with all the information they have.

You are flat out wrong. He is suspended most likely because of Title IX. There has been a hearing on the issue. There is no need for physical evidence and in fact there would probably not be any physical evidence. The university is under an obligation to provide a safe learning environment and if the accuser convinces the hearing board that they do not feel safe, the university ios perfectly within its rights to preclude a student from campus for all purposes.

 

[RiseToTheTop]

You are flat out wrong. He is suspended most likely because of Title IX. There has been a hearing on the issue. There is no need for physical evidence and in fact there would probably not be any physical evidence. The university is under an obligation to provide a safe learning environment and if the accuser convinces the hearing board that they do not feel safe, the university ios perfectly within its rights to preclude a student from campus for all purposes.

this whole deal is a joke honestly.

 

[zqvol]

I can be more than rape. I can be sexual assault which a rape kit can have nothing to do with.

He could be suspended from school for sending the accuser or others texts or images, no one knows why he is not allowed in school, AND no one seems to recognize that fact.

 

[onevol74]

this whole deal is a joke honestly.

No, it is called "Political Correctness."

 

[Aesius]

Good grief. This thread is just frustrating to read. So much back and forth.

 

[KBVol]

You are flat out wrong. He is suspended most likely because of Title IX. There has been a hearing on the issue. There is no need for physical evidence and in fact there would probably not be any physical evidence. The university is under an obligation to provide a safe learning environment and if the accuser convinces the hearing board that they do not feel safe, the university ios perfectly within its rights to preclude a student from campus for all purposes.

So the accuser, with zero evidence, can convince the hearing board that Von prevents her from having a safe learning environment, and he's just out of luck? No school, no team, no potential career? Just all gone? That's an incredibly low bar she would have to step over to absolutely ruin this kid's life. I'm not questioning your information, just saying that if that's the case, the procedure/system needs a dramatic overhauling ASAP.

 

[Coug]

This attitude is what Title IX is designed to prevent. This creates a hostile environment and is why Title IX exists.

Well, it didn't work. It doesn't make a bit of difference either since he's not playing this year anyway. A case like this shouldn't have been dragged out this long and everyone knows it including his lawyer. Every bit of evidence and things we've learned all point to Von being innocent and just being screwed. Title IX isn't going to stop that lying whore from getting the karma that's coming to her. You can toss out Title IX comments all you want but it's not going to change a damn thing.

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

There is no such thing as a negative rape kit. There may be a lack of findings but from the accused perspective the best it shows is that there is no biological evidence and no sign of trauma. It doesn't mean that an act did not occur.

that means the rape kit is negative.

 

[Skullbone]

Look at it on the bright side. Maybe Von will just get one year better at football while saving a year of eligibility. It could happen.

 

[newyorkvol]

Look at it on the bright side. Maybe Von will just get one year better at football while saving a year of eligibility. It could happen.

He's draft eligible after this year regardless of whether he plays or not. He'd likely be gone to the NFL if he played, and he'll likely go if he doesn't play.

 

[orangebloodgmc]

And where did Carilli go to school? I'm betting Syracuse or Michigan.

 

[vol66]

And where did Carilli go to school? I'm betting Syracuse or Michigan.

Carilli has a doctorate in higher education from Southern Illinois University, a master’s degree in higher education from Kutztown University, and a bachelor’s degree in secondary education—biology from East Stroudsburg University.

 

[orangebloodgmc]

Carilli has a doctorate in higher education from Southern Illinois University, a master’s degree in higher education from Kutztown University, and a bachelor’s degree in secondary education—biology from East Stroudsburg University.

A'ight, I might let him slide this time.

 

[Skullbone]

He's draft eligible after this year regardless of whether he plays or not. He'd likely be gone to the NFL if he played, and he'll likely go if he doesn't play.

Sure, he could make the NFL this year as is, or he could play another year of college and get drafted for potentially millions of dollars more.

 

[governmentmule]

Well, it didn't work. It doesn't make a bit of difference either since he's not playing this year anyway. A case like this shouldn't have been dragged out this long and everyone knows it including his lawyer. Every bit of evidence and things we've learned all point to Von being innocent and just being screwed. Title IX isn't going to stop that lying whore from getting the karma that's coming to her. You can toss out Title IX comments all you want but it's not going to change a damn thing.

the wheels of justice turn at a very slow rate,to be honest,I don't know very much about Mr Von Pearson situation,just what I have read here,there is no need to call that young woman that,since we don't know exactly what has happened

I'm just guessing,but there has to be something that we the public don't know,that is slowing things down,or this would have done been over with or a court date set,but this is just my opinion,which I know isn't worth much

 

[vol66]

Nah, no slide...his past decisions are at least a small part of why the OCR is investigating and probably a big part of why Pearson is suspended.

 

[ManchesterV]

this whole deal is a joke honestly.

If the defense Attorney feels good about providing the university with the rape kit results, he obviously feels good about the evidence or lack thereof. With other students enrolled while actually being CHARGED, this looks like a big problem to me. If VP ends up being cleared and I am his lawyer, I am suing the pants off the university. I hope that doesn't happen because it will bring unwanted attention to UT. But, unless they can come up with something (like charges) to make this stick, they deserve it. A classic case of succumbing to our over reactive society. We still truly don't know the story. But, if he is innocent, they have ruined his career and chances for a NFL opportunity. Do you really think he is just gonna say "no worries" and move on? If he does, God bless him.