Vaccine or not?

[hog88]

What I don't understand is the overall lack of concern for the greater good by those who reject the vaccine based on internet "research" or an unsubstantiated claim. Yeah, some folks have serious side effects to the vaccine. The number is miniscule by comparison to the number of folks who have serious effects from covid. Yeah some folks have died as a result of complications associated with the vaccine. The number of deaths from covid is astronomical. "But they don't know what is in it". Yeah and you probably don't know what's in that fried chicken you got from the gas station either. You probably don't know what is in your prescription or OTC meds either.

Folks, I want my life back as much as anyone. The greater good has to come into play. My individual freedom is smaller than the greater good. My (or your) freedoms and liberties end where someone else's begins. If everyone truly wants the pandemic to end, we need as many people vaccinated as quickly as possible. When the virus can't find a new host, it dies out. Pretty simple. The bigger problem is not the pandemic nor the vaccine, it is the enormous divide that all of it has caused. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one.

"For the greater good" is always a terrible argument.

 

[VolStrom]

What I don't understand is the overall lack of concern for the greater good by those who reject the vaccine based on internet "research" or an unsubstantiated claim. Yeah, some folks have serious side effects to the vaccine. The number is miniscule by comparison to the number of folks who have serious effects from covid. Yeah some folks have died as a result of complications associated with the vaccine. The number of deaths from covid is astronomical. "But they don't know what is in it". Yeah and you probably don't know what's in that fried chicken you got from the gas station either. You probably don't know what is in your prescription or OTC meds either.

Folks, I want my life back as much as anyone. The greater good has to come into play. My individual freedom is smaller than the greater good. My (or your) freedoms and liberties end where someone else's begins. If everyone truly wants the pandemic to end, we need as many people vaccinated as quickly as possible. When the virus can't find a new host, it dies out. Pretty simple. The bigger problem is not the pandemic nor the vaccine, it is the enormous divide that all of it has caused. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one.

Have you seen the vaccination rate for Haiti? It's 0.2% fully vaccinated, and yet we let 10s of thousands of Haitians into our country without a vaccination mandate and dispersed them to every state in the country. Sorry, but until our government makes illegal immigrants get a vaccination shot, your argument doesn't hold any water.

 

[MAD]

What I don't understand is the overall lack of concern for the greater good by those who reject the vaccine based on internet "research" or an unsubstantiated claim. Yeah, some folks have serious side effects to the vaccine. The number is miniscule by comparison to the number of folks who have serious effects from covid. Yeah some folks have died as a result of complications associated with the vaccine. The number of deaths from covid is astronomical. "But they don't know what is in it". Yeah and you probably don't know what's in that fried chicken you got from the gas station either. You probably don't know what is in your prescription or OTC meds either.

Folks, I want my life back as much as anyone. The greater good has to come into play. My individual freedom is smaller than the greater good. My (or your) freedoms and liberties end where someone else's begins. If everyone truly wants the pandemic to end, we need as many people vaccinated as quickly as possible. When the virus can't find a new host, it dies out. Pretty simple. The bigger problem is not the pandemic nor the vaccine, it is the enormous divide that all of it has caused. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one.

Respect…

 

[MAD]

Have you seen the vaccination rate for Haiti? It's 0.2% fully vaccinated, and yet we let 10s of thousands of Haitians into our country without a vaccination mandate and dispersed them to every state in the country. Sorry, but until our government makes illegal immigrants get a vaccination shot, your argument doesn't hold any water.

What I hear you saying is, 120 million unvaccinated Americans are not a problem but 10’s of thousands of unvaccinated Haitians are.
Somebody was not good at the maths.

 

[LouderVol]

What I don't understand is the overall lack of concern for the greater good by those who reject the vaccine based on internet "research" or an unsubstantiated claim. Yeah, some folks have serious side effects to the vaccine. The number is miniscule by comparison to the number of folks who have serious effects from covid. Yeah some folks have died as a result of complications associated with the vaccine. The number of deaths from covid is astronomical. "But they don't know what is in it". Yeah and you probably don't know what's in that fried chicken you got from the gas station either. You probably don't know what is in your prescription or OTC meds either.

Folks, I want my life back as much as anyone. The greater good has to come into play. My individual freedom is smaller than the greater good. My (or your) freedoms and liberties end where someone else's begins. If everyone truly wants the pandemic to end, we need as many people vaccinated as quickly as possible. When the virus can't find a new host, it dies out. Pretty simple. The bigger problem is not the pandemic nor the vaccine, it is the enormous divide that all of it has caused. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one.

Peoples definition of greater good is different. Simple as that.

Individual freedom over societal freedom, or societal freedom over individual freedom.

If you will excuse the example, would you rather be a healthy slave, or a sick free man? Extreme and not entirely applicable. But for some group this is a step too far towards slavery/Holocaust. Again those are the extreme outliers we arent anywhere close to. But its a step too far regardless on where we are on that continuum.

 

[lostsheep]

Peoples definition of greater good is different. Simple as that.

Individual freedom over societal freedom, or societal freedom over individual freedom.

If you will excuse the example, would you rather be a healthy slave, or a sick free man? Extreme and not entirely applicable. But for some group this is a step too far towards slavery/Holocaust. Again those are the extreme outliers we arent anywhere close to. But its a step too far regardless on where we are on that continuum.

Ignorant to compare slavery or the Holocaust to what's currently going on. Whether it's a "step too far" on the continuum is pure subjectivity.

 

[jcvols24]

By now you've heard this one because it's ridiculous. She was a nurse who died of COVID and told her family not to get vaccinated while she was taking her last breaths. Just ridiculous. Again, what kind of schooling do these nurses receive?

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Daryl Rise said his older sister Natalie Rise was a victim of disinformation.

Its obvious you are using that stupid sorrynonvaxxers website, and that is sad. The site is am absolute disgrace to humanity in it's intent and with the comments under each person. Every single person that comments there needs to either change their ways or else hope heaven isn't real.

Biden ran on unity and instead has promoted a new form of division to go with any we currently deal with.

Any links ridiculing the death of a person should be deleted immediately and that poster banned from posting for a set time in my opinion. There is zero need for this.

 

[Jxn Vol]

Its obvious you are using that stupid sorrynonvaxxers website, and that is sad. The site is am absolute disgrace to humanity in it's intent and with the comments under each person. Every single person that comments there needs to either change their ways or else hope heaven isn't real.

Biden ran on unity and instead has promoted a new form of division to go with any we currently deal with.

Any links ridiculing the death of a person should be deleted immediately and that poster banned from posting for a set time in my opinion. There is zero need for this.

Just think about how sorry of a human spends time finding these and the posting about it. It’s extremely delusional and sickening. The more I live my life off of social media the more I realize how sorry some folks are that do.

 

[MAD]

Its obvious you are using that stupid sorrynonvaxxers website, and that is sad. The site is am absolute disgrace to humanity in it's intent and with the comments under each person. Every single person that comments there needs to either change their ways or else hope heaven isn't real.

Biden ran on unity and instead has promoted a new form of division to go with any we currently deal with.

Any links ridiculing the death of a person should be deleted immediately and that poster banned from posting for a set time in my opinion. There is zero need for this.

Unvaccinated are dying needlessly and the amount of misinformation posted on this site is not a problem for you. But when someone dies because of the misinformation and they have regrets and I post about it, that you have a problem You don’t have an agenda, do you?

 

[Obsessed]

Unvaccinated are dying needlessly and the amount of misinformation posted on this site is not a problem for you. But when someone dies because of the misinformation and they have regrets and I post about it, that you have a problem You don’t have an agenda, do you?

Dying huh?

Some of y’all will believe anything.

 

[Rishvol]

What I don't understand is the overall lack of concern for the greater good by those who reject the vaccine based on internet "research" or an unsubstantiated claim. Yeah, some folks have serious side effects to the vaccine. The number is miniscule by comparison to the number of folks who have serious effects from covid. Yeah some folks have died as a result of complications associated with the vaccine. The number of deaths from covid is astronomical. "But they don't know what is in it". Yeah and you probably don't know what's in that fried chicken you got from the gas station either. You probably don't know what is in your prescription or OTC meds either.

Folks, I want my life back as much as anyone. The greater good has to come into play. My individual freedom is smaller than the greater good. My (or your) freedoms and liberties end where someone else's begins. If everyone truly wants the pandemic to end, we need as many people vaccinated as quickly as possible. When the virus can't find a new host, it dies out. Pretty simple. The bigger problem is not the pandemic nor the vaccine, it is the enormous divide that all of it has caused. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one.

 

[MAD]

Just think about how sorry of a human spends time finding these and the posting about it. It’s extremely delusional and sickening. The more I live my life off of social media the more I realize how sorry some folks are that do.

Yet you post on an internet message board complaining? And only when the views don’t line up with your beliefs…

 

[Carp]

Best way to get everyone vaxed? Have Trump buy Moderna or Pfizer and call it the Trump shot. Then have him go on TV asking all his supporters to get it. There will be lines down the street trying to get the vaccine then.

 

[Cdywolfe]

Unvaccinated are dying needlessly and the amount of misinformation posted on this site is not a problem for you. But when someone dies because of the misinformation and they have regrets and I post about it, that you have a problem You don’t have an agenda, do you?

He has a problem with you celebrating when people die. It’s disgusting and so are you

 

[Obsessed]

Best way to get everyone vaxed? Have Trump buy Moderna or Pfizer and call it the Trump shot. Then have him go on TV asking all his supporters to get it. There will be lines down the street trying to get the vaccine then.

See. Folks like you think this about politics. It’s not. The sooner you accept that, the better off you will be.

 

[MAD]

He has a problem with you celebrating when people die. It’s disgusting and so are you

I’m not celebrating, you probably didn’t even read that the brother stated she was a victim of disinformation.
It’s disgusting that you don’t care about thousands of people that are dying needlessly by misinformation and disinformation and making decisions based on politics, fine call me disgusting.

 

[hog88]

Didn't this summers surge coincide with the mass of illegal immigrants flooding over the border?

 

[VolStrom]

Unvaccinated are dying needlessly and the amount of misinformation posted on this site is not a problem for you. But when someone dies because of the misinformation and they have regrets and I post about it, that you have a problem You don’t have an agenda, do you?

So why are you worried about the conservatives that don't want a jab? Have you seen the vaxx rate in the southern hemisphere? Maybe we should send some vaccinations to South America and Africa?

 

[VolStrom]

Didn't this summers surge coincide with the mass of illegal immigrants flooding over the border?

No, no, no. It was all about the 120 million anti vaxxers in the US that hate the rest of us.

 

[kiddiedoc]

What I don't understand is the overall lack of concern for the greater good by those who reject the vaccine based on internet "research" or an unsubstantiated claim. Yeah, some folks have serious side effects to the vaccine. The number is miniscule by comparison to the number of folks who have serious effects from covid. Yeah some folks have died as a result of complications associated with the vaccine. The number of deaths from covid is astronomical. "But they don't know what is in it". Yeah and you probably don't know what's in that fried chicken you got from the gas station either. You probably don't know what is in your prescription or OTC meds either.

Folks, I want my life back as much as anyone. The greater good has to come into play. My individual freedom is smaller than the greater good. My (or your) freedoms and liberties end where someone else's begins. If everyone truly wants the pandemic to end, we need as many people vaccinated as quickly as possible. When the virus can't find a new host, it dies out. Pretty simple. The bigger problem is not the pandemic nor the vaccine, it is the enormous divide that all of it has caused. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one.

Without being argumentative, are you of the impression that vaccinated people are not contracting or spreading the virus?

 

[Cdywolfe]

I’m not celebrating, you probably didn’t even read that the brother stated she was a victim of disinformation.
It’s disgusting that you don’t care about thousands of people that are dying needlessly by misinformation and disinformation and making decisions based on politics, fine call me disgusting.

I read that… I also read where it said too young to die, too stupid to live. You’re not convincing anybody of anything other than your a terrible human being who likes to insult the dead and celebrate their deaths.

 

[MAD]

Without being argumentative, are you of the impression that vaccinated people are not contracting or spreading the virus?

Something that I’m noticing is that people don’t understand the huge difference in chances of getting and dying from Covid when you are vaccinated compared to unvaccinated. They say, if you can get it and spread it, what’s the point of the vaccine. This is unbelievably dangerous.
Actual chances of getting and or dying from Covid when you are vaccinated or unvaccinated…

Unvaccinated 1 in 10 chance of contracting Covid
Unvaccinated 1 in 451 chance of dying from Covid once you contracted it.

Vaccinated 1 in 12,610 chance of contracting Covid.
Vaccinated 1 in 89000 chance of dying from Covid if you contract it.

So what you are saying as someone who claims to be a doctor is dangerous.

 

[MAD]

I read that… I also read where it said too young to die, too stupid to live. You’re not convincing anybody of anything other than your a terrible human being who likes to insult the dead and celebrate their deaths.

I’m sorry for including that part in the post, you are right.

 

[C-south]

What I don't understand is the overall lack of concern for the greater good by those who reject the vaccine based on internet "research" or an unsubstantiated claim. Yeah, some folks have serious side effects to the vaccine. The number is miniscule by comparison to the number of folks who have serious effects from covid. Yeah some folks have died as a result of complications associated with the vaccine. The number of deaths from covid is astronomical. "But they don't know what is in it". Yeah and you probably don't know what's in that fried chicken you got from the gas station either. You probably don't know what is in your prescription or OTC meds either.

Folks, I want my life back as much as anyone. The greater good has to come into play. My individual freedom is smaller than the greater good. My (or your) freedoms and liberties end where someone else's begins. If everyone truly wants the pandemic to end, we need as many people vaccinated as quickly as possible. When the virus can't find a new host, it dies out. Pretty simple. The bigger problem is not the pandemic nor the vaccine, it is the enormous divide that all of it has caused. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one.

You want your life back? Where the hell do you live? I’ve been living my life almost exactly like I was before, during, and in the current “pandemic”. Restaurants closed for a little while and occasionally I’d have to wear a mask but I’m living my life. I had the rona late last year and it m not getting a vaccine. If the vaccine works that should be all the people who feel vulnerable need. End of story.

 

[Carp]

See. Folks like you think this about politics. It’s not. The sooner you accept that, the better off you will be.

Lol. Sure thing chief.