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sjt18 said:
You ARE a fundamentally dishonest person. You just compared US flu related deaths to Chinese deaths from a newly discovered virus.

Not surprising that you would distort these "stats" too. In 1,300+ US confirmed cases, 38 people have died. Thirty of those fatalities occurred in Washington State. At least 26 of those were in a single nursing home. Most if not all of those victims were over 70... which pretty much disproves the conclusion you draw from this graph.
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The numbers back up what I say. It is MUCH DEADLIER than the flu.

You are wrong about everything else you post. This is not a shock.


Rickyvol77 said:
Neither. I’m an executive manager. We get weekly (now biweekly) meetings with the Regional Health Coordinators and the CDC so I’m well aware of what’s going on with this issue.
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I figured so.
 
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Illinoisvolfan2 said:
That’s true. More people get shot over a weekend than have been diagnosed with the virus
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There's a cure for guns. There's a cure for violent culture.

There's no cure for this virus yet...

Even the people that recover it from can contract it AGAIN.

This is a very serious problem.
 
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Unconditional Surrender said:
"It's only old people dying. Let's go on with our lives."
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VN right now
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I have a little experience working in a level P2 and P3 Virology laboratory and the only viruses I'm scared of are Marburg, Ebola and the other hemorrhagic fever viruses. One should always practice good hygiene because just about any virus can cause death when you add complicating factors. There is a very fine balance between reaction and over-reaction. I will continue going about my normal day to day life.

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k-town_king said:
The numbers back up what I say. It is MUCH DEADLIER than the flu.
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It may or may not be by the time we get a large enough data set to actually make the comparison. But the numbers you posted do NOT prove that point. On one side you posted US flu numbers from the CDC. On the other side you posted numbers from the Chinese government concerning a new virus that broke out in a very densely populated city. Those numbers do not prove that a disease that is known and has well established treatment measures is less deadly than a new disease.

The death totals are a direct result of where the disease first broke out... dense population... relatively poor health care and health awareness.

But... you are an "expert" in this kind of "reasoning". Facts don't have to prove what you say... they only have to have numbers and when taken out of context they cannot disprove your narrative.

You are wrong about everything else you post. This is not a shock.
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You... are a fundamentally dishonest person. You are dishonest about so many things... your abuse of facts here come as no surprise.

But by all means... climb into your hole and act as if the world is ending over a virus that is likely NOT worse than several others over the last 20 years.
 
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Let me drop another truth bomb here. This is a truth that almost no one, short of macro-economists and those who pay attention in economics class, knows.

People will literally DIE because March Madness is played to empty stadiums. People will DIE because the NBA season is cancelled.

"You heartless $%&@#'s, how many people have to die so you can watch your little game. It's just a game!!!!"

Many businesses in these cities rely on income from attendees at these events. Often, they make enough during this period to cover their losses throughout the rest of the year. Many businesses will shut down because of this. Billions in economic activity are now lost. People will lose their jobs. Kids will go hungry. Many people will no longer have health insurance because of it. Some will be unable to afford healthy food any longer, so they will opt for the $5 hot and ready. Heart attacks will occur that previously would have been avoided or detected. Pneumonia will sit in until it's too late because I can't afford the copay and "it's just a cough anyway."

Do you understand? It's not a choice between only entertainment or death. Economies matter.
I've seen stated in this very thread, "How many have to die before you're willing to shut it all down?" I ask, how many are you willing to kill with your shutdown because some folks are panicking?
 
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sjt18 said:
Again a stupid non sequitur from you....
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I forget that you are probably a 80 year old who doesn't get the reference.

With your advanced memory loss and confusion I assume you are getting up there. I should actually take it easy on you more in light of your "issues."
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Yea just like you figured the 12 reported cases in knox Co have all been tested with no issues.
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I have a daughter near Nashville who works in the health care field. I have older family members. This isn't serious in the area right now but has the POTENTIAL to cause a lot of problems. It is much worse than the flu.
 
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k-town_king said:
I forget that you are probably a 80 year old who doesn't get the reference.
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so on the one hand... you attack others for neglecting old people... then on the other you post this? You are a fundamentally dishonest person.

With your advanced memory loss and confusion I assume you are getting up there. I should actually take it easy on you more in light of your "issues."
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Well... if this were true how pathetic would that make you? I expose your non-sense constantly here.... so if I can do that with "memory loss and confusion" then what does that say about you?
 
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Aerie Vol said:
Let me drop another truth bomb here. This is a truth that almost no one, short of macro-economists and those who pay attention in economics class, knows.

People will literally DIE because March Madness is played to empty stadiums. People will DIE because the NBA season is cancelled.

"You heartless $%&@#'s, how many people have to die so you can watch your little game. It's just a game!!!!"

Many businesses in these cities rely on income from attendees at these events. Often, they make enough during this period to cover their losses throughout the rest of the year. Many businesses will shut down because of this. Billions in economic activity are now lost. People will lose their jobs. Kids will go hungry. Many people will no longer have health insurance because of it. Some will be unable to afford healthy food any longer, so they will opt for the $5 hot and ready. Heart attacks will occur that previously would have been avoided or detected. Pneumonia will sit in until it's too late because I can't afford the copay and "it's just a cough anyway."

Do you understand? It's not a choice between only entertainment or death. Economies matter.
I've seen stated in this very thread, "How many have to die before you're willing to shut it all down?" I ask, how many are you willing to kill with your shutdown because some folks are panicking?
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Assuming k-town actually has the courage to read your post... his head is going to explode. Hats off to you sir.
 
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This virus will get worse before it gets better. If people don't take action now to help stop the spread, it'll get much worse. No need to panic, but be aware of the possibilities. I take a flu shot now, I don't have a coronavirus shot to take.
 
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If we use Hubei province as our study (since it is the largest dataset that is mature enough to extrapolate from), we see that out of a population of 58.5 million, 67,781 have been confirmed infected, putting the infection rate at about 0.12%. If we expand that out to 300 million to compare to the US (I know, it's a ballpark figure, not exact), you get an estimate of 347,595 confirmed cases for the U.S.

Now, of those 67,781 confirmed cases, 14,407 are still active, so we have to throw those out of the the equation, since the outcome isn't known. That leaves us with 53,374 test cases. Of those 53,374, 3056 died. That gives us a 5.73% mortality rate. That's a scary number, much worse than the estimated 3.4%. If we expound that out to the 347,595 in the US estimation, we are looking at an estimate of 19,902 deaths in the U.S. Keep in mind that the 5.73% mortality rate for Hubei is an estimate for known cases, and could be plus or minus 1.22% as an error rate. So taking the error rate into account, we are looking at most at something like 24,132 U.S. deaths ballpark.

Not trying to minimize or sensationalize either way. Just trying to give a good set of realistic numbers on the current datasets that are significant enough to look at given the knowns.
 
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