Update on new strength coach

[Ari Silverstein]

Originally Posted by Ari Silverstein
The 500 lb IRM BP is most obtainable v.s a 45" vertical and a sub 10 100 mtr because genetics play the least importance, the skill level is significantly less in the BP and their are more Caucasian athletes in the potential mix for the 1RM BP.Facts, bro, facts. Anyone who thinks the white man can keep pace with the black man in the sports where explosive speed-strength dominates is a arseclown.
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Then paint a red smiley face on my rearend because that is junk science.

Paint your own butt and while you are at it, wake up to the real world of football, basketball and track.:crazy:

 

[Ari Silverstein]

There are plenty of sports events that require explosive strength and speed that could be used to counter your position. Hockey, pole vaulting, rugby and swimming are several that come to mind quickly that have a preponderance of caucasians leading the way.

You're actually serious, aren't you. OK, I'll play along.

Are you saying that a black man would be genetically predisposed against the cold? Are you perpetuating the stereotype that a black man can't swim? Hopefully not!

Are you taking a morsel of my position and extrapolating it like a wild Borneon imbecile who is trolling for an argument? Hopefully not!

Genetics and hard work both play a part, but so do opportunity, cultural role models, community resources, marketing, success stories and a host of other factors that play into why a young man or woman would decide to commit the time and effort to excell at a certain sport.

Is this a new kind of self-trolling where you switch the ridiculous parameters you set forth above and now moderate them with logic and self-flagellation? Hopefully not!

Your premise reminds me of the justification to sending the 24th and 25th Infantry Regiments to Cuba in 1898

Are you quoting history of armed military conflict in a thread about black-white participation in 21st century sports as if you know wtf you are talking or that such a concept would be relevant in the least sense? Hopefully not!

My premise would be to find a sport that requires explosive speed-strength and where all the other factors such as opportunity to pursue, cultural role models and success stories are all evened out and you should see a level of integration that is not seen in many American sports. To me that sport is professional soccer.

That's it, you're toast.

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[Ari Silverstein]

Sigh, ok, you are obviously smarter and more experienced in this matter than I, so I'm going to stop and let the thread get back on the new S&C coach.eace:

It takes a brave and intelligent man to know his limitations. My :hi:to you.

 

[DMG]

Then paint a red smiley face on my rearend because that is junk science.

There are plenty of sports events that require explosive strength and speed that could be used to counter your position. Hockey, pole vaulting, rugby and swimming are several that come to mind quickly that have a preponderance of caucasians leading the way. Are you saying that a black man would be genetically predisposed against the cold? Are you perpetuating the stereotype that a black man can't swim? Hopefully not!

Genetics and hard work both play a part, but so do opportunity, cultural role models, community resources, marketing, success stories and a host of other factors that play into why a young man or woman would decide to commit the time and effort to excell at a certain sport.

Your premise reminds me of the justification to sending the 24th and 25th Infantry Regiments to Cuba in 1898--since they were composed of men from African and Caribbean ethnicities, the War Department assumed they were less susceptable to tropical diseases. Needless to say, they were surprised when the majority of the casualties came from yellow fever. . .

My premise would be to find a sport that requires explosive speed-strength and where all the other factors such as opportunity to pursue, cultural role models and success stories are all evened out and you should see a level of integration that is not seen in many American sports. To me that sport is professional soccer. Sure, it does not have the collision factor of American football, but it has all the speed, endurance etc requirements. While teams may reflect the demographics of their country, the fact is no one race dominates soccer.

Then there is the ultimate arena that combines explosive speed-strength requirements, along with endurance, reaction times, hand-eye coordination, gross and fine motor skills, problem solving skills, etc., etc. and that is in the military Special Operations Forces. Not sure what your experience is there, but I've personally seen ex-NFL players and ex-college football players(Black, White, Asian, Hispanic etc) fail miserably trying to just qualify. When you look at a Seal Team, SF-ODA, Delta Force or AF PJ team, there is no racial dominance. I'll say it again, in terms of real, life or death, ultimate physical and mental development, there simply and unquestionably is no racial dominance.

I think the perfect sport to demonstrate your point would be association football/soccer. It's a sport that takes anyone from around the world if you are good enough. You see all different races and creeds in the top flight soccer leagues.

 

[YorkVol]

You're actually serious, aren't you. OK, I'll play along. Are you taking a morsel of my position and extrapolating it like a wild Borneon imbecile who is trolling for an argument? Hopefully not!Is this a new kind of self-trolling where you switch the ridiculous parameters you set forth above and now moderate them with logic and self-flagellation? Hopefully not!Are you quoting history of armed military conflict in a thread about black-white participation in 21st century sports as if you know wtf you are talking or that such a concept would be relevant in the least sense? Hopefully not! That's it, you're toast.

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The problem with debating someone from a limited world view is they cannot expand their perspective nor do they have any intention of actually attempting to understand and maybe alter their position in the slightest. Next thing you'll be quoting Jimmy the Greek as evidence. Sad.

 

[Ari Silverstein]

The problem with debating someone from a limited world view is they cannot expand their perspective nor do they have any intention of actually attempting to understand and maybe alter their position in the slightest. Next thing you'll be quoting Jimmy the Greek as evidence. Sad.

Look, you want to go all 1880s philosophical on a simple, empirically answered, statement that black players are superior athletes than white players in speed-strength sports, go right ahead. Just don't expect me to hang with you while you make a fool out of yourself. :salute:

 

[YorkVol]

Look, you want to go all 1880s philosophical on a simple, empirically answered, statement that black players are superior athletes than white players in speed-strength sports, go right ahead. Just don't expect me to hang with you while you make a fool out of yourself. :salute:

If recognizing that the current demographics of certain sports is due more to social circumstances than actual racial dominance makes me a fool, than I'm comfortable with that.

 

[ManningBerry#1]

Then paint a red smiley face on my rearend because that is junk science.

There are plenty of sports events that require explosive strength and speed that could be used to counter your position. Hockey, pole vaulting, rugby and swimming are several that come to mind quickly that have a preponderance of caucasians leading the way. Are you saying that a black man would be genetically predisposed against the cold? Are you perpetuating the stereotype that a black man can't swim? Hopefully not!

Genetics and hard work both play a part, but so do opportunity, cultural role models, community resources, marketing, success stories and a host of other factors that play into why a young man or woman would decide to commit the time and effort to excell at a certain sport.

Your premise reminds me of the justification to sending the 24th and 25th Infantry Regiments to Cuba in 1898--since they were composed of men from African and Caribbean ethnicities, the War Department assumed they were less susceptable to tropical diseases. Needless to say, they were surprised when the majority of the casualties came from yellow fever. . .

My premise would be to find a sport that requires explosive speed-strength and where all the other factors such as opportunity to pursue, cultural role models and success stories are all evened out and you should see a level of integration that is not seen in many American sports. To me that sport is professional soccer. Sure, it does not have the collision factor of American football, but it has all the speed, endurance etc requirements. While teams may reflect the demographics of their country, the fact is no one race dominates soccer.

Then there is the ultimate arena that combines explosive speed-strength requirements, along with endurance, reaction times, hand-eye coordination, gross and fine motor skills, problem solving skills, etc., etc. and that is in the military Special Operations Forces. Not sure what your experience is there, but I've personally seen ex-NFL players and ex-college football players(Black, White, Asian, Hispanic etc) fail miserably trying to just qualify. When you look at a Seal Team, SF-ODA, Delta Force or AF PJ team, there is no racial dominance. I'll say it again, in terms of real, life or death, ultimate physical and mental development, there simply and unquestionably is no racial dominance.

Happy Martin Luther king day Mr. King
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[vol_sec]

Just so I can try to get a better bead on your stance answer me this; absolutely regardless of how much training and nutrition is involved what percentage of the population do you think is capable of running a sub-10.00 sec 100 meters? Having a 45+" vertical? Benching 500lbs?

I have benched 500lbs, and I think many people working out over a period of years could easily do that. The average nba player has a 28" or so jump, which many could also easily do. Comparing 45+ inches, the high end of the nba, to 500lbs bench is not comparable. 45+ inches jump I would say equals about 600-650 pounds bench, which is very hard to reach.

 

[JFizzle]

Wow....this thread went down in a hurry.....

 

[DjCrenshaw]

cuba, black, white, military, genetics, and culture. If the strength coach covers all this, we will be F'in set!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Ari Silverstein]

Wow....this thread went down in a hurry.....

Happens when a white supremacist don his hood and clown robe, lights his cross screaming like an incoherent moron that the Chosen Race has equal footing in the world of basketball, football and track as the hated Knee-Grow. :crazy:

 

[govols/cc]

I have benched 500lbs, and I think many people working out over a period of years could easily do that. The average nba player has a 28" or so jump, which many could also easily do. Comparing 45+ inches, the high end of the nba, to 500lbs bench is not comparable. 45+ inches jump I would say equals about 600-650 pounds bench, which is very hard to reach.

I don't think 500lbs is easy for anybody no matter how many years they workout. Even with the juice that would be hard to obtain.
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[nagle]

Happens when a white supremacist don his hood and clown robe, lights his cross screaming like an incoherent moron that the Chosen Race has equal footing in the world of basketball, football and track as the hated Knee-Grow. :crazy:

did you really just say this....

 

[Ari Silverstein]

did you really just say this....

Certainly did. It's high time we recognize that only three kinds of people believe that black athletes are not superior to white athletes in American sports.

1) Brain dead morons
2) Politically correct morons
3) White supremacist morons

YorkVol is firmly entrenched in #3. Why you ask? He appears to be fluent, that would rule out #1. He doesn't seem to be PC. That leaves white supremacist moron.

I have personally overseen the strength, power and post rehabilitation training of over 1,750 athletes, black, creamy, white, albino, male, female, shemale, pre-teen, near geriatric, professional, embarrassingly amateur, heteros and homos...you name it. It is a foregone conclusion that black athletes are genetically more gifted. In fact, it is so self-evident, I refuse to argue the point unless I am attempting to flush out what kind of moron I am having to deal.

One more comment. This "revelation" is in no way condescending to either the black or white athlete. No more than it is condescending to the moon to claim the sun is brighter. It is what it is.

Fact.

 

[tvols75]

Certainly did. It's high time we recognize that only three kinds of people believe that black athletes are not superior to white athletes in American sports.

1) Brain dead morons
2) Politically correct morons
3) White supremacist morons

YorkVol is firmly entrenched in #3. Why you ask? He appears to be fluent, that would rule out #1. He doesn't seem to be PC. That leaves white supremacist moron.

I have personally overseen the strength, power and post rehabilitation training of over 1,750 athletes, black, creamy, white, albino, male, female, shemale, pre-teen, near geriatric, professional, embarrassingly amateur, heteros and homos...you name it. It is a foregone conclusion that black athletes are genetically more gifted. In fact, it is so self-evident, I refuse to argue the point unless I am attempting to flush out what kind of moron I am having to deal.

One more comment. This "revelation" is in no way condescending to either the black or white athlete. No more than it is condescending to the moon to claim the sun is brighter. It is what it is.

Fact.

This is one of the dumbest thing I've seen in awhile. Thanks for the laugh.

 

[YorkVol]

VolNation,
I apologize that this thread has gone so far off the original post and for my part in taking it there. I recognize my folly of trying to debate this issue with Mr. Silverstein and tried my best to end it. However, being labelled a white supremist is such an awful insult that I must take one last effort at defending myself. After this I will say no more about this topic.

1) I denounce white supremacy and everything that it might stand for--as I do any effort to promote one race over any other.
2) I invite anyone who ventures to York Pa to look me up and visit and I pray that you would see someone who is attempting to live the opposite of what I think a white supremist might live.
3) We each have our own experiences with racism. I have studied it at the graduate level, written about it, been immersed in places where I was in the minority and places where I was in the majority. I have fought against genocide directly and racism in general for much of my adult life. I am not color blind, nor am I blind to the effects of poverty, limited opportunity and other types of oppression that many of our minority populations face in our country.
4) I recognize the racial make up of some of our professional sports and love the fact that many excellent men and women have found a way to rise to the top of their chosen profession. However, I am more concerned with the other 98%--those who do not make it into the professional ranks, despite being told of their genetic gifts, who do not have another plan for success such as following a trade, becoming a business owner, scientist, doctor or lawyer. I have met ex-athletes who tell me they didn't spend the time studying because they bought the lie about their physical gifts and had nothing to fall back on when their life as an athlete ended. In York City we have a 30% drop out rate in a high school that is 50% African American and 40% Hispanic, yet the goal remains to make it to the league. We're failing these kids because we continue to sell them this lie.
5) My experience and research tells me the only genetic differences among human groups are in terms of appearances--internal differences are all individual. I could be wrong and as genetic research progresses maybe that will be proven. However, for me to believe that one race could dominate another would mean that Hitler was right and that I cannot accept.
6) I defer to Mr. Silverstein's experience in his profession and what conclusions he draws. I would point out that our beliefs shape our actions and I would hope that when approached by 2 young men with similar goals that he would not make one a wide receiver and one a quarterback just based on their skin color.

Again, this is the last I will comment on this. If there are further insults and libel attached to my user name, consider those refuted in advance.

God bless you all, and now lets get excited about Spring training starting tomorrow!

 

[knoxff]

Certainly did. It's high time we recognize that only three kinds of people believe that black athletes are not superior to white athletes in American sports.

1) Brain dead morons
2) Politically correct morons
3) White supremacist morons

YorkVol is firmly entrenched in #3. Why you ask? He appears to be fluent, that would rule out #1. He doesn't seem to be PC. That leaves white supremacist moron.

I have personally overseen the strength, power and post rehabilitation training of over 1,750 athletes, black, creamy, white, albino, male, female, shemale, pre-teen, near geriatric, professional, embarrassingly amateur, heteros and homos...you name it. It is a foregone conclusion that black athletes are genetically more gifted. In fact, it is so self-evident, I refuse to argue the point unless I am attempting to flush out what kind of moron I am having to deal.

One more comment. This "revelation" is in no way condescending to either the black or white athlete. No more than it is condescending to the moon to claim the sun is brighter. It is what it is.

Fact.

Should Ari Silverstein be banned from this thread...Yes!

GBO!

 

[Ari Silverstein]

Should Ari Silverstein be banned from this thread...Yes!

This kind of attitude is exactly what I am posting about. Head in sand, no discussion, don't talk about race blah blah GTFU. This isn't blogfrica it's real lives and real people.

The worst thing to happen to race relations in America was the politically correct movement. I truly believe it removed honesty from many discussions involving race, leaving the subject a hollow shell of procedures and etiquette. And since people aren’t accustomed to honesty, both sides become very sensitive even at the slightest mention of the topic. Get over it.

We had better be the generation that starts to move past this ridiculousness. No better way than to start with the fact that black athletes are superior to white athletes which is a fact without dispute by any reasonably intelligent being.

 

[Ari Silverstein]

Originally Posted by Ari Silverstein
Certainly did. It's high time we recognize that only three kinds of people believe that black athletes are not superior to white athletes in American sports.

1) Brain dead morons
2) Politically correct morons
3) White supremacist morons

YorkVol is firmly entrenched in #3. Why you ask? He appears to be fluent, that would rule out #1. He doesn't seem to be PC. That leaves white supremacist moron.

I have personally overseen the strength, power and post rehabilitation training of over 1,750 athletes, black, creamy, white, albino, male, female, shemale, pre-teen, near geriatric, professional, embarrassingly amateur, heteros and homos...you name it. It is a foregone conclusion that black athletes are genetically more gifted. In fact, it is so self-evident, I refuse to argue the point unless I am attempting to flush out what kind of moron I am having to deal.

One more comment. This "revelation" is in no way condescending to either the black or white athlete. No more than it is condescending to the moon to claim the sun is brighter. It is what it is.

Fact.

This is one of the dumbest thing I've seen in awhile. Thanks for the laugh.

Instead of chuckiling back there on your underutilized computer, why not express an opinion, you know, stick your neck out and actually say something that means a damn.

New concept? Try it on. :hi:

 

[bamacheats]

Should Ari Silverstein be banned from this thread...Yes!

GBO!

Anti-semite!
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[Ari Silverstein]

Quote:
Originally Posted by knoxff
Should Ari Silverstein be banned from this thread...Yes!

Anti-semite!
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lol: It's OK, the Pope says we're not to blame for killing Christ. All is well. :crazy:

 

[Nashvol2]

!lol: It's OK, the Pope says we're not to blame for killing Christ. All is well. :crazy:

This also, should be obvious.

 

[VOLinNC]

So is the new strength coach a geneticist?
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[tvols75]

Originally Posted by Ari Silverstein
Certainly did. It's high time we recognize that only three kinds of people believe that black athletes are not superior to white athletes in American sports.

1) Brain dead morons
2) Politically correct morons
3) White supremacist morons

YorkVol is firmly entrenched in #3. Why you ask? He appears to be fluent, that would rule out #1. He doesn't seem to be PC. That leaves white supremacist moron.

I have personally overseen the strength, power and post rehabilitation training of over 1,750 athletes, black, creamy, white, albino, male, female, shemale, pre-teen, near geriatric, professional, embarrassingly amateur, heteros and homos...you name it. It is a foregone conclusion that black athletes are genetically more gifted. In fact, it is so self-evident, I refuse to argue the point unless I am attempting to flush out what kind of moron I am having to deal.

One more comment. This "revelation" is in no way condescending to either the black or white athlete. No more than it is condescending to the moon to claim the sun is brighter. It is what it is.

Fact.
Instead of chuckiling back there on your underutilized computer, why not express an opinion, you know, stick your neck out and actually say something that means a damn.

New concept? Try it on. :hi:

Yeah like calling someone a white supremacist because he argued with you over the claim you made about African Americans vs. Whites means a whole lot and brought a lot to this board.