Uneven Playing Field in College Baseball

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Ive often heard Vanderbilt has a competitive advantage, via the rules, that other SEC teams dont have.......
 
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BruinVol said:
Just not true

@vol66 i am even growing tired of this subject these days
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yes it is.....the Vandy Opportunity program funds all students from the school's endowment, based on household income........

and if your tired discussing it, then stay off the chat and have another white claw Judy
 
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jackieaprilesr said:
yes it is.....the Vandy Opportunity program funds all students from the school's endowment, based on household income........

and if your tired discussing it, then stay off the chat and have another white claw Judy
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Just stop


Your op said they used donations to their baseball program to fund their scholarships and I hate to tell you that’s flat ass wrong. Their need based aid has nothing to do with donations made to their baseball program.

and I can assure you there is no one here more knowledgeable about vandys scholarship advantage than I am. Im just tired of posters like yourself coming here and having to be corrected all the time with their lack of knowledge
 
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Batman1948 said:
Everyone who sees this, needs to take the time to watch this video. Great information on baseball scholarship limitations. Title IX---Title IX---Title IX-----can't say it enough.
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You can say it all you want, but Title IX of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, as amended in 1972, is federal law. It’s not going anywhere and it’s a good thing.

The law doesn’t target baseball or mandate that baseball be the sport from which scholarships are taken to mitigate the enormous number that football absorbs. Here’s an idea: take 5 scholarships from football. Give 5 to baseball. Watch the difference that makes.
 
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I’ve been working in Higher Education for almost 20 years now. I have witnessed a lot of change. Title IX giveth and Title IX taketh.
 
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The uneven playing field will get further apart when the new conferences are settled. I think they should increase the scholarships but the smaller D1's can't afford it since they cannot afford a third paid assistant. I think eventually there will be a movement to larger D1 and smaller D1 or a P5 division and the increased scholarships will happen and 3rd paid assistant.
 
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preacherman20 said:
The uneven playing field will get further apart when the new conferences are settled. I think they should increase the scholarships but the smaller D1's can't afford it since they cannot afford a third paid assistant. I think eventually there will be a movement to larger D1 and smaller D1 or a P5 division and the increased scholarships will happen and 3rd paid assistant.
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Smaller schools shouldn’t care about an increase of scholarship dollars. They are already losing to the power 5 in recruiting and the scholarship amount doesn’t matter. Give the big boys 16-17 scholarships and the little guys can keep 11.7 if they choose and nothing really changes
 
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BruinVol said:
Smaller schools shouldn’t care about an increase of scholarship dollars. They are already losing to the power 5 in recruiting and the scholarship amount doesn’t matter. Give the big boys 16-17 scholarships and the little guys can keep 11.7 if they choose and nothing really changes
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True. Schools like Lipscomb will still be behind schools like UT even if the number was increased.
 
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C/O said:
True. Schools like Lipscomb will still be behind schools like UT even if the number was increased.
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The number of players allowed is the only line of defense they have against the SEC. the scholarship dollars is irrelevant
 
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BruinVol said:
Smaller schools shouldn’t care about an increase of scholarship dollars. They are already losing to the power 5 in recruiting and the scholarship amount doesn’t matter. Give the big boys 16-17 scholarships and the little guys can keep 11.7 if they choose and nothing really changes
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Duh, the smaller schools will lose their best players to the big schools in that case. Smaller schools can compete on occasion, Coastal Carolina won the CWS in '16 i believe. Southern Miss and others have been to Omaha.

The endowment money "Vandy opportunity" or whatever its called is the trump card that Vanderbilt has in all of their spring sports. They dont just use it for baseball but golf, tennis, soccer, bowling.
 
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wmcovol said:
Duh, the smaller schools will lose their best players to the big schools in that case. Smaller schools can compete on occasion, Coastal Carolina won the CWS in '16 i believe. Southern Miss and others have been to Omaha.

The endowment money "Vandy opportunity" or whatever its called is the trump card that Vanderbilt has in all of their spring sports. They dont just use it for baseball but golf, tennis, soccer, bowling.
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Huh??

smaller schools are already losing to the big boys every time in recruiting. As I said the $ amount doesn’t matter. Schools like Southern Miss and coastal would obviously allocate extra scholarship dollars if the 11.7 was increased. So not sure what your point is here

as for vandy baseball they damn sure do use that need based aid. No idea what you are saying here but it couldn’t be more wrong
 
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BruinVol said:
Huh??

smaller schools are already losing to the big boys every time in recruiting. As I said the $ amount doesn’t matter. Schools like Southern Miss and coastal would obviously allocate extra scholarship dollars if the 11.7 was increased. So not sure what your point is here

as for vandy baseball they damn sure do use that need based aid. No idea what you are saying here but it couldn’t be more wrong
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I’m not going to claim I’m the genius here like you. My son played D1 baseball at a mid major. If some of those guys, especially pitchers, had been offered by a major school, they’d gone there. At 11.7 , they weren’t offered by big schools but at 16, they most likely could have been offered. Instead they played at a mid major, got 70-80% money, beat some SEC teams along the way and several played pro ball, even in MLB.

Depth especially in pitching is the difference. You only have to recall the Wright State game as an example.
 
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wmcovol said:
I’m not going to claim I’m the genius here like you. My son played D1 baseball at a mid major. If some of those guys, especially pitchers, had been offered by a major school, they’d gone there. At 11.7 , they weren’t offered by big schools but at 16, they most likely could have been offered. Instead they played at a mid major, got 70-80% money, beat some SEC teams along the way and several played pro ball, even in MLB.

Depth especially in pitching is the difference. You only have to recall the Wright State game as an example.
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We aren’t saying much differently. Those kids that signed with a mid major WOULD have signed with a big school for any $ amount. A 25% offer from tenn is beating a 70% offer from Lipscomb 99 times out of 100
 
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BruinVol said:
We aren’t saying much differently. Those kids that signed with a mid major WOULD have signed with a big school for any $ amount. A 25% offer from tenn is beating a 70% offer from Lipscomb 99 times out of 100
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You’re Mr Know it All
 
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