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ETvol2015 said:
Volproof is there truth to the rumours about a russian emp so strong it could knock out the entire us grid?
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Not sure if serious, will treat it as such. Short answer:no. Long answer, no, at least not while being an EMP. The power emitted (forget what type) is very strong but relatively short ranged. Nuclear bombs produce the strongest EMP blasts and the range doesn't extend past the blast radius, making the EMP burst irrelevant in that scenario. As far as I know unless danny ocean has one to pull out of his butt there are no EMP devices strong enough to take out a city. For there to be ONE device to be that strong (even as an EMP device) that the amount of energy necessary is so ridiculous to be hilarious. (Think faster than the speed of light ridiculous) their best bet would be to hit one of the major stations and you might take out a few states for a while. Most would be back up within 24 hours, the target area a while longer. And while it would fry a lot of residential tech anything on a half decent surge prote for would be fine. The grid itself would be relatively fine, mainly collateral stuff. Transformers blowing in some areas etc. Most areas in the us have redundant power supplies and enough variety where others could take over (at least in the short term). You have to remember we have tons of mothballed power plants all over, coal ones getting shut down, nuclear plants off line for upgrades, natural gas plants up north for the winter. And going back to the ocean elevens thing it would only be temporary. Unless we are talking about something big enough in which case that would likely hit more than the US. The rockies and apalachians, to an extent on the later, would make it very difficult for that type of wave to take out the US, you would likely end up taking out half the worlds power.

It would be much more effective to use convential means to take out our power supply rather than the grid itself. Of course here in a decade or two our whole infrastructure is going to fall apart anyway so the Russians can just out wait that.
 
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volprof said:
Russia's Supersonic Tu-160 Bomber Is Back: Should America Worry? | The National Interest

The Blackjack! It's back!

Or is it?

Duhn duhn duhn!

On another note, that is a beautiful plane. Albeit ripped off from the American B-1 design. But, hey, what's a Russian or Chinese weapons platform without a little stealing!
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They are trying to do way too much with their budget. All these new military plans are going to bottleneck and collapse each other on a MIC that hasn't had big meals like this in a while. Let's see, they are upping sub production, building 2 super carriers, building more new superbombers, designing a new battle tank and a host of other things. This is coming from the nation that had to buy its last two ships from another nation.
 
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LouderVol said:
They are trying to do way too much with their budget. All these new military plans are going to bottleneck and collapse each other on a MIC that hasn't had big meals like this in a while. Let's see, they are upping sub production, building 2 super carriers, building more new superbombers, designing a new battle tank and a host of other things. This is coming from the nation that had to buy its last two ships from another nation.
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Most of their shipbuilding capacity has rotted away from years of chronic underinvestment. I will believe this massive naval rearmament when I see it.
 
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LouderVol said:
Not sure if serious, will treat it as such. Short answer:no. Long answer, no, at least not while being an EMP. The power emitted (forget what type) is very strong but relatively short ranged. Nuclear bombs produce the strongest EMP blasts and the range doesn't extend past the blast radius, making the EMP burst irrelevant in that scenario. As far as I know unless danny ocean has one to pull out of his butt there are no EMP devices strong enough to take out a city. For there to be ONE device to be that strong (even as an EMP device) that the amount of energy necessary is so ridiculous to be hilarious. (Think faster than the speed of light ridiculous) their best bet would be to hit one of the major stations and you might take out a few states for a while. Most would be back up within 24 hours, the target area a while longer. And while it would fry a lot of residential tech anything on a half decent surge prote for would be fine. The grid itself would be relatively fine, mainly collateral stuff. Transformers blowing in some areas etc. Most areas in the us have redundant power supplies and enough variety where others could take over (at least in the short term). You have to remember we have tons of mothballed power plants all over, coal ones getting shut down, nuclear plants off line for upgrades, natural gas plants up north for the winter. And going back to the ocean elevens thing it would only be temporary. Unless we are talking about something big enough in which case that would likely hit more than the US. The rockies and apalachians, to an extent on the later, would make it very difficult for that type of wave to take out the US, you would likely end up taking out half the worlds power.
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wut

I thought we were talking about a computer-based attack?
 
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LouderVol said:
They are trying to do way too much with their budget. All these new military plans are going to bottleneck and collapse each other on a MIC that hasn't had big meals like this in a while. Let's see, they are upping sub production, building 2 super carriers, building more new superbombers, designing a new battle tank and a host of other things. This is coming from the nation that had to buy its last two ships from another nation.
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My personal favorite is the new "super" transport plane they're "designing" and intending on "building" by 2020 or something like that. Larger than any other plane on Earth, capable of carrying some hundred-odd troops and 10 or more tanks (or something like that) anywhere on Earth within 4 hours.

RT did a story on it. Probably one of the most ridiculous proposals I've ever heard, but of course everyone there took it seriously.
 
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volprof said:
My personal favorite is the new "super" transport plane they're "designing" and intending on "building" by 2020 or something like that. Larger than any other plane on Earth, capable of carrying some hundred-odd troops and 10 or more tanks (or something like that) anywhere on Earth within 4 hours.

RT did a story on it. Probably one of the most ridiculous proposals I've ever heard, but of course everyone there took it seriously.
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lol, and a single missile will still bring it down. i seem to remember one of our helicopters getting a confirmed air kill in the Gulf, I say we let one of those knock it out of the sky.
 
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volprof said:
And you thought American geopolitical analysts were bad. Goodnight. The Russian "American experts" actually think Hillary is the worst possible presidential choice, as far as their interests are concerned.

"America has a simple ideology": how one of Russia's top US experts tries to explain America - Vox

It seems that neither nation's "respected" analysts really understand the nation they're entrusted to analyze.
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warmongering, we are so good at it, we do it even when we aren't doing it. There is a World's Most Interesting Man Meme in there somewhere.
 
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LouderVol said:
agreed. said so at the end of that last monologue. just about anything would be more plausible than an EMP.
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Certainly the Russians are capable of doing something to our grid. I suspect the reason they haven't is because we can dish out whatever they do and then some in response. Unlike North Korea, they have an actual Internet we could take down.
 
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Velo Vol said:
Certainly the Russians are capable of doing something to our grid. I suspect the reason they haven't is because we can dish out whatever they do and then some in response. Unlike North Korea, they have an actual Internet we could take down.
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not the porn! that's inhumane even for the Russians. :)
 
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