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Rasputin_Vol said:
Using your dad's logic, what would your dad say to you if you asked him about buying or selling the stock market vs gold/silver?

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i am guessing you are talking about now, not 5-8 years ago. My dad would tell me to keep my investments diversified. (my dad has had a crap ton of financial advice for me, no two situations are the same, save money, for every dollar you spend save/invest 2, if you aren't certain its better to save than spend, if you aren't certain try 'paying' that money into another account for a year and see how it affects you) would you like me to go on?
 
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Velo Vol said:
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As I understand it, the 20,000 are on the border. The military exercises are what was 400 miles away or so in the Krasnador area. Related, but not related. So Rasputin's account is somewhat misleading, as you point out.
 
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And Velo, who would have ever have thought that when you started this thread back in early December that we would still be talking about this some 4,000 posts in now! Unbelievable.
 
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What is the timeline of a potential Russian invasion?

Well, it’s probably cold comfort, particularly to those facing them, but I don’t think all those Russian troops massed along the Ukrainian border are as battle-ready as their chain of command would like us to think. The overwhelming majority are 12-month conscripts, and so probably of less utility than one might think. Russian law requires that Russian conscripts may not be sent to a combat zone until they have had at least six months of training, but six months’ training produces a very basic soldier, not one capable of a whole lot more. The draft cycles run in fall and spring which probably leaves Russia with pretty narrow windows for launching a military campaign: the spring 2014 class isn’t fully trained up yet, while the Fall 2013 class is already antsy short-timers. In terms of trained soldier availability though, I might invade in late August to early September to best take advantage of Russia’s available conscript manpower. That also just happens to be the same time of year when Russian runs its annual set-piece military exercises. Thanks to Russia’s archaic military manpower system, the upcoming six weeks are the most potentially dangerous for a potential Russian invasion of Ukraine.
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His most recent article citing the analogies between Hitler and Putin is interesting as well. I've been citing those same similarities the last month or two also. I don't think Putin is Hitler, to be clear, but the rhetoric he has stirred up in that country is certainly "Hitleresque," so to speak.

I've watched Vice News reports and have read comments from Russian posters on RT. Now, granted, they're the most extreme of the extreme, but many of them commonly reference things like the need to usher in a "new era of world peace," "a new golden age of the world," "a world that can protect Russian genes," and a word that recognizes the superiority of "Russian genes."

This is the same nonsense we heard from Germany in the 30s.

And add to this the analog of WWI, wherein the German Empire felt surrounded by the Allies and, therefore, acted much more aggressively than it probably should have.
 
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The rebels now want a truce once they are cut off from supply. I hope the Ukrainians roll them them quickly.
 
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Burhead said:
The rebels now want a truce once they are cut off from supply. I hope the Ukrainians roll them them quickly.
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I'm not trying to be alarmist, but the more I hear out of those quacks from Moscow, the more "alert" I become, so to speak.

This has gotten me thinking, at the moment, what is this crisis on a scale of 0-10, 0 being the days the US and the Russian Empire were chummy friends back in the 1800s and 10 being all out nuclear war between the US and the USSR?

If the Cuban Missile Crisis was an 8 or a 9, what is this crisis at the moment?

I'll say a 4 or 5. And quite frankly, this crisis is what Vladimir Putin wants to make out of it. As he goes, so goes my numerical rating.
 
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And another thing I've started wondering about here recently, how does Vlad see the ISIS crisis? Specifically, does he see it as a convenient and sufficient enough distraction for us? It's a legitimate question, no doubt.
 
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volprof said:
And another thing I've started wondering about here recently, how does Vlad see the ISIS crisis? Specifically, does he see it as a convenient and sufficient enough distraction for us? It's a legitimate question, no doubt.
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i really appreciate your posts about this subject. you obviously read a lot about it. i tend to agree with you also. thanks.

on a side note will you get back to me about the RAM comment in the other thread? i dont know what i have missed but it concerns me. have no desire to argue with you i assure you...ive just never heard anything negative about them and have been very close to their operation at times. great people...my shift button is not cooperating, sorry no caps.
 
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volprof said:
I'm not trying to be alarmist, but the more I hear out of those quacks from Moscow, the more "alert" I become, so to speak.

This has gotten me thinking, at the moment, what is this crisis on a scale of 0-10, 0 being the days the US and the Russian Empire were chummy friends back in the 1800s and 10 being all out nuclear war between the US and the USSR?

If the Cuban Missile Crisis was an 8 or a 9, what is this crisis at the moment?

I'll say a 4 or 5. And quite frankly, this crisis is what Vladimir Putin wants to make out of it. As he goes, so goes my numerical rating.
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I would say we're at a 4.5 to a 5 at highest. Nothing on the sort of the Cuban Missile Crisis.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
i really appreciate your posts about this subject. you obviously read a lot about it. i tend to agree with you also. thanks.

on a side note will you get back to me about the RAM comment in the other thread? i dont know what i have missed but it concerns me. have no desire to argue with you i assure you...ive just never heard anything negative about them and have been very close to their operation at times. great people...my shift button is not cooperating, sorry no caps.
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I'm sorry, bud. The RAM comment? I must have missed it. What thread is it in?

And thanks for the kind words!
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
the stacey campfield? thread...may have you confused with someone else prof.
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If you'll check the Campfield thread, I think I've now addressed your question. Sorry for any misunderstanding. I only kept up with that thread for that first night. I hadn't looked at it since.
 
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volprof said:
And another thing I've started wondering about here recently, how does Vlad see the ISIS crisis? Specifically, does he see it as a convenient and sufficient enough distraction for us? It's a legitimate question, no doubt.
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Putin brokered a peace deal that prevented Obama from bombing/invading Syria last summer. Why would he feel relieved now that ISIS is stampeding all over Syria today? If anything, it further reinforces the belief that Syria and Ukraine are really proxy wars between the US and Russia.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Putin brokered a peace deal that prevented Obama from bombing/invading Syria last summer. Why would he feel relieved now that ISIS is stampeding all over Syria today? If anything, it further reinforces the belief that Syria and Ukraine are really proxy wars between the US and Russia.
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If NATO or the EU stages missiles in The Ukraine, the Cuban Missile Crisis is exactly what you will have on our hands.
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I think you're pretty spot-on about our economy, at least a good deal of the time.

But that being said, you're one crazy SOB, aren't you? Missiles in Ukraine? If I've told you once, I'll tell you again, stop watching Rossiya 1.
 
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Burhead said:
I would say we're at a 4.5 to a 5 at highest. Nothing on the sort of the Cuban Missile Crisis.
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Yeah, that's obviously where I position it at the moment. We're simpatico. I'd wager though that you agree with me that the scale goes as Putin goes, right? Although I don't want to put words in your mouth.
 
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volprof said:
Yeah, that's obviously where I position it at the moment. We're simpatico. I'd wager though that you agree with me that the scale goes as Putin goes, right? Although I don't want to put words in your mouth.
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Uhh, Obama is the loose cannon in all of this. If Obama does something that provokes Russia, are they just supposed to sit on their hands and take it?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Uhh, Obama is the loose cannon in all of this. If Obama does something that provokes Russia, are they just supposed to sit on their hands and take it?
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Lol, Obama is the loose cannon? I didn't know we were funneling men, supplies, and weapons into the Ukrainian side like a certain man in the Kremlin is. :crazy:
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Uhh, Obama is the loose cannon in all of this. If Obama does something that provokes Russia, are they just supposed to sit on their hands and take it?
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As the late, great Pontius Pilate said, "I wash my hands clean of you."

Well, he kind of said that, but the point remains the same.
 
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Burhead said:
Lol, Obama is the loose cannon? I didn't know we were funneling men, supplies, and weapons into the Ukrainian side like a certain man in the Kremlin is. :crazy:
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All we did was orchestrate a coup in one of Russia's neighbors... all because the govt decided not to join the EU.

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Rasputin_Vol said:
All we did was orchestrate a coup in one of Russia's neighbors... all because the govt decided not to join the EU.

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A government that was a puppet of the Kremlin that went against the people's wishes. Secondly the Russians need to understand they are no longer the Soviet Union and no longer reserve the right to decide the collective futures of the former Soviet Republics.
 
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