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I'd also love to have a running tally on how many times Putin's balls have been referenced in this thread. And this tally would also include my references to "phallic diplomacy." Maybe 100-200 times?

For as wrong as he was about many things, and for as doped up as he constantly was, I'll admit that Freud did at least grasp the significance of the sex drive in determining our conscious actions and thoughts.
 
The way he's portrayed it doesn't even sound like it's for security considerations. He's just old school.
 
"O dark-browed maidens fall in love, but not with the Moskals [Russians]."

It's amazing those few letters say all of that on that shirt.

The article is incorrect. At least the front of the shirt does not say that. It says "Do not let the Russians..." and I'm assuming the rest is implied by the image.
 
I like the petition itself, including the remarkable revelation that it was Siberian Russians who originally settled the Americas some 10-16,000 years ago. Calling Siberians "Russian" provided for a good laugh.

Also, the wording of the document is so awful it's clearly the work of a non-native speaker, i.e., most likely a Russian citizen.
 
No idea on how good this poll is, but the fringe parties aren't showing very well

https://twitter.com/electionista/status/448921592102285312/photo/1

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I'm not sure when this was made, although the film quality suggests probably a few years ago. Regardless, it was definitely before the current Ukrainian Crisis. It's a good documentary on Putin and his Russia. I recommend watching if you have half a year to spare.

https://www.youtube.com/v/m5Rkom1RpKA
 
Really?

Really?

The parallels are there if he does move into Eastern Ukraine and blitzes to Transnistria.

Crimea = Anschluss
Eastern/Southern Ukraine = Sudetenland
Transnistria = Poland?

No matter how you spin this, if Putin rolls tanks into Eastern Ukraine it is nothing more than a blatant land grab by the Kremlin. Even more so than the illegal annexation of Crimea.
 
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Why Putin won't (or shouldn't) invade Ukraine:

A war in Ukraine would spell disaster for Russia | BDlive

A military move into eastern Ukraine would greatly increase the dangers of a political, military and economic blow-back sufficiently powerful to threaten the leadership in the Kremlin. Western military analysts have no doubt that, in the first instance, the Russian army would swiftly overwhelm Ukrainian forces. But recent history suggests that when the world’s leading powers resort to military intervention against a hostile local population they almost always suffer a long-term strategic defeat.

Putin, who has lamented that the collapse of the Soviet Union was the greatest "geopolitical disaster of the 20th century", should know that the "disaster" was greatly accelerated by the draining effects of the Soviet war in Afghanistan. Even the mighty US was unable to win in either Iraq or Afghanistan.

Obama has apparently learnt the lessons of these failed wars far better than Putin. Of course, the Russian (and US) public gets a certain retro thrill from a macho leader who is willing to send in the tanks. But, in time, they end up lamenting his folly.

Why is it that military force has become so much less effective in achieving political goals? Jeremy Shapiro of the Brookings Institution suggests that changes in military and social technology have made it much harder for invading armies to secure a lasting victory.

Unless the population of the area that has been invaded is tiny, an insurgency is likely to develop. Modern-day insurgents usually have weaponry that can inflict steady casualties.

They now also have social media and mobile communications technology that make it much easier to get organised. If the insurgency also has powerful external supporters, it can be almost impossible to subdue.
 
BBC News - IMF close to agreeing aid package for Ukraine

If this all is a ploy on Putin's part to gain more influence (even regional), he's failing.



"Under this scenario, we estimate that economic growth will slow down to 0.6 percent." The Economy Ministry forecast in January that GDP growth this year would be about 2.5 percent.

The World Bank gave a gloomier forecast for the Russian economy, saying that in a high-risk scenario of persistent tension over Ukraine, Moscow's economy could shrink by up to 1.8 percent, even without Western trade sanctions.

Ukraine's dollar bonds jumped on news of the IMF bailout while Russian stocks were down about 1.5 percent on economic pessimism there.

Russian leaders have already said that Ukraine's discount from Gazprom will come to an end next week. Yatseniuk said he expected Moscow to charge Kiev as much as $480 per 1,000 cubic meters of gas from April 1 instead of the current $268.50.

That could exacerbate the country's economic woes and cause political instability in the run-up to a May 25 presidential election.

IMF throws Ukraine financial lifeline, Russian economy to slump | Reuters
 
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Breaking: US officials tell @CNN #Russian troop levels on #Ukraine border rise to 40,000. Officials in Kiev put figure at 88,000

@gerrydogma 5m

Former Ukraine Defense Minister Marchuk claims the next 2 days will be most difficult in history of independent Ukraine. Cites UKR intel...

They also have around 25k in Crimea. Parubiy says there are 100k Russian troops on the border plus supporting equipment. If that 100k estimate is true that is almost the size of our surge in Iraq commitment.
 
@jimsciutto 26m

Breaking: US officials tell @CNN #Russian troop levels on #Ukraine border rise to 40,000. Officials in Kiev put figure at 88,000

@gerrydogma 5m

Former Ukraine Defense Minister Marchuk claims the next 2 days will be most difficult in history of independent Ukraine. Cites UKR intel...

They also have around 25k in Crimea. Parubiy says there are 100k Russian troops on the border plus supporting equipment. If that 100k estimate is true that is almost the size of our surge in Iraq commitment.

This Marchuk is the same guy who was just relieved of his duties this past week, right? If so, how exactly would he still be privy to such information? Contacts? Perhaps the Ukrainians don't stress "classification" as much as we do, or else I'm just misrepresenting all of this.
 
Just doing some research on the Ukrainian military, I can't be how much it has been dismantled over the years. When the Soviet Union collapsed, the Ukraine took over the following;

* 1st Guards Army
* 13th Army
* 38th Army
* 6th Guards Tank Army
* 8th Tank Army
* 32nd Army Corps
* 28th Guards Motor Rifle Division
* 180th Motor Rifle Division

Which totaled around 780,000 troops, 6,500 armored vehicles, and 6,500 tanks and to mention 2,500 tactical nukes. Now they barely have 6,000 combat ready troops with the Russians potentially invading. Also it seems like the Canadians think it could happen within the week.
 
This Marchuk is the same guy who was just relieved of his duties this past week, right? If so, how exactly would he still be privy to such information? Contacts? Perhaps the Ukrainians don't stress "classification" as much as we do, or else I'm just misrepresenting all of this.

That was Ihor Tenyukh. Marchuk served 2003 to 2004.
 

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