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orangeluvr said:
I find myself wondering why people support a party that clearly don't have their best interests in mind. You know,the trickle down crowd. :question:
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Then why would I want to vote for someone that openly advocates giving other people more money that I earned?
 
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Grand Vol said:
That contains: Megyn Kelly, Andrea Tantaros, Harris Faulkner, Ainsley Earhardt, Kimberly Guilfoyle...

I could go on, but I'd personally rather watch Megyn Kelly read from a dictionary over Rachel Maddow reporting the legitimate news.
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I don't watch the news for reporters looks....
 
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orangeluvr said:
I find myself wondering why people support a party that clearly don't have their best interests in mind. You know,the trickle down crowd. :question:
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tell us how the democrats have the people's best interest in mind.

Keep in mind that these are the same people who have, in the past, openly supported Che Guevara, Castro, Mao, and Chavez.
 
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volinbham said:
Why on earth do people keep referring to the 21st century as a reason why this situation is wrong? Obama, Kerry and now the Ukrainian interim PM all use this like something magical happened when we hit the year 2000. (spare me the Prince or Conan O'Brien references)
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We've turned the page on the Cold War.
 
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Burhead said:
I don't watch the news for reporters looks....
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Added bonus. Fox is pretty spot on with the actual news broadcasts. The commentary programs and talk shows are obviously pro-conservative. But the basic reporting is pretty good and about what you would get with any other news service.
 
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Velo Vol said:
We've turned the page on the Cold War.
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Unfortunately, not everyone in the world has. You can take the moral high road and "21st Century" diplomacy all you want, but if you can't get through to your geopolitical foe, it won't amount to a hill of beans.

Putin is a ex-KGB agent that has a Cold War mentality when it comes to international diplomacy. And in order to reach him and make him understand your position, you have to play the same game.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Unfortunately, not everyone in the world has. You can take the moral high road and "21st Century" diplomacy all you want, but if you can't get through to your geopolitical foe, it won't amount to a hill of beans.

Putin is a ex-KGB agent that has a Cold War mentality when it comes to international diplomacy. And in order to reach him and make him understand your position, you have to play the same game.
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Saw today that Russia is planning to reopen a military on the Finnish border and that Russians jets also buzzed Georgian air space as well.
 
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volinbham said:
Why on earth do people keep referring to the 21st century as a reason why this situation is wrong? Obama, Kerry and now the Ukrainian interim PM all use this like something magical happened when we hit the year 2000. (spare me the Prince or Conan O'Brien references)
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That's a good point. Earlier today, one international analyst (can't remember who) said that Putin was taking a nineteenth-century approach to international politics. Maybe we should get us some of that there reform.
 
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volinbham said:
Why on earth do people keep referring to the 21st century as a reason why this situation is wrong? Obama, Kerry and now the Ukrainian interim PM all use this like something magical happened when we hit the year 2000. (spare me the Prince or Conan O'Brien references)
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Because the libs think they are smarter than anyone, and they believe that people have reached a place where somehow true reality is displaced by wanted utopianism.

They think if you punch them, then the law will get ya or they will sue you. They do not realize that the punch can be meant to kill and the puncher just might not give a crap about any man made laws or punishments.

We as Americans, all Americans, have it easy. Easier than probably 85% of the world just because you were born into this great country.

Libs have forgotten how hard and real the world is.

Somehow, the simplest of truths elude them: might makes right. Resources and simple economics concerning survival.

In this world, especially outside of these borders, you are a target. Why?

Because we have what they don't. We have figured out how to live with each other civilly and have access to the most important things that a human could want. But, somehow they are content on trying to ruin that.

Share your wealth and share your tax returns you corrupt politicians who have become millionaires--

being a politician....

let's see where your money comes from and goes big mouthed, cause-toting fighters for the people. Full of hot air and no concern except for themselves--not their country, not their statesman, not their neighbors.

Greedy/avarice, vanity filled pos is what we have for the majority in D.C.- not public servants doing their duty/obligation.

When you live in the clouds you forget to keep your feet on the ground, and they have had too much time living above the norm. Like Mel Brooks said, it's good to be the king. Or in this case, a member of the political machine.
 
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The best news show is "The Daily Show" with Jon Stewart. He singles out the hypocrites irregardless of the party or who the hypocrite is.
 
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Pravda reporting that there might be a possibility of Russian assaults on Ukrainian positions on Crimea possibly tonight, we shall see.
 
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Burhead said:
Saw today that Russia is planning to reopen a military on the Finnish border and that Russians jets also buzzed Georgian air space as well.
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Didn't think the Finns were that much of a threat. They threaten invasion with Finlandia or something?

But it does support the point I was making. You cannot deal with someone like Putin by being "nice" and saying pretty things in a 30 second soundbite. Not unlike the Soviet leaders from the Cold War, you have to deal with them from a position of strength and the balls and ability to back it up.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Didn't think the Finns were that much of a threat. They threaten invasion with Finlandia or something?

But it does support the point I was making. You cannot deal with someone like Putin by being "nice" and saying pretty things in a 30 second soundbite. Not unlike the Soviet leaders from the Cold War, you have to deal with them from a position of strength and the balls and ability to back it up.
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Ask the Soviets on how tough the Finns are :p
 
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orangeluvr said:
If you right wingers don't like" left wing" policies then fore go Social Security and Medicare, the repubs fought tooth and nail to stop their passage. :question:
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I'm 36 years old. I have been paying into soc sec and medicare for 21 years now and I am certain I will never draw a dime because libtards like you support policies that actually give away the portion of my payceck that is "jacked" from me faster than I can replace it.
I support a family of 4 with no help of any kind frm any govt agency...and don't intend to take a handout from anyone as long as I'm able to do for me and mine. I watch as every possible abomination to good sense and morals bcomes not only legal but common practice in a country which has turned its back on God and is in the fastlane to Hell in every measurable sense.
I wait in line at the grocery store behind people who will blow 200 dollars at the drop of a hat on the things I have to tell my kids "no" about because I must balance a budget...Hot Pockets..designer icecream..microwave french fries..etc. etc..they can drop 200 bucks on nothing but junk because THEY ARE SPENDING MY PAYCHECK and not their own...see they don't work. Aren't going to work...many don't even speak english...but they can sell a little dope and between that and their fre medical care..subsidized housing...baby mama checks...hell disability...they get along just fine. While we struggle andlive check to check because we actually do work

I would love for some liberal pantywaist like you to stand in front of me right about the time I check out at the grocery store behind one of these leeches...and start preaching about what I am and am not entitled to. You can bet your ass you would only do it once..
 
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KentheOrange said:
Your post indicated you believe Bush took us into Iraq based on lies about WMDs and Orangeluvr seems to agree with you. I'm only pointing out the error of that line of thinking.
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I figured that's what you were getting at, but I just wanted to give you the chance to clarify. I hear what you're saying, and you may very well be right. Perhaps the WMD intelligence did fail us. I do certainly agree with you though that military strategy (possible permanent military base) had something to do with it and, I might even go further and say securing the area for US oil interests. Speculative on my part though.

Either way, I think we can also agree that, no matter what the motives, Bush took full advantage of 9/11. Any other time, the American public would have had no stomach for the Iraq War, even if Hussein indeed had WMDs. And Bush acted on the hawkish national sentiment while the getting was good.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Unfortunately, not everyone in the world has. You can take the moral high road and "21st Century" diplomacy all you want, but if you can't get through to your geopolitical foe, it won't amount to a hill of beans.
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Well, it sounds good in TV clips.
 
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Burhead said:
Saw today that Russia is planning to reopen a military on the Finnish border and that Russians jets also buzzed Georgian air space as well.
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Well, darnnit'! Let's reopen a base on the Canadian or Mexican bordesr. Or even make a military base somewhere near the Bering Strait. Then let some of our F-16s, F-18s, and strategic bombers buzz some Greenland airspace. By god!
 
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