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Grand Vol said:
Please don't ever run for political office. You have zero concept of the geopolitical system and how it works.
Perception is reality and if the US is not seen as a major world power, other nations will look to the remaining power brokers to fill that void. And if that means they throw in their lot with Russia because they happen to be decisive and providing that real leadership, then they accept whatever comes along with it. And when that happens, Russia gains a trading partner, hence drawing foreign currency away from our industries that would typically sell on that market.

When the international community loses faith in your ability to provide world leadership, your nation suffers economically and politically. Call it ultra-nationalistic if you like or a Cold War mentality, but it's fact.
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We already have idiots in high places such as the White house that think like him.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Your mentality of a zero sum game, where every advantage they gain is necessarily a disadvantage to us, such that we are forced to retaliate each and every time, even when our national interests are not remotely at stake, is the kind of Cold War mentality that almost annihilated the human race.

We are not the world's policeman. Do something that threatens us, or attack someone with whom we have a security agreement, then we act. But we cannot go around insinuating ourselves into every conflict, in every region, just because if we don't then someone's going to call us a wuss.
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Yesterday I was calling this model "penis muscle flexing," but I'll euphemize it today and call it "Phallic diplomacy."
 
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I find it interesting that people are linking the Keystone XL pipeline into this as a way of hurting the Russian economy. Long story short, by building the pipeline we can increase exports to the world and potentially underbid them on the world market which in turn hurts their foreign capital.

Interesting line of thinking.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I find it interesting that people are linking the Keystone XL pipeline into this as a way of hurting the Russian economy. Long story short, by building the pipeline we can increase exports to the world and potentially underbid them on the world market which in turn hurts their foreign capital.

Interesting line of thinking.
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Energy independence is key to our nations security and our allies, no surprise that Obama has put keystone on the back burner.
 
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There is allegedly 2 carriers headed to the Black Sea. Kerry was questioned about it but dodged the question.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I find it interesting that people are linking the Keystone XL pipeline into this as a way of hurting the Russian economy. Long story short, by building the pipeline we can increase exports to the world and potentially underbid them on the world market which in turn hurts their foreign capital.
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Building a pipeline isn't going to create more oil.

What difference does it make to Russia if America sells the oil to Chile or Canada sells it to China?
 
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Grand Vol said:
Please don't ever run for political office. You have zero concept of the geopolitical system and how it works.

Perception is reality and if the US is not seen as a major world power, other nations will look to the remaining power brokers to fill that void. And if that means they throw in their lot with Russia because they happen to be decisive and providing that real leadership, then they accept whatever comes along with it. And when that happens, Russia gains a trading partner, hence drawing foreign currency away from our industries that would typically sell on that market.

When the international community loses faith in your ability to provide world leadership, your nation suffers economically and politically. Call it ultra-nationalistic if you like or a Cold War mentality, but it's fact.
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Your understanding of the world is oversimplified and extremely naive.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Your mentality of a zero sum game, where every advantage they gain is necessarily a disadvantage to us
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Maybe I'm naive, but I think it possible for Ukraine (with or without Crimea) to have beneficial relationships with both the EU and Russia.

People need time to chill out.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I find it interesting that people are linking the Keystone XL pipeline into this as a way of hurting the Russian economy. Long story short, by building the pipeline we can increase exports to the world and potentially underbid them on the world market which in turn hurts their foreign capital.

Interesting line of thinking.
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Yup, that should have an effect in about 15 years. Good idea.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Seriously?



Or they sell it to Europe which is a major player in the Russian oil and gas market. See how that works?
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bypassing Russia won't be done with N American exports. That's why there was such a fight over Syria
 
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