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Pacer92 said:
I love it how people disregard and make fun of articles they don't read.

The idea that America and Freedom are synonymous is ingrained into most of Americans minds. This very idea keeps people like yourself from being able to subject your mind to anything contrary, much less, to be a critical thinker. Keep going with the flow and dismissing everything as conspiracy....that's exactly what your govt wants and works so hard at.
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I see you've apparently taking me off ignore. Maybe there is still hope for you. I keep going back and forth.

Anyhow, you lecturing any poster on critical thinking while you use articles from Pravda, Global Research, and RT Op-Edge is not a good way to evince confidence in your own critical thinking capacity.

If you want us to start taking you more seriously, I would suggest dropping the Dr. Paul Craig Dumbasses of the world and looking more to work done by such figures as Stephen Cohen and Jack Matlock. Just to name a couple. While I think Cohen waxes a bit too pro-Russian at times and while Matlock may wax a bit too anti-Putin (for your tastes) at times, they at least break down the confrontation in ways that should make you proud and indeed make us think critically.
 
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Pacer92 said:
I love it how people disregard and make fun of articles they don't read.

The idea that America and Freedom are synonymous is ingrained into most of Americans minds. This very idea keeps people like yourself from being able to subject your mind to anything contrary, much less, to be a critical thinker. Keep going with the flow and dismissing everything as conspiracy....that's exactly what your govt wants and works so hard at.
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Here:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmP513n78YE[/youtube]
 
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Velo Vol said:
Oh? You can be our on-the-ground correspondent in Donbass. Monitor the ceasefire zone. We can't trust the MSM.
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thankfully not going anywhere near there, in Germany until I leave on the 23rd. I can happily say our American MSM is doing good work over here, Ukraine isn't much of a story over here either. Blurb about Merkel in Moscow, article on OSCE and that's been it really. Oh and the German populace really doesn't like Putin, not necasirly Russia but definitely not Putin. There is a saying they use here which is the equivalent of our "I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him". But more directly translates to: he will hang us all with as much leash as we will give him.
 
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Pacer92 said:
I love it how people disregard and make fun of articles they don't read.

The idea that America and Freedom are synonymous is ingrained into most of Americans minds. This very idea keeps people like yourself from being able to subject your mind to anything contrary, much less, to be a critical thinker. Keep going with the flow and dismissing everything as conspiracy....that's exactly what your govt wants and works so hard at.
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This is exactly the stuff I wish I could point out while gone. In my post I talk about reading your articles and in your post you claim I don't read them. This is exactly the level of mistakes your articles make. They cant get over simple hurdles about keeping their stories straight or whether or not they are quoting the prohistory Putin or the Putin who ignores and changes history. To put it another way if they can't get 1+1 right why should I trust their calculus? Pointing out these simple mistakes is where I excel because I don't have enough time to research the rest of their allegations, and when I do the only links are tied to the original article.
 
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With our thread's matron saint and spiritual head, Holy Mother Victoria Nuland in Moscow, Dizzy in eastern Ukraine creating facts on the ground, and Louder in Berlin to force Germany's hand, it seems our plans for American world domination are coming along just nicely.

Speaking of which, what do you guys think will be the outcome of our Holy Mother Nuland's visit to Moscow? Will it just be a coup or will we finally be capable of dividing that nation and plundering its resources?
 
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volprof said:
Holy Mother Victoria Nuland in Moscow
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Amazing multitasking that she can pull this off en route to Russia.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeFq1LCAz-U[/youtube]


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Pacer92 said:
South Front. - News of Novorossia, Ukraine, Russia
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And this evidence is/was? When has Ukraine performed terrorist activities against donbas in the past? What would it gain? Killing people it claims as its own isn't going to make them want to rejoin. And it doesn't seem like Ukraine would do it out of spite considering people still crossing into Ukraine. I am willing to bet this is cover up for info on terrorist attacks by real terrorists. If the donbas wants to lie with dogs it shouldn't be surprised when they get fleas
 
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LouderVol said:
And this evidence is/was? When has Ukraine performed terrorist activities against donbas in the past? What would it gain? Killing people it claims as its own isn't going to make them want to rejoin. And it doesn't seem like Ukraine would do it out of spite considering people still crossing into Ukraine. I am willing to bet this is cover up for info on terrorist attacks by real terrorists. If the donbas wants to lie with dogs it shouldn't be surprised when they get fleas
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This is my point exactly. Terrorist attacks against the people of the Donbass go unreported in western media, so of course this is going to be your reaction.
 
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Pacer92 said:
In short, I don't blame them. What's it going to take for America and their western cronies to back off? They are being suffocated in every way possible..
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This reminds me of Captain Kirk's response to General Chang's comment, "We need breathing room!!"
 
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Pacer92 said:
In short, I don't blame them. What's it going to take for America and their western cronies to back off? They are being suffocated in every way possible..
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Seems to me that all Russia has been doing since 2008 is expanding its borders.

Russia must like being closer to NATO and Western-sympathizing nations for all Russian leaders drone on about threats from NATO and the West.

On a serious note, have you listened to either Stephen Cohen or Jack Matlock yet? Plenty of their talks on YouTube. They're a lot better and much more insightful than Pravda or Sputnik.

I agree with a lot they have to say, although Cohen gets a bit too loopy for my tastes at times.
 
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volprof said:
Russia needs some living space. 1/8th the world's landmass is suffocating to them.
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They could expand into Siberia, but that would involve digging up the millions of innocent victims buried there by the Communists that Putin once proudly served under.
 
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MG1968 said:
They could expand into Siberia, but that would involve digging up the millions of innocent victims buried there by the Communists that Putin once proudly served under.
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Well, they've already proven they don't care about Holodomor so why would Siberia be any different?
 
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Velo Vol said:
Terrorist/terrorism is a word that has really been dumbed down.
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Kind of like term "genocide." Used way too much these days.

And I find how some people are starting to use the term "racism" a bit startling. When I am hearing radio talk show callers (granted it's sports talk) saying such things as "That's racist towards women," or "That's racist towards Christians," I know we've turned a corner in this country.

On a completely different not, all is not well in space these days:

Falling to Earth: Is Russia's Space Industry Dying? | The National Interest Blog
 
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