Rasputin_Vol
"Slava Ukraina"
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Dear God. I suppose Hitler was left with no choice either except to kill the Jews after they ruined Germany. Gtfo out with that. We aren't allowed to say who we trade with? We aren't allowed to say no to an empire which had been killing the Chinese in droves? Considering your support of Russia I can actually believe you seeing pearl harbor being our fault. You know we acted on the intelligence we had right? Battleships were useless and the same result would have happened in an open water battle. But instead of surprise attack that rallied a nation it would have been a demoralizing defeat, which likely would have cost us our carriers too. Japan had planned on invading, our carriers were reserved to deal with that. The only reason yamato called it off was because he was spooked that our carriers weren't there. And that's ignoring the fact that we rushed an extra carrier in from San Diego to the middle of the pacific (damn big ocean) on month old Intel after the worlds strongest navy up and disappeared, no radio contact for weeks in that day in age is better than any stealth we now have. On that Intel our naval high command left the western seaboard wide open even after the auletians (alaska) got invaded by the japs. Do some freaking reading before you go anti american. I don't mind the crap with Russia because at least you don't have the benefit of 20/20 hindsight and do have a good point once in a blue moon but this is just ridiculous. Japan was at complete fault and the military knew they were waking the bear, yamatk begged not to goad us, but when he was forced he decided the only way he could was if he went all out and took us out of the pacific war in one sucker Punch ch, which he almost did.
Instead of listening to naval advisers that highlighted the multiple deficiencies of Pearl Harbor and the port's vulnerability to a Japanese attack, FDR decided to leave the fleet their like sitting ducks and sacrifice 2000 lives in the hopes of drumming up public support for war.
Oh, and save me the rhetoric about wanting to save Chinese lives, because in the 90 or so years leading up to Pearl Harbor, Britain with the help of the US colonized China and robbed/starved millions in the Opium Wars and Boxer Rebellion... just for the sole purpose of controlling Chinese output and their ports in Shanghai and Hong Kong. But with Japan coming into the picture, the British didn't like the competition.
