TrumPutinGate

[Velo Vol]

When all else fails, follow the money.

 

[MT LeConte]

It is being reported that Donald Trump has not lied to the nation in well over twenty four hours. It is believed that this is the first such dead period for Trump since he announced his candidacy in June of 2015. There are serious concerns among his supporters that if this continues that there will be a sharp decline in hate and animosity across the country. The fear is that if left with the truth alone his Presidency is likely to collapse and take the party down with it. Several Republican Senators and Congressmen were seen leaving the Oval Office shortly after dark. Reports are that they told the President to "For God's sake, just make something up.



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[golfballs]

It is being reported that Donald Trump has not lied to the nation in well over twenty four hours. It is believed that this is the first such dead period for Trump since he announced his candidacy in June of 2015. There are serious concerns among his supporters that if this continues that there will be a sharp decline in hate and animosity across the country. The fear is that if left with the truth alone his Presidency is likely to collapse and take the party down with it. Several Republican Senators and Congressmen were seen leaving the Oval Office shortly after dark. Reports are that they told the President to "For God's sake, just make something up.



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Keep us posted. God speed

 

[DC_Vol]

It is being reported that Donald Trump has not lied to the nation in well over twenty four hours. It is believed that this is the first such dead period for Trump since he announced his candidacy in June of 2015. There are serious concerns among his supporters that if this continues that there will be a sharp decline in hate and animosity across the country. The fear is that if left with the truth alone his Presidency is likely to collapse and take the party down with it. Several Republican Senators and Congressmen were seen leaving the Oval Office shortly after dark. Reports are that they told the President to "For God's sake, just make something up.

Donald Trump is in your head 24/7. I think you could use another three month breather.

 

[volprof]

opcorn:

Well, it seems I have been wrong all along.

Thank you, golfballs, for setting me straight.

Nothing to see here anymore, folks; just ignore this thread from now on.

I'm now ready to make America great again.

 

[volprof]

Remember, countrymen, we never know about Watergate - an event that really happened - if not for a snooping media and for a renegade FBI agent, the latter acting only out of selfish motivations and no noble cause (but a nation of beggars couldn't be choosers).

Take courage, exercise patience, and, as my good friend, Velo said earlier, follow the money.

 

[volprof]

Mensch is claiming she has likely found the true identity of Guccifer 2.0, one of the hackers suspected in the DNC hacks and the likely associate of Roger Stone, who he references on public record.

If we can somehow get his arrest and extradition, which are both unlikely, this could be another huge step in Americans learning the truth about this fake presidency.

 

[Sin City Vol]

I've been in IT for over 20 years.

I've actually run at least a dozen personal webservers over that time, and I couldn't tell you who did or did not connect to those servers.

Do you actually believe that Russia is technical enough to hack our election, but stupid enough to not know what a reverse-DNS lookup is?

Just because your LG's secretary doesn't make you an expert in IT

 

[Velo Vol]

If we can somehow get his arrest and extradition, which are both unlikely, this could be another huge step in Americans learning the truth about this fake presidency.

Is he in Russia? He can be seatmates on the flight over with Snowden.

 

[Velo Vol]

One wonders who Bahrara might have been investigating in NYC.

 

[volprof]

One wonders who Bahrara might have been investigating in NYC.

Indeed.

Granted, it was just one source (and I can't recall from where - one of my nightly break time readings), but it claimed he was currently working on a case tied to a Russian mobster (not necessarily to do with Trump, although I imagine he was implicated by extension, since Trump is in bed with practically the entire NYC Russian mob).

The two most interesting developments in this case may very well be Trump's twitter rant last Saturday, coupled with these mass firings a week later. Nothing necessarily unusual about these firings (Clinton did something similar), but the timing is everything.

I've never been more confident that the trail is hot. Hot as a wildfire that can be seen from space.

 

[volprof]

Is he in Russia? He can be seatmates on the flight over with Snowden.

I'm not sure where he is, although the claim was always that he was Romanian.

Clearly, just a front for a GRU agent.

The name is Petr Chayanov. As wild as Mensch's claims can seem, she keeps being right, like months ahead of the mainstream media. She has always claimed Sessions was in on it all, a claim even I was incredulous of, but then two months or so later, it comes out that Sessions had contacts (which he lied about under oath, and now evidently, everyone has just let slide) with Russians.

Speaking of Mensch, she is really going after Bharara hard this afternoon. I'm confused.

 

[volprof]

Painter is right. You can "But the Deep State!" all you want, but, at the end of the day, the real fear lies plain before our eyes:

Bush ethics lawyer on Trump-Russia ties: 'KGB agents running around the West Wing' | TheHill

 

[Velo Vol]

Huh, if we're getting into hacked communications and such this is interesting.

Ukrainian attorney calls for probe into text message claims that Paul Manafort 'knowingly' had people killed

A Ukrainian human rights lawyer has reportedly requested an investigation into what appear to be text message conversations between Paul Manafort's daughters suggesting their President Trump-connected father had a hand in the bloody mass killings carried out by Ukrainian security forces in 2014.

 

[volprof]

Huh, if we're getting into hacked communications and such this is interesting.

Ukrainian attorney calls for probe into text message claims that Paul Manafort 'knowingly' had people killed

One of the wilder claims made in this whole scandal, but the whole thing - all of it together and not just the one part - stinks to high heaven.

How we haven't gotten legal movement yet, I do not know. But I'm remaining optimistic, until further notice. Upon further notice, it will be time to panic, because that will mean that nearly our entire government is nothing but a money-making scheme for no matter who presides in the White House.

While I know much corruption exists and reform is needed, I refuse to believe it is this bad.

 

[AirVol]

One wonders who Bahrara might have been investigating in NYC.

Reckon Obama told Bahrara to prosecute D'Souza for making the anti Obama film?

 

[Orangedogsrule]

One of the wilder claims made in this whole scandal, but the whole thing - all of it together and not just the one part - stinks to high heaven.

How we haven't gotten legal movement yet, I do not know. But I'm remaining optimistic, until further notice. Upon further notice, it will be time to panic, because that will mean that nearly our entire government is nothing but a money-making scheme for no matter who presides in the White House.

While I know much corruption exists and reform is needed, I refuse to believe it is this bad.

It is

 

[volprof]

You know, I was just thinking, your "ObamaGate" threads of the world come and go; get hot a little while then extinguish.

But TrumPutin Gate thread just keeps rolling right along.

Makes you wonder why.

 

[AirVol]

You know, I was just thinking, your "ObamaGate" threads of the world come and go; get hot a little while then extinguish.

But TrumPutin Gate thread just keeps rolling right along.

Makes you wonder why.

Because you hate Trump and love Putin?

 

[volprof]

Because you hate Trump and love Putin?

At this point, I think those two terms - Trump and Putin - are inclusive.

We have Hannity selling out the nation for his little political narrative that the CIA is out to get us all and prevent Trump's reforms, just so he can aid Putin more.

I think the writing is pretty much on the wall for you and your cult.

But again, as I cautioned earlier, if nothing comes of this, it's time to panic. Because it's clear to anyone with a brain at this point that there is something nefarious going on here.

And I caution again, that Watergate never goes exposed, had it not been for a free press (which your dictator despises, and for good reason) and for the admittedly selfish leaks of one FBI agent.

 

[Vol737]

Reckon Obama told Bahrara to prosecute D'Souza for making the anti Obama film?

I was surprised by this move. My understanding was Bahrara was a pit bull when it came to corruption. Part of why the FBI wanted to get Hillary's email case moved down to the Southern district court in NY (which I believe is where he was) but never could because of Lynch.

 

[Burger]

I laugh at the fact that some people think Putin is a problem for us. While we have a whole political spectrum around the world taking away Sovereignty in free countries, passing laws that censor speech, pass laws that make spying citizens legal, and promote the censorship of ideas.

These globalist forces want to abolish the nation state by making the UN way more powerful. That's a much bigger threat than Putin can ever be.

 

[volprof]

I laugh at the fact that some people think Putin is a problem for us. While we have a whole political spectrum around the world taking away Sovereignty in free countries, passing laws that censor speech, pass laws that make spying citizens legal, and promote the censorship of ideas.

These globalist forces want to abolish the nation state by making the UN way more powerful. That's a much bigger threat than Putin can ever be.

Yes, Putin, a man who allows hardly any free press, has journalists murdered, and who wants to see the downfall of the entire West is really just concerned about keeping Western values in tact.

You truly are a "populist libertarian," as you once described yourself to me. Only that can account for this level of dissonance.

 

[Burger]

Yes, Putin, a man who allows hardly any free press, has journalists murdered, and who wants to see the downfall of the entire West is really just concerned about keeping Western values in tact.

You truly are a "populist libertarian," as you once described yourself to me. Only that can account for this level of dissonance.

It's funny that Putin is the main one fighting a religious group who wants to take down Western Civilization while Merkel and Co. want to let them in. Putin is also one of the populist leaders fighting for the nation state against the global elite, which is why he would want to take down The Clintons.

We should focus on a bigger threat, the global elite.

 

[volprof]

It's funny that Putin is the main one fighting a religious group who wants to take down Western Civilization while Merkel and Co. want to let them in. Putin is also one of the populist leaders fighting for the nation state against the global elite, which is why he would want to take down The Clintons.

We should focus on a bigger threat, the global elite.

It's very cute that you think Putin a populist.

He's as populist as I am.

The difference between he and me, besides the obvious, is that he wants you to actually believe this nonsense.