TrumPutinGate

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Mick said:
Not verified yet:
Roger Stone, President Trump’s former campaign adviser, communicated privately with an entity directly involved in hacking the Democratic National Committee ahead of the 2016 White House race.

Roger Stone, Trump confidante, spoke privately with DNC hackers prior to election: Report - Washington Times
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This guy must have sucked at his job.

"There was no evidence whatsoever, at the time, of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians," Clapper, a retired three-star general and career intelligence officer, told ABC News' Brian Ross in an interview Monday for "World News Tonight."
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https://gma.yahoo.com/former-top-spy-chief-no-evidence-trump-campaign-114606394--abc-news-topstories.html#
 
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Well it looks like the Russia based Alfa Bank was in contact with a server inside Trump Tower and contacted that server over 2,800 times between May and September 16 of 2016.
 
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After the first Trump server was under scrutiny for communicating with the bank the server was renamed.

on Sept. 27, the Trump Organization created a new host name, trump1.contact-client.com, which enabled communication to the very same server via a different route. When a new host name is created, the first communication with it is never random. To reach the server after the resetting of the host name, the sender of the first inbound mail has to first learn of the name somehow. It’s simply impossible to randomly reach a renamed server. “That party had to have some kind of outbound message through SMS, phone, or some noninternet channel they used to communicate [the new configuration],” Paul Vixie told me. The first attempt to look up the revised host name came from Alfa Bank. “If this was a public server, we would have seen other traces,” Vixie says. “The only look-ups came from this particular source.”

Its in this article I found in October.

Was a server registered to the Trump Organization communicating with Russia’s Alfa Bank?
 
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Mick said:
After the first Trump server was under scrutiny for communicating with the bank the server was renamed.

on Sept. 27, the Trump Organization created a new host name, trump1.contact-client.com, which enabled communication to the very same server via a different route. When a new host name is created, the first communication with it is never random. To reach the server after the resetting of the host name, the sender of the first inbound mail has to first learn of the name somehow. It’s simply impossible to randomly reach a renamed server. “That party had to have some kind of outbound message through SMS, phone, or some noninternet channel they used to communicate [the new configuration],” Paul Vixie told me. The first attempt to look up the revised host name came from Alfa Bank. “If this was a public server, we would have seen other traces,” Vixie says. “The only look-ups came from this particular source.”

Its in this article I found in October.

Was a server registered to the Trump Organization communicating with Russia’s Alfa Bank?
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A few thoughts here...

Most importantly, what if trump's server was in contact with a Russian bank? There is nothing wrong with a multinational business being in contact with Russian banks, especially from a business server.

The only thing that makes that suspicious is the claim from the left that it's suspicious. You guys are getting REALLY worked up over circular reasoning.

Secondly, I'n not so sure about all those technical claims in the article.

It sounds like they are talking about DNS lookups. DNS is the IP service that translates IP addresses to human readable server names. Basically, it's like a huge internet phone book. (It's what allows you to type cnn.com into your browser without having to remember a dot-notation number that you'll never be able to remember. When you type cnn.com into the browser, DNS translates that to cnn.com's server's actually IP address, and that's the request that's made behind the scenes without you even knowing about it.)

Why is this important? Because DNS is very similar to the phone contact you have in your phone. If you already know the IP address, you can still make the call, even if the other person changes their name, carrier, phone, etc. And if you already have the IP address, you can do a reverse-lookup and get the name even if all you had was the IP address.

I SERIOUSLY doubt Trump's organization was doing something amateur like use dynamic IP addressing with a Dynamic DNS service. The professional thing to do is to have a static IP address. If that's the case, the bank could have looked up the new server name, no matter how many times Trump's business changed it, and the admins would never have had to have contact the Russian banks.

That's what DNS was invented for. So you can find that info without having to call each other.

The article lied to you.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
A few thoughts here...

Most importantly, what if trump's server was in contact with a Russian bank? There is nothing wrong with a multinational business being in contact with Russian banks, especially from a business server.

The only thing that makes that suspicious is the claim from the left that it's suspicious. You guys are getting REALLY worked up over circular reasoning.

Secondly, I'n not so sure about all those technical claims in the article.

It sounds like they are talking about DNS lookups. DNS is the IP service that translates IP addresses to human readable server names. Basically, it's like a huge internet phone book. (It's what allows you to type cnn.com into your browser without having to remember a dot-notation number that you'll never be able to remember. When you type cnn.com into the browser, DNS translates that to cnn.com's server's actually IP address, and that's the request that's made behind the scenes without you even knowing about it.)

Why is this important? Because DNS is very similar to the phone contact you have in your phone. If you already know the IP address, you can still make the call, even if the other person changes their name, carrier, phone, etc. And if you already have the IP address, you can do a reverse-lookup and get the name even if all you had was the IP address.

I SERIOUSLY doubt Trump's organization was doing something amateur like use dynamic IP addressing with a Dynamic DNS service. The professional thing to do is to have a static IP address. If that's the case, the bank could have looked up the new server name, no matter how many times Trump's business changed it, and the admins would never have had to have contact the Russian banks.

That's what DNS was invented for. So you can find that info without having to call each other.

The article lied to you.
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It shows communication with a Russian bank that Trump denies. Trump lied to you. I'm sure you have set up many servers (NOT) so just keep your ignorance to yourself.
 
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Mick said:
It shows communication with a Russian bank that Trump denies. Trump lied to you. I'm sure you have set up many servers (NOT) so just keep your ignorance to yourself.
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I've been in IT for over 20 years.

I've actually run at least a dozen personal webservers over that time, and I couldn't tell you who did or did not connect to those servers.

Do you actually believe that Russia is technical enough to hack our election, but stupid enough to not know what a reverse-DNS lookup is?
 
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Orange_Crush said:
I've been in IT for over 20 years.

I've actually run at least a dozen personal webservers over that time, and I couldn't tell you who did or did not connect to those servers.

You actually believe that Russia is technical enough to hack our election, but stupid enough to not know what a reverse-DNS lookup is?

Any more assumptions that you want to make about me and my ignorance, Cochise?
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Why can't you see what IP's are connecting to you webservers? You should be able to if you have any security setup. Once you have the public IP you can do the reverse lookup and do a traceroute to find the routers which relay the packets and determine the location of the origination request.

Sorry for the assumption but it seemed like you just researched DNS.
 
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Mick said:
Why can't you see what IP's are connecting to you webservers? You should be able to if you have any security setup. Once you have the public IP you can do the reverse lookup and do a traceroute to find the routers which relay the packets and determine the location of the origination request.
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You can do it a lot easier than that. It just depends what logging you have on your servers and firewalls. The thing about logging is that you have to find a happy medium with them. What to log/save verses drive space. So, you generally don't save every contact that server has. And you'll waste all your time reading log files in real time just to see who is connecting.

I still couldn't tell you who connected to my webservers, and I was the webmaster. What makes you think the president and CEO of Trump Enterprises was micromanaging to see who was hitting a web server?

And again... Except for the claims from the left that it's suspicious, what is inherently suspicious about mutinational Trump Enterprises business servers being contacted by Russian Financial institutions?
 
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Orange_Crush said:
You can do it a lot easier than that. It just depends what logging you have on your servers and firewalls. The thing about logging is that you have to find a happy medium with them. What to log/save verses drive space. So, you generally don't save every contact that server has. And you'll waste all your time reading log files in real time just to see who is connecting.

I still couldn't tell you who connected to my webservers, and I was the webmaster. What makes you think the president and CEO of Trump Enterprises was micromanaging to see who was hitting a web server?

And again... Except for the claims from the left that it's suspicious, what is inherently suspicious about mutinational Trump Enterprises business servers being contacted by Russian Financial institutions?
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Wow I cant believe we have something in common except I never did webpages. My experiences are with servers and routers. The firewall logs are a pain to go through but with proper updates they usually run pretty smooth and alert you when something fishy is going on.

This does not prove anything except that there is a link between Trump and russia and if it was normal business there would be no need to rename the server and ultimately disconnect all together.
 
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Mick said:
Wow I cant believe we have something in common except I never did webpages. My experiences are with servers and routers. The firewall logs are a pain to go through but with proper updates they usually run pretty smooth and alert you when something fishy is going on.

This does not prove anything except that there is a link between Trump and russia and if it was normal business there would be not need to rename the server and ultimately disconnect all together.
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I'm not sure anything fishy went on. And I don't know why they changed the host name, or eventually took it offline.

You don't either.

If you are in IT and admin servers, I didn't need to tell you any of this, and I find it odd that you took the article at face value, claiming that Trump's organization would have had to personally give the Russian bank the new hostname; that that's the only way they could have possibly gotten the new hostname.


Appearances are that you just want to believe trump is dirty.

Have a nice day. Since you're an IT server admin, I don't need to post any more technical info for you, so, I'll just move along now.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
I'm not sure anything fishy went on. And I don't know why they changed the host name, or eventually took it offline.

You don't either.

If you are in IT and admin servers, I didn't need to tell you any of this, and I find it odd that you took the article at face value, claiming that Trump's organization would have had to personally give the Russian bank the new hostname; that that's the only way they could have possibly gotten the new hostname.


Appearances are that you just want to believe trump is dirty.

Have a nice day. Since you're an IT server admin, I don't need to post any more technical info for you, so, I'll just move along now.
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Was a good chat. Like we discovered earlier we look at the political environment through different perspectives.
 
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While this information was out there, the incompetent DNC and news outlets could only talk about pu**ygate thinking the women's vote would easily put them over the top.
 
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A huge part of the problem here is that the Trump administration's story keeps changing.

"No one on the campaign had contact with Russia, at all."

It is discovered that Manaforte had plenty of them.

"Ok, right, forgot about that. But he was off the campaign a long time ago. And those were the only contacts."

It is discovered that Flynn had plenty of contact with and even negotiated with Russian contacts.

"Crap. Well, that's true, but we fired him. Absolutely no other contacts than those, we promise."

It is discovered that Sessions had contacts with Russian ambassador.

"Oh, come on. That was a chance meeting."

It is discovered it was not a chance meeting, by any means.

"He is recusing himself. And he has been put in a room way in the basement and you will not see him now for awhile to ask him any embarrassing questions. But we swear, absolutely swear, that's all the contacts there were."

Evidence of other contacts, meetings with officials, phone calls, and even Trump business interests now with ties to Russian banks and officials.

"I support the House bill to repeal Obamacare and that scoundrel Obama was bugging my phone!"


Seriously, this is why it stinks to high heaven at this point. They never admit anything, they deny everything, until caught red handed. Then deflect.
 
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