TrumpPutingate III: the beginning of the end

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Trump needs to pardon Flynn

Yeah, he probably did not lie. And if he did, it was about nothing criminal, and he had no legal representation present when discredited and demoted Strozk interviewed him.

Mueller and the other Weissman thugs probably squeezed and threatened Flynn's son, to try to get him to roll on Trump.
 
It seems to be some of you guys that are having the problem with evillawyer's comment that he looks beyond his own selfish self-interest.

Some people have more selfish self-interest than others and that leads to differing considerations when placing one's vote. I'm sure we would all agree.

I'm all for helping people who need help. I'm not for helping people whose biggest problem is they have no desire to help themselves. The Democrats fail to discern the difference between the two, just freely letting people live of the government teat. I'm sorry, I just don't see how that benefits the country. That's not charity, imo. It's not a selfless act. And I certainly don't believe the Dems do it in a selfless fashion. They do it to garner votes. "Vote for us! We give you free ****!"

And immigration? I'll never understand defending those who enter the country illegally. You guys scream that Trump is breaking laws, yet defend illegal immigrants. You understand illegal means they broke the law, right? There is a proper way to come to this country, a legal way. If you can't respect our laws enough to enter the country in that way, why would we, as a country, expect you to respect our laws and follow them once here? And please, don't defend it as a selfless act, because once again, it's just Democrats trying to garner votes.

Honestly, and I may get heat for expressing this, but it's like Democrats are telling the world laws only apply to white people. If you're an illegal immigrant, or a minority, well, laws are more like suggestions, not something you actually have to adhere to. Democrats perpetuate animosity and hatred and racism to further their agenda. I'm not saying racism doesn't exist, but we're not living in the 1960's anymore where it ran rampant. You can't tell that by watching the news, though, where every other story blames racism. Personal responsibility for actions no longer exists, it must be racism.
 
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From the picture in Business Insider today, his spray tan is fading and you can tell pretty clearly that he does have rosacea. I still think it's silly for a man his age to use a spray tan but at least I understand why he does it now. He is trying to cover that up.

I'm sorry, but what in the hell does this have to do with anything of consequence?
 
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From the picture in Business Insider today, his spray tan is fading and you can tell pretty clearly that he does have rosacea. I still think it's silly for a man his age to use a spray tan but at least I understand why he does it now. He is trying to cover that up.
Glad you approve of his reasoning. He is a problem solver.
 
I'm all for helping people who need help. I'm not for helping people whose biggest problem is they have no desire to help themselves. The Democrats fail to discern the difference between the two, just freely letting people live of the government teat. I'm sorry, I just don't see how that benefits the country. That's not charity, imo. It's not a selfless act. And I certainly don't believe the Dems do it in a selfless fashion. They do it to garner votes. "Vote for us! We give you free ****!"

And immigration? I'll never understand defending those who enter the country illegally. You guys scream that Trump is breaking laws, yet defend illegal immigrants. You understand illegal means they broke the law, right? There is a proper way to come to this country, a legal way. If you can't respect our laws enough to enter the country in that way, why would we, as a country, expect you to respect our laws and follow them once here? And please, don't defend it as a selfless act, because once again, it's just Democrats trying to garner votes.

Honestly, and I may get heat for expressing this, but it's like Democrats are telling the world laws only apply to white people. If you're an illegal immigrant, or a minority, well, laws are more like suggestions, not something you actually have to adhere to. Democrats perpetuate animosity and hatred and racism to further their agenda. I'm not saying racism doesn't exist, but we're not living in the 1960's anymore where it ran rampant. You can't tell that by watching the news, though, where every other story blames racism. Personal responsibility for actions no longer exists, it must be racism.
I have 4 or 5 charities that I give to yearly, but I always tell them to help white folks only.
 
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These kinds of **** comments are why our country is so polarized today.

Some of the polarization may be due to things like this....

Trump claims he succeeded where Obama failed in getting North Korea to release US prisoners - even though two were jailed on his watch | The Independent

“As everybody is aware, the past Administration has long been asking for three hostages to be released from a North Korean Labor camp, but to no avail,” he wrote. “Stay tuned!”

Only one of the American citizens, Kim Dong-chul, has been in custody since before the Republican’s election. The two others, Kim Hak-song and Tony Kim, were detained after last spring as tensions between the US and North Korea ramped up.

Trump and everyone in his camp knows the tweet is a lie with no purpose other than to demonize a former president, but Trump nor anyone on his staff has apologized for or removed the tweet.
 
Some of the polarization may be due to things like this....

Trump claims he succeeded where Obama failed in getting North Korea to release US prisoners - even though two were jailed on his watch | The Independent

“As everybody is aware, the past Administration has long been asking for three hostages to be released from a North Korean Labor camp, but to no avail,” he wrote. “Stay tuned!”

Only one of the American citizens, Kim Dong-chul, has been in custody since before the Republican’s election. The two others, Kim Hak-song and Tony Kim, were detained after last spring as tensions between the US and North Korea ramped up.

Trump and everyone in his camp knows the tweet is a lie with no purpose other than to demonize a former president, but Trump nor anyone on his staff has apologized for or removed the tweet.


Dang it!

Pesky true facts!
 
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Some of the polarization may be due to things like this....

Trump claims he succeeded where Obama failed in getting North Korea to release US prisoners - even though two were jailed on his watch | The Independent

“As everybody is aware, the past Administration has long been asking for three hostages to be released from a North Korean Labor camp, but to no avail,” he wrote. “Stay tuned!”

Only one of the American citizens, Kim Dong-chul, has been in custody since before the Republican’s election. The two others, Kim Hak-song and Tony Kim, were detained after last spring as tensions between the US and North Korea ramped up.

Trump and everyone in his camp knows the tweet is a lie with no purpose other than to demonize a former president, but Trump nor anyone on his staff has apologized for or removed the tweet.

He's said things that are much more polarizing than that. Pretty lame example.
 
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He's said things that are much more polarizing than that. Pretty lame example.

True. That was just an example of an intentional lie meant to misinform and propagandize his followers into even greater dislike of Obama. The fact he feels no need to apologize or even remove the tweet speaks more loudly to his view of his followers than to Trump himself.
 
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Dang it!

Pesky true facts!

Sometimes your hypocrisy leaves me in stitches. Facts never seem to matter to you when it's a Democrat lying. You have no consistency with your outrage. It makes it damn near impossible to ever take you serious.
 
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True. That was just an example of an intentional lie meant to misinform and propagandize his followers into even greater dislike of Obama. The fact he feels no need to apologize or even remove the tweet speaks more loudly to his view of his followers than to Trump himself.

If you're aware of everything he tweets, doesn't that make you one of his followers? Never tweeted myself, never have followed tweets. So I claim no expertise. But I thought you had to follow someone to see their tweets? Is that incorrect?
 
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True. That was just an example of an intentional lie meant to misinform and propagandize his followers into even greater dislike of Obama. The fact he feels no need to apologize or even remove the tweet speaks more loudly to his view of his followers than to Trump himself.

Can we impeach over un-deleted tweets? Asking for a friend.
 
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If you're aware of everything he tweets, doesn't that make you one of his followers? Never tweeted myself, never have followed tweets. So I claim no expertise. But I thought you had to follow someone to see their tweets? Is that incorrect?

Not on twitter myself. Saw it in an article (I do like to read).

How to you like this specific tweet and the underlying implications?
 
if you're aware of everything he tweets, doesn't that make you one of his followers? Never tweeted myself, never have followed tweets. So i claim no expertise. But i thought you had to follow someone to see their tweets? Is that incorrect?

lol
 
If you're aware of everything he tweets, doesn't that make you one of his followers? Never tweeted myself, never have followed tweets. So I claim no expertise. But I thought you had to follow someone to see their tweets? Is that incorrect?

No, you don't have to follow the person to see their Tweets. It's unlike Facebook in that regard.
 
Not on twitter myself. Saw it in an article (I do like to read).

How to you like this specific tweet and the underlying implications?

Are you asking if I like lying? The answer to that is of course not. But does it truly bother me when a politician lies? No it doesn't. I've come to expect it. Doesn't matter if it's a D or and R next to the name, when a politician opens his/her mouth, I expect that I'm being fed BS. It's why I hate politics in general.

Now, do you feel it's okay and acceptable when a Dem lies? Do you get just as outraged at them as you do Trump? Honestly curious, are you angry at Trump for lying, or are you angry at Trump for being a Republican? I honestly don't remember you, or LG, or other left leaning posters getting anywhere near this upset about lying when it was Democrats doing it, so forgive me for questioning why it's now such a big deal in your opinion. Sure seems like it's more about party affiliation than the actual lying itself.
 
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Trump needs to pardon Flynn

Please do it. Do you think Flynn held anything back from Mueller? Still won't keep Flynn from testifying but go ahead and pardon him. You will change your tune once he is on the witness stand.
 
Are you asking if I like lying? The answer to that is of course not. But does it truly bother me when a politician lies? No it doesn't. I've come to expect it. Doesn't matter if it's a D or and R next to the name, when a politician opens his/her mouth, I expect that I'm being fed BS. It's why I hate politics in general.

Now, do you feel it's okay and acceptable when a Dem lies? Do you get just as outraged at them as you do Trump? Honestly curious, are you angry at Trump for lying, or are you angry at Trump for being a Republican? I honestly don't remember you, or LG, or other left leaning posters getting anywhere near this upset about lying when it was Democrats doing it, so forgive me for questioning why it's now such a big deal in your opinion. Sure seems like it's more about party affiliation than the actual lying itself.

With me, there is some party affiliation hypocrisy...it's inevitable. I once said it's like if you're a football coach and there is offensive holding on every pass play. If it's your guy doing the holding, you talk to him quietly on the sideline, it it's the opposing team doing the holding, you're screaming at the refs and loudly pointing out the infraction at every opportunity.

What I do believe with absolute unbiased certainty is that we have never had a president lie with the frequency and to the magnitude of Trump. His motives are damaging to the long term prosperity of the US.
 
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