Troy Calhoun (merged)

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#151
Illinois Hokie said:
What if Calhoun gets hired, he installs the triple option at UT...and it works? It would be funny to see what the people making anti-Calhoun statements are saying then.

Paul Johnson installed the triple option at Georgia Tech and won the conference in two years. (Yeah, I know, it's the ACC...) Georgia Tech will never be a contender for a national title, but that's not because of their offense. Their defense is suspect, and to be successful running the flexbone you have to have a great defense. That's the formula Nebraska rode to success for years under Osborne, and Tennessee has the defense to be able to replicate that success.

The one advantage a triple option brings is that no one in the major conferences see it anymore, so you automatically have the advantage of surprise. It's hella tough to run with your scout team, and defending it goes against the grain of what college defenses have been doing for the last decade.

It might not be that exciting to watch, but I'm guessing if Tennessee managed 10 wins running it then all this triple option griping would fade pretty quickly...
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Yes it is, you can't win with it if the other team has three weeks to prepare. This is a moot point, Calhoun won't run it here.
 
#152
#152
Calhoun was 9-3 at the Air Force Academy in 2007. He beat Utah(20-12), TCU(20-17), and Notre Dame(41-24). The man can coach.
 
#154
#154
Illinois Hokie said:
What if Calhoun gets hired, he installs the triple option at UT...and it works? It would be funny to see what the people making anti-Calhoun statements are saying then.

Paul Johnson installed the triple option at Georgia Tech and won the conference in two years. (Yeah, I know, it's the ACC...) Georgia Tech will never be a contender for a national title, but that's not because of their offense. Their defense is suspect, and to be successful running the flexbone you have to have a great defense. That's the formula Nebraska rode to success for years under Osborne, and Tennessee has the defense to be able to replicate that success.

The one advantage a triple option brings is that [I]no one[/I] in the major conferences see it anymore, so you automatically have the advantage of surprise. It's hella tough to run with your scout team, and defending it goes against the grain of what college defenses have been doing for the last decade.
It might not be that exciting to watch, but I'm guessing if Tennessee managed 10 wins running it then all this triple option griping would fade pretty quickly...
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Tech wouldn't contend for a national title with any defense. Offense isn't good enough to win all the games needed. Hmmmmm... Wonder why no one runs it any more. If the offense is so good and effective why in God's creation do no offensive minds run it... It is a high school offense. I mean give me a break, Paul Johnson doesn't even have a play calling sheet because it is so pathetic. Tech would at best win 8 a year in the SEC.
 
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Illinois Hokie said:
What if Calhoun gets hired, he installs the triple option at UT...and it works? It would be funny to see what the people making anti-Calhoun statements are saying then.

Paul Johnson installed the triple option at Georgia Tech and won the conference in two years. (Yeah, I know, it's the ACC...) Georgia Tech will never be a contender for a national title, but that's not because of their offense. Their defense is suspect, and to be successful running the flexbone you have to have a great defense. That's the formula Nebraska rode to success for years under Osborne, and Tennessee has the defense to be able to replicate that success.

The one advantage a triple option brings is that no one in the major conferences see it anymore, so you automatically have the advantage of surprise. It's hella tough to run with your scout team, and defending it goes against the grain of what college defenses have been doing for the last decade.

It might not be that exciting to watch, but I'm guessing if Tennessee managed 10 wins running it then all this triple option griping would fade pretty quickly...
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Dude, UT will not be a triple option school. We're just not that hokie.

The points that he ran pro-style offenses before are far better arguments on Calhoun's behalf.
 
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#158
ptclaus98 said:
Yes it is, you can't win with it if the other team has three weeks to prepare. This is a moot point, Calhoun won't run it here.
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The philosophy of the option is to get a lead and then grind out the clock. That can only be done with a good defense. The only team that stopped GT's rushing attack the season was Iowa. In all their other games, even the losses, they racked up stupid rushing numbers. The defense just couldn't hold their opponents. The triple option isn't designed to come back from big deficits.

I'm not saying the triple option is the answer at UT. But I am saying to dismiss it out of hand is foolish on your part.
 
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Illinois Hokie said:
The philosophy of the option is to get a lead and then grind out the clock. That can only be done with a good defense. The only team that stopped GT's rushing attack the season was Iowa. In all their other games, even the losses, they racked up stupid rushing numbers. The defense just couldn't hold their opponents. The triple option isn't designed to come back from big deficits.

I'm not saying the triple option is the answer at UT. But I am saying to dismiss it out of hand is foolish on your part.
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Please stop with the option talk. It only shows how little you know about UT football or that you're here as a vulcher trying to take pro-style recruits from us. It ain't happening at UT.

If he's hired, he'll run a pro-style offense that fits NFL bound skilled players because at UT, unlike Air Force, he can recruit the NFL-bound players needed to run it. It's that simple.
 
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utmba93 said:
Please stop with the option talk. It only shows how little you know about UT football or that you're here as a vulcher trying to take pro-style recruits from us. It ain't happening at UT.

If he's hired, he'll run a pro-style, NFL bound offense because UT, unlike Air Force, can recruit the NFL-bound players needed to run it. It's that simple.
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Mmmmm....yeah...cause that pro style thing is working out sooooooooooooo well for you lately...

It'll just be funny to see what's being said if he does install a modified option and has success with it.
 
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utvolpj said:
we're lacking a few players to run anything right now. Sorry you're having trouble understanding what a depth chart is
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Well, see, that's sort of what I was getting at too. A triple option could have some success (meaning a record over .500 next season) with the roster you guys are able to salvage from this catastrophe.

Then, as Tennessee rebuilds, Calhoun could modify the basic option package to include more shotgun, more three wide, etc. etc. etc.

I guess more than anything what I'm trying to say is that to recover from a setback this big with as little pain as possible, Tennessee is probably going to have to show some flexibility, and I'm not seeing that at ALL from a lot of these posts griping about Calhoun being the top name now.
 
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#165
GaSouVOLS said:
I find it funny for myself to see so many people claiming to bail on UT if they hire Calhoun just because he runs the triple option. Who's to say he'd bring it to UT in the first place...but I find it ironic that everyone just assumes that it won't work despite what Paul Johnson has done at Ga. Tech and what Navy has been able to sustain after he left there.

As you can tell from my name, I follow Georgia Southern and our fan base just went through the opposite of what's going on here. We ran PJ's triple option from our first football season in 1984 till 2005. In that time we became the most dominant team in 1-aa, 6 National Championships and numerous SoCon Championships. In 2006 our AD fired our coach and brought in Brian Van Gorder who scrapped the triple option and went 3-8. The next coach ran the same offense as Mike Leach and went 7-4, 6-5 and 5-6. The fans have been going nuts asking to return to the triple option.

Our new coach this year was one of PJ's assistants and we're going back to the 3-O. The fans couldn't be happier.

The 3-O works in I-A ball...it'll work in the SEC too.
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I agree...ANY offense will work if you have the right people to run it...The triple option is an exciting offense that has won more than its fair share of national titles...Hell Alabama won most of their titles using the wishbone...GT is taking over the ACC with that offense...People who say it won't work or can't work have no clue what they are talking about...People said the samr thing about UF's spread option offense too...And its won 2 national titles and had a chance at another one....Bryce Brown in the triple option would be a 2000 yard rusher and possible heisman candidate.
 
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VOLnMiami said:
I agree...ANY offense will work if you have the right people to run it...The triple option is an exciting offense that has won more than its fair share of national titles...Hell Alabama won most of their titles using the wishbone...GT is taking over the ACC with that offense...People who say it won't work or can't work have no clue what they are talking about...People said the samr thing about UF's spread option offense too...And its won 2 national titles and had a chance at another one....Bryce Brown in the triple option would be a 2000 yard rusher and possible heisman candidate.
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THANK you.
 
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#170
I don't think Calhoun is a good fit for UT.

He's an AFA grad, who served his country for 6 six years as an officer in the Air Force.

As such, he is aman of discipline and honor.

Air Force student-athletes must complete one of the nation's most demanding academic curriculums while further embedding the kind of heart and character that are a crucial foundation for service. Each cadet at the Academy must work through classes that require finishing over 140 semester hours. Strong character traits, to include respect, teamwork, courage, spirit, discipline, honesty and toughness, are the bedrock for their leadership qualities on active duty. Calhoun and his staff have found a way to parlay the varied demands of their players into a cohesive team on the field that has fared quite well in his first three seasons as head coach.

I appears Calhoun has the kind of character that UT doesn't look for in a coach (Google: Lane Kiffin)

I can see where these qualities would not be a good fit for an SEC school.:eek:lol::eek:lol::eek:lol:
 
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CowboyCO said:
I don't think Calhoun is a good fit for UT.

He's an AFA grad, who served his country for 6 six years as an officer in the Air Force.

As such, he is aman of discipline and honor.

Air Force student-athletes must complete one of the nation's most demanding academic curriculums while further embedding the kind of heart and character that are a crucial foundation for service. Each cadet at the Academy must work through classes that require finishing over 140 semester hours. Strong character traits, to include respect, teamwork, courage, spirit, discipline, honesty and toughness, are the bedrock for their leadership qualities on active duty. Calhoun and his staff have found a way to parlay the varied demands of their players into a cohesive team on the field that has fared quite well in his first three seasons as head coach.

I appears Calhoun has the kind of character that UT doesn't look for in a coach (Google: Lane Kiffin)

I can see where these qualities would not be a good fit for an SEC school.:eek:lol::eek:lol::eek:lol:
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Those traits would be welcome by many at UT.
 
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