Trooper and former players recruiting against vols?

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ptclaus98 said:
Well Tiny still came here, so it must not have been as bad as the butthurt crew seem to make it out.
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Tiny is the source of the info and it must be that bad, or he wouldn't have said anything.
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TT is the one to blame here. He gave GW the phone number knowing what GJ would say about the way TT was "mistreated" at UT. TT is a POS!
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
This whole situation kind of sucks, but I still don't really see the reason for the outrage at GJ. Look at this situation from his perspective. If you were in his shoes wouldn't you feel like you kind of got jobbed by coming to UT and feel a little bitter towards the school? He came to school thinking he was going to be playing for an SEC legend and competing for titles, and by the end of his time here, he had endured 2 losing seasons, 3 head coaches and 5 position coaches. Sure, he wasn't the only one who went through this, but keep in mind, these are 18-21 year olds, and all of them are going to handle this type of adversity differently.

Given that he is known to have a personal friendship with TT that stretches much farther back than his relationship with anyone on the current coaching staff, I can see how this could all happen. If you really stop and think about it, what kind of loyalty was he ever shown while he was here in Knoxville such that we should expect the same from him? None. For him it was nothing more than a revolving door of coaches coming through town and leaving.

All that said, it still seems really low of him to be out there actively campaigning for recruits not to come to Knoxville, but drawing from his personal experience, I can at least understand why he might advise a kid to go elsewhere.
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First off, he did compete for a title-they made it to the SECCG his freshman year. Second, what kind of loyalty was he shown? He essentially started for 4 straight years, and for 3 different coaching staffs-so every staff gave him a shot, and rewarded his ability by STARTING him. What else were the suppossed to do-build a shrine to the greatness of Gerald and his off the cuff comments and ability to throw 3 different Qb's under the bus to the press?

There are 2 parts to this relationship. UT didn't do anything to GJ-directly. Yes, there was coaching upheaval, and a lot of it, but he can't control that anymore than he can control the weather. Staffs were fired, or left, and he kept playing, getting hurt, and then coming back and playing again. Christ-someone find me my effing violin for the guy. How it must have sucked to start for 4 seasons at the University of freaking Tennessee in the SEC.

And he repaid all of this by selling out the program. Why is this kid so angry? If he was so upset he should have transferred when Taylor left.
 
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T-TownVol said:
TT is the one to blame here. He gave GW the phone number knowing what GJ would say about the way TT was "mistreated" at UT. TT is a POS!
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Trooper, as I've said on here several times, is one of the biggest POS to ever walk a sidelines.
 
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justingroves said:
Trooper, as I've said on here several times, is one of the biggest POS to ever walk a sidelines.
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Look no farther than TT bringing a law suit against his own son's high school basketball coach over a hair style. The sideline is not the only place TT is a waste of human flesh.
 
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just a matter of time till trooper and the au program falls. Ncaa will hit them sooner or later. trooper is a piece of trash!!!
 
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Gabe Wright has caused more trouble than any other player that never played here. He's the recruit that got away, but won't go away.
 
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kohlrums said:
And he repaid all of this by selling out the program. Why is this kid so angry? If he was so upset he should have transferred when Taylor left.
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I'm not saying what he did was right, just that I can understand how a kid in his early 20's could be disillusioned by all the stuff that happened to him while he was in Knoxville. Going from being recruited to play for an SEC powerhouse under the direction of one of the winningest coaches in SEC history to playing for a losing team coached by an unproven newcomer who nobody in Knoxville had even heard of before January of last year probably took it's toll on Jones. Don't act like he started because coaches were "loyal" to him. He started because he was one of the 2-3 best receivers on the roster during each of his seasons here.

What I don't get is why everyone acts like he somehow "owes it" to UT to tell recruits that UT is an awesome place and that he had a great experience here even if that wasn't his experience at all. It sucks for him if he didn't enjoy his time playing for the Vols, but if someone asks him for his honest opinion of his experience, he shouldn't be expected to lie out of some sense of loyalty to a program that showed him no such courtesy.
 
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My point was-each coach gave him a chance, and despite what happened while he was here there is no reason to take it out on Tennessee. Things happen and you have a chance to show your character in how you deal with adversity, and if this is true than GJ can't deal with it.
 
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Volz2ThaWall said:
Said, or is it just the blind leading the blind in rumorville?
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No one knows exactly what was said, but it can be inferred from the results that Trooper Taylor set this up an Gerald Jones was less than positive about UT. Fill in the blanks from there.
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bleedorange0037 said:
I'm not saying what he did was right, just that I can understand how a kid in his early 20's could be disillusioned by all the stuff that happened to him while he was in Knoxville. Going from being recruited to play for an SEC powerhouse under the direction of one of the winningest coaches in SEC history to playing for a losing team coached by an unproven newcomer who nobody in Knoxville had even heard of before January of last year probably took it's toll on Jones. Don't act like he started because coaches were "loyal" to him. He started because he was one of the 2-3 best receivers on the roster during each of his seasons here.

What I don't get is why everyone acts like he somehow "owes it" to UT to tell recruits that UT is an awesome place and that he had a great experience here even if that wasn't his experience at all. It sucks for him if he didn't enjoy his time playing for the Vols, but if someone asks him for his honest opinion of his experience, he shouldn't be expected to lie out of some sense of loyalty to a program that showed him no such courtesy.
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I actually agree. As long as he's no longer on scholarship he has every right to tell them that. But he also needs to understand, whether right or wrong, there are consequences. If that's how it went down, the coaches nor the fans are going to want him back here again.
 
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Weezy said:
I actually agree. As long as he's no longer on scholarship he has every right to tell them that. But he also needs to understand, whether right or wrong, there are consequences. If that's how it went down, the coaches nor the fans are going to want him back here again.
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He is still on scholly.
 
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