Trade Wars and Tariffs

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Delmar said:
Wrong. Their meds will cost so much that they won’t be able to afford rinds and Mountain Dew.
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Since the vast majority of pharmaceuticals and vitamin supplements are made in China along with medical supplies etc... what's going to happen when eventually China finally goes after Taiwan and the US goes to defend it. Do you think China will continue to ship all that along with clothing and electronics to us while we're at war with each other?
 
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CagleMtnVol said:
All you on the left are convinced this is the end of everything so what happens in 6 months to a year and the US comes through it as Trump says stronger and better off as before?
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Right now I’m guessing the most logical take if the outcome is critically analyzed from a neutral bias point I’d guess the juice wasn’t worth the squeeze. Time will tell
 
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jmacvols1 said:
it looks from the chart price of 1000 board feet went from 475 to about 600 dollars

main point, Biden double tarriffs and the left said nothing.
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A targeted tariff on a single good vs increased tariffs on almost every country in the world, inhabited or not.

Yeah those are clearly the same thing
 
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Vol8188 said:
8.6% on Ford. Although if the tariffs stay, profit drops, and then the dividend likely follows
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I just didn't see any growth in the stock price though in even the mid term. If the tariffs work, maybe, but if not, it will wallow where it is. That is a tempting dividend play though just on it's own.
 
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utvolpj said:
A targeted tariff on a single good vs
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and ****ed an entire industry that was booming.
An industry that’s just now picking up steam again. Will Trump prevent the rebound from competition? That remains to be seen but Trump being stupid now doesn’t erase Bidens 17-18% inflation in 3 years. We never came back from that either.
You usual hacks were busy telling everyone how great the economy was. And they gave us Trump as a result.

This ******** falls on a lot of people.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
I just didn't see any growth in the stock price though in even the mid term. If the tariffs work, maybe, but if not, it will wallow where it is. That is a tempting dividend play though just on it's own.
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My thoughts are if the tariffs return to something close to reasonable you’ll see it around 9.5 to 10 where it was before. That’s why I’d make the move. In the meantime you have the dividend as an option to help offset some of the time value lost Incase you have to hold
 
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CagleMtnVol said:
All you on the left are convinced this is the end of everything so what happens in 6 months to a year and the US comes through it as Trump says stronger and better off as before?
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If Trump is right he will come out smelling like a rose, as the saying goes.

So far, he smells like Indian food in a used diaper, to borrow a phrase from Anchorman.

And the timeframe matters. The worry is that he and his minions will insist, as we are in the second or third quarter of recession, that recovery is always just around the corner...
 
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lawgator1 said:
If Trump is right he will come out smelling like a rose, as the saying goes.

So far, he smells like Indian food in a used diaper, to borrow a phrase from Anchorman.

And the timeframe matters. The worry is that he and his minions will insist, as we are in the second or third quarter of recession, that recovery is always just around the corner...
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Just like this election that brought us Trump. They can say the economy is great but people know what they’re feeling. If this doesn’t work out for Trump the the next election will swing back the other way.


Maybe one day one of the swings will bring us something new.
 
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Having thought about these tariffs, I come down to this:

Everyone against Trump's tariffs say they are "bad." Everyone for Trump's tariffs say they are "good."

The truth is, all Trump is doing is messing with the degrees of tariffs. Tariffs existed before Trump. If they are bad now, why weren't people crowing about tariffs before Trump? Similarly, high tariffs are good now, why do we ever want to lower them in negotiations?

I believe tariffs to only be beneficial and effective when applied to nascent industries. Otherwise, for established industry, I do not like tariffs and wish we could have "free trade," as I believe that best for the consumer. However, I also understand the US can't be the only country in the world following such policy, so we must have tariffs if other countries do.

None of us know how this will play out. All of us should hope that it ends up well. Unfortunately, Left wants Trump to fail, period, even if it hurts Americans. Their opposition is to the person implementing the tariffs, not the policy itself. That is a dangerous, self-destructive mentality.

Sadly, where that leaves us is that, even in the event tariffs are successful (which they will not be, though trade negotiations based off the threat or implementation of the tariffs may be), and American businesses and industries boom, all we will hear about is how "middle America" got crushed by Trump and his "Wall Street Cronies" once again.

Lather, rinse, repeat.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Just like this election that brought us Trump. They can say the economy is great but people know what they’re feeling. If this doesn’t work out for Trump the the next election will swing back the other way.


Maybe one day one of the swings will bring us something new.
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This is new.

And Trump defenders looooovvvveeeee to say this is what he promised. To which I reply absolutely not. He gave people no idea he'd do something this calamitously dramatic. Had he done so, and told people the truth about what he planned, I doubt he'd have had a chance.
 
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Ritzwatch said:
Having thought about these tariffs, I come down to this:

Everyone against Trump's tariffs say they are "bad." Everyone for Trump's tariffs say they are "good."
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Disagree. Many Republicans are saying that these tariffs, to this degree, are absurd and stupid. And you are starting to see that attitude now even among Trump supporters.
 
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CagleMtnVol said:
Since the vast majority of pharmaceuticals and vitamin supplements are made in China along with medical supplies etc... what's going to happen when eventually China finally goes after Taiwan and the US goes to defend it. Do you think China will continue to ship all that along with clothing and electronics to us while we're at war with each other?
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Over half of all active pharmaceutical ingredients sold in the US are produced in he US.
 
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