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Orangeslice13 said:
It’s time for construction guys to put an end to this ****!!!
We’re not building anything until it’s fixed. Not roads, not infrastructure, not bridges, no electric grid infrastructure. Gas and water are shut down……..not a ****ing thing that belongs to the government until they start acting of the people, by the people, for the people, instead of just running us the **** over.

They raided roofing companies in Chattanooga today.
Not tomato pickers…..roofers. Do yall really think that is a low skill job. Let’s take the unemployment and put them on the roofs. What could possibly go wrong.
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@Orangeslice13 I do not know the answer to this question.. Not asking out of facetiousness. Can illegal immigrants be covered under workers comp insurance? If not, isn't the homeowner responsible for the injury if someone falls and gets hurt. Again, I don't know the answer.. Just curious.

Also, I understand the point you're making; but I also have lost so many bids to GC's/EC's that have large teams of illegals working on 100's of thousands of dollars in Electrical Work and it sucks. I wish it was a perfect situation for everyone. You can't compete with those bids and keep a margin that allows you to make any profit.
 
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allstar34 said:
@Orangeslice13 I do not know the answer to this question.. Not asking out of facetiousness. Can illegal immigrants be covered under workers comp insurance? If not, isn't the homeowner responsible for the injury if someone falls and gets hurt. Again, I don't know the answer.. Just curious.

Also, I understand the point you're making; but I also have lost so many bids to GC's/EC's that have large teams of illegals working on 100's of thousands of dollars in Electrical Work and it sucks. I wish it was a perfect situation for everyone. You can't compete with those bids and keep a margin that allows you to make any profit.
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Oddly enough most of your contractors at my size are running around with exemption paperwork meaning they are not covered by any workers compensation insurance. Meaning they don’t have insurance and the homeowners are not responsible either.
As far as “illegals”. That’s not what we’re talking about. Or at least everyone of the men I’m talking about all had work visas/greencards until they were revoked or not renewed for no given reason. We’re talking about men who have all paid taxes for years. They were legally here following the rules until our government decided that it’s easier to catch legal immigrants than criminals and we gotta make those numbers look good.
As far as large teams of “illegals”. That’s doesn’t mean cheaper. Not anymore. In construction the amigos make just as much as everyone else per hour. They save companies money because they’re better and faster (productivity) than their home grown counterparts. Nobody can complain about the quality of work because it still has to pass inspection. My 2 amigos were my 2 highest paid employees.

But you’re correct there’s no easy answers here. But it was broken over time so that’s how it should be fixed. Let’s let guys who’ve been here for decades, keep their green cards and focus on deporting the criminals. Ice isn’t here to investigate crime so let’s limit their role to picking up criminals as they get arrested by the actual police….and no, traffic stops are not a reason to call ice.
 
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Delmar said:
Not that college is the be all, end all but he’s the only senator without a college degree and was a plumber. No experience whatsoever in what he’s about to undertake. His only qualification- “He’s a MAGA warrior” according to Trump. What could possibly go wrong with that?

What’s the over/under on how long it takes for him to embarrass Trump and get tossed out?
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He'll embarrass the rest of us long before Trump cans him.
 
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Ice, ice, baby
Ice, ice, baby

Alright stop, collaborate and listen
Ice is back with the brand-new invention
Something grabs a hold of me tightly
Flow like a harpoon daily and nightly
"Will it ever stop?" Yo, I don't know
Turn off the lights, huh, and I'll glow
To the extreme, I rock a mic like a vandal

Ice, ice, baby
 
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Lady refuses to blame Trump for her son's death. Criticizes the "impunity" of ICE, not realizing that is all the Trump admin, I guess.

If she doesn't blame Trump then she doesn't have to blame herself for voting for Trump. Lot of that going around rn.

No mention of the cover up (at least in this snippet)and says it's not political, whatever that means.

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Delmar said:
Not that college is the be all, end all but he’s the only senator without a college degree and was a plumber. No experience whatsoever in what he’s about to undertake. His only qualification- “He’s a MAGA warrior” according to Trump. What could possibly go wrong with that?

What’s the over/under on how long it takes for him to embarrass Trump and get tossed out?
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What does not having a college degree have to do with anything?
 
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hog88 said:
What does not having a college degree have to do with anything?
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Said it’s not the be all, end all. Just commenting on the fact that he’s the only senator out of 100 without one. Guess I should have just said he’s a moron wrapped in 3 layers of stupid based on his interviews and left it at that. Of course that doesn’t disqualify him for the Senate either.
 
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Delmar said:
Said it’s not the be all, end all. Just commenting on the fact that he’s the only senator out of 100 without one. Guess I should have just said he’s a moron wrapped in 3 layers of stupid based on his interviews and left it at that. Of course that doesn’t disqualify him for the Senate either.
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You led off with him not having a degree and being a plumber as if that made him less than other senators. I don’t know crap about the guy so don’t take this as any defense of him but not having a college degree doesn’t make anyone less capable of being an intelligent person or a complete dumbazz.
 
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hog88 said:
You led off with him not having a degree and being a plumber as if that made him less than other senators. I don’t know crap about the guy so don’t take this as any defense of him but not having a college degree doesn’t make anyone less capable of being an intelligent person or a complete dumbazz.
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Maybe he’ll surprise me but his interviews so far aren’t promising. Sounds dumber than a bag of hammers to me.
 
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NashVol11 said:
It's wild to see DHS keep saying things like "that's FALSE, here are the FACTS" and they just get caught lying again

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How many times does it have to be explained to them that ICE doesn't require a "judicial warrant"?

ICE isn't lying, all it takes is an Administrative warrant and it is clear, she overstayed her visa and violated the law.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
How many times does it have to be explained to them that ICE doesn't require a "judicial warrant"?

ICE isn't lying, all it takes is an Administrative warrant and it is clear, she overstayed her visa and violated the law.
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They still require a judicial warrant to walk on job sites and start asking for ID. If all they have is an administrative warrant they do not have probable cause to ID anyone or enter a residence……that’s not the listed address of the person they are looking for. And even then it’s questionable.
I was on a job site this week (not mine) where the other contractor put his immigration attorney on speaker phone and threw the shitbags off the job site for trespassing.

Ice needs to be transportation only. All arrests should be made by the police. It was amazing to watch these ice nitwits either be straight up liars or just completely ignorant of the law.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
They still require a judicial warrant to walk on job sites and start asking for ID. If all they have is an administrative warrant they do not have probable cause to ID anyone or enter a residence……that’s not the listed address of the person they are looking for. And even then it’s questionable.
I was on a job site this week (not mine) where the other contractor put his immigration attorney on speaker phone and threw the shitbags off the job site for trespassing.

Ice needs to be transportation only. All arrests should be made by the police. It was amazing to watch these ice nitwits either be straight up liars or just completely ignorant of the law.
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They didn't need a judicial warrant in this case....they knew she was illegal and was actually tracking her and arrested her for her violation.

Again, they only needed an admin warrant which proved she overstayed her visa, which she did; Some politician trying to score political points don't override the actual law

See Abel vs the US, and Kimm vs Rosenberg Supreme Court cases for review
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
They didn't need a judicial warrant in this case....they knew she was illegal and was actually tracking her and arrested her for her violation.

Again, they only needed an admin warrant which proved she overstayed her visa, which she did; Some politician trying to score political points don't override the actual law

See Abel vs the US, and Kimm vs Rosenberg Supreme Court cases for review
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It was a traffic stop Ricky 🙄
 
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