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  • Portray the target government as illegitimate, authoritarian, corrupt, or “fascist.” <----------------------Still here--------------------------
  • Front-load allegations: accuse incumbent of planning the crimes the opposition intends to commit (rigging, regression, dictatorship).
  • Fund and train NGOs, student groups, and opposition politicians to repeat a unified message.
  • Create/amplify a unifying symbol or theme (e.g., Orange Man Bad). <----------------------And here--------------------------
  • Manufacture an electoral crisis.
  • Street mobilization. <----------------------And here--------------------------
  • Public appeals to and moral blackmail of the military and police: “You’re with the people, not the regime.”
  • Promises of immunity, future positions for defectors.
  • Threats to those who support target government.
  • Provoke a response, flood media with images of “peaceful protesters” being attacked.
  • International legitimation as foreign governments and media recognizes opposition leaders as “legitimate” authority.
  • Sanctions, frozen assets, diplomatic isolation applied to sitting government.
  • New elections scheduled under international supervision.
 
Agree, but they don't want to pay taxes, they don't want to follow the laws, they don't want to get car insurance, and too many are able to double dip by using taxpayer funded welfare and healthcare for nothing..

The only way around is to provide everyone with actual green cards, but what do you do when they won't even follow basic requirements
That is a conundrum. They need to be doing all you said. How it gets done I don’t know. And I think the burden on healthcare and ER’s is a big problem. What I do know is you can’t simply “round them all up and send them back” as many people want to say. The job sectors I mentioned have become dependent on their labor and will collapse if those folks aren’t working. Simply put, I haven’t met many American young folks that are going to pick vegetables, lay brick, smooth concrete or wash dishes for a living. We are a lazy society.

The other end of this is that American companies are readily employing these people and they aren’t asking many questions. The whole system needs an overhaul. I’m not smart enough to figure it out.
 
They actually do not....they pay no federal income tax...just because you are counting "they pay groceries and property taxes" with the illegal under the table money while also utilizing taxpayer services as paying taxes, doesn't make it so.

And something else about that "bottom 50% of American earners" paying taxes too hmmmm

also that's not even counting the massive fraud from identity theft and stealing Social Security numbers
Okie dokie bud
 
Color revolutions are political term used to describe turbulent political events: mass street protests and riots in order to achieve a revolutionary change of government. Some revolutionary upheavals are successful and some remain only attempts. However, so far they have taken place in a number of countries at the end of the 20th and the beginning of the 21st century.

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Regime change has been an important feature of US foreign policy for decades, beginning with the overthrow of the Syrian government in 1949. Since then, it has been estimated that the CIA has overthrown or attempted to overthrow over 50 governments, although it has admitted only 7 cases. Color revolutions are an integral part of US foreign policy that seeks regime change in hostile countries.

In addition to the CIA, the State Department, the Pentagon and various US and domestic non-governmental organizations are most often engaged. In the last decade, a long list of countries with relatively stable political systems experienced colorful revolutions. Somewhere they were more and somewhere less successful: Egypt, Tunisia, Syria, Libya, Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, China, Iran, Venezuela. The regime change scenarios in all these countries show striking similarities.

The same patterns are persistently repeated, which cannot be mere coincidence. Egypt and Ukraine are very different, but the January 25 revolution in Egypt in 2011 and the Euromaidan revolution in 2014 are so similar that even the behavior of the revolutionaries was the same: moderate Islamists in Egypt and radical nationalists in Ukraine.

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Three phases of color revolutions

According to Gene Sharp, an American expert on non-violent struggle and a kind of father of colored revolutions, colored revolutions are led by the principle that power structures (the government) rely on their subjects (the people) – the obedience of the people enables the rulers to rule the country. If the subordinates do not submit to the authorities, the authorities lose their power in the state. According to Sharp, classical color revolutions consist of three stages. The first stage includes the creation of an “underground” movement of cells that together form a network of those dissatisfied with the ruling regime. Members are recruited with big slogans and calls to action. A network of mostly young disaffected suddenly leaves anonymity and appears on the streets of big cities in response to a certain signal. The protests want to present themselves as something spontaneous, but in fact everything was prepared earlier.

Most often, protests erupt due to some reason, such as the questionable irregularity of elections (Serbia 2000, Georgia 2003, Ukraine 2004, Russia 2012), a shocking and unexpected event, for example, the self-immolation of a seller in Tunisia in 2010, or Ukraine’s delay in the implementation of the Association Agreement EU 2013. Members of underground cells become the initiators of the rebellion. Protests, gatherings, marches, setting up fences follow. The people realize that the government may be legal but it is illegitimate and forms an anti-government movement that becomes the driving force of the future revolutionary regime change. Of course, the initiators of the protest do everything carefully and organize the majority who really believe in the proclaimed ideals. People wouldn’t be so rampant in the streets knowing they were tools in the hands of the CIA or MI6. A political crowd forms and protests last for days or weeks in the main city squares.

In the second stage, the goal is to discredit defense, security and law and order bodies through strikes, civil disobedience, riots and sabotage. Protesters are occupying city squares and streets that they do not want to leave until their demands are met. The protestors are organized by the logistics network. In the name of the masses, the protesters give an ultimatum to the government and threaten mass uprisings if they are not satisfied. The government has two choices: retaliate with force or accept the demands. The third and final phase follows, which entails the “non-violent” overthrow of the government. In fact, it is about open attacks on authorities and the occupation of government buildings, institutions and other components or symbols of government. A kind of civil assault on the “organism” of the existing political order. If the government strikes the protesters with force, the media will accuse it of crimes and killing peaceful protesters, while if it agrees to concessions, it will be swept away very quickly because the protesters will not agree to compromises.
Best post I’ve read in a while. 👆


 
For those interested, my posts are a summarized list of the stages of color revolutions, written in December, which is based on a longer article that was written in June of last year, which was based on the Color Revolution playbook that was written in the 70s. They are not hindsight recounts of what we've seen. They were predictions of what we would see, based on the actions of the CIA over decades in Eastern Europe, the Middle East, and the Banana Republics in Latin America.


  • Portray the target government as illegitimate, authoritarian, corrupt, or “fascist.”
  • Front-load allegations: accuse incumbent of planning the crimes the opposition intends to commit (rigging, regression, dictatorship).
  • Fund and train NGOs, student groups, and opposition politicians to repeat a unified message.
  • Create/amplify a unifying symbol or theme (e.g., Orange Man Bad).
  • Manufacture an electoral crisis.
  • Street mobilization.
  • Public appeals to and moral blackmail of the military and police: “You’re with the people, not the regime.”
  • Promises of immunity, future positions for defectors.
  • Threats to those who support target government.
  • Provoke a response, flood media with images of “peaceful protesters” being attacked.
  • International legitimation as foreign governments and media recognizes opposition leaders as “legitimate” authority.
  • Sanctions, frozen assets, diplomatic isolation applied to sitting government.
  • New elections scheduled under international supervision.
 
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For those interested, my posts are a summarized list of the stages of color revolutions, written in December, which is based on a longer article that was written in June of last year, which was based on the Color Revolution playbook that was written in the 70s. They are not hindsight recounts of what we've seen. They were predictions of what we would see, based on the actions of the CIA over decades in Eastern Europe, the Middle East, and the Banana Republics in Latin America.


  • Portray the target government as illegitimate, authoritarian, corrupt, or “fascist.”
  • Front-load allegations: accuse incumbent of planning the crimes the opposition intends to commit (rigging, regression, dictatorship).
  • Fund and train NGOs, student groups, and opposition politicians to repeat a unified message.
  • Create/amplify a unifying symbol or theme (e.g., Orange Man Bad).
  • Manufacture an electoral crisis.
  • Street mobilization.
  • Public appeals to and moral blackmail of the military and police: “You’re with the people, not the regime.”
  • Promises of immunity, future positions for defectors.
  • Threats to those who support target government.
  • Provoke a response, flood media with images of “peaceful protesters” being attacked.
  • International legitimation as foreign governments and media recognizes opposition leaders as “legitimate” authority.
  • Sanctions, frozen assets, diplomatic isolation applied to sitting government.
  • New elections scheduled under international supervision.
This deserves it’s own thread imo.
 
That is a conundrum. They need to be doing all you said. How it gets done I don’t know. And I think the burden on healthcare and ER’s is a big problem. What I do know is you can’t simply “round them all up and send them back” as many people want to say. The job sectors I mentioned have become dependent on their labor and will collapse if those folks aren’t working. Simply put, I haven’t met many American young folks that are going to pick vegetables, lay brick, smooth concrete or wash dishes for a living. We are a lazy society.

The other end of this is that American companies are readily employing these people and they aren’t asking many questions. The whole system needs an overhaul. I’m not smart enough to figure it out.
I wonder how many healthy Americans we have defrauding disability and welfare. Tighten the standards of receiving 'entitlements'. Close loopholes. Force those who are able to work, to work.

We pay lots of people to sit at home, then import illegal immigrants with the logic that Americans won't work. It's staggering.
 
And his patterns doesn’t change the fact he was shot by federal agents multiple times in the back while being unarmed. It doesn’t matter if he was looking for trouble, it doesn’t change what happened on Saturday

It certainly does influence public perception, those within the legal system and possibly a GJ.

Do you believe when someone with a criminal history commits a crime, their current crime is the only one taken into consideration during punishment phase and the previous ones are a non-factor?
 
It certainly does influence public perception, those within the legal system and possibly a GJ.

Do you believe when someone with a criminal history commits a crime, their current crime is the only one taken into consideration during punishment phase and the previous ones are a non-factor?
That’s not the same. Pretti is the victim.
 
Adding additional information based on his behavioral pattern is important to determining what led up to this encounter and why was he interacting in such a violent manner.

Sorry if that deflates the current narrative.

Him acting in a violent manner when he was shot and killed is a government propaganda talking point and not based in reality since there are videos we can all see. Might do you some good to dial back on repeating their lies if you don't want to be tossed in the same category as the posters spreading fake stuff in here.
 
He’s not a criminal, but he was stupid, had temper issues and went looking for confrontation while armed.

Any firearm instructor will tell you this is not an ideal situation and to remove yourself from it.
So you went from court and grand jury to talking about firearm instructors advice? Lol thanks for the insight
 
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Are you fighting for the release for the democrats names to be shown?
The files will be released when its released. Besides, there's a thread on that.
Are you fighting for the unredacted files that include Trumpushy grabber to be fully exposed along with other bassards, whoever they may be? Of course not, you just want to cover for President Pedo with both hands and all four feet.
 
Him acting in a violent manner when he was shot and killed is a government propaganda talking point and not based in reality since there are videos we can all see. Might do you some good to dial back on repeating their lies if you don't want to be tossed in the same category as the posters spreading fake stuff in here.

The days before and the day of, before he was shot is not propaganda.

It appears that anyone that disagrees with the majority of the group in this thread, is labeled as someone posting distractions and false info already. Labels and classifications are fine with me and VN is entertaining and provides an environment for excellent discussion. Some here may have an opinion about me one way or another, it will not negatively impact me either.
 
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I wonder how many healthy Americans we have defrauding disability and welfare. Tighten the standards of receiving 'entitlements'. Close loopholes. Force those who are able to work, to work.

We pay lots of people to sit at home, then import illegal immigrants with the logic that Americans won't work. It's staggering.
No question about your first paragraph and the fraud. Have lived in the Memphis area since 1977 and have seen that forever. Also have seen the epidemic of those that won’t work firsthand and we are paying them not to. More lucrative to have 10 illegitimate babies than go to work.
 
It certainly does influence public perception, those within the legal system and possibly a GJ.

Do you believe when someone with a criminal history commits a crime, their current crime is the only one taken into consideration during punishment phase and the previous ones are a non-factor?
You are correct but see the boldened. During the actual determination phase is very different.
 
The truth has been out there all along. You just didn't want to see it until it dragged you out of your car, kicked in your door, and shot you. The truth was always out there.
 
The days before and the day of, before he was shot is not propaganda.

It appears that anyone that disagrees with the majority of the group in this thread, is labeled as someone posting distractions and false info already. Labels and classifications are fine with me and VN is entertaining and provides an environment for discussion. Some here may have an opinion about me one way or another, it will not negatively impact me either.

That's fine and all, but your post implied that he was being violent when he was killed and thus "his fault". That simply isn't true. And what he did before doesn't change the fact that it isn't true.
 
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Are you fighting for the unredacted files that include Trumpushy grabber to be fully exposed along with other bassards, whoever they may be? Of course not, you just want to cover for President Pedo with both hands and all four feet.
I'm not fighting for or against it. I'm not the one posting it 100x a day.
You need to go to the right thread w/it. This ain't it dumbo.
 
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I'm not fighting for or against it. I'm not the one posting it 100x a day.
You need to go to the right thread w/it. This is not it dumbo.
You post 100X a day, one only has wade through the MEME threads, ICE thread, etc. To see the mighty W.T.N.posts. Your problem is I represent someone who call point out your racist, Trumpist BS. I'm your Jasmine Crockett and it hurts your soul. Now, shoo fly, don't bother me.
 

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