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MercyPercy said:
Be specific on him not being violent? I watched the video, he wasn't being violent. What else do you want me to explain?
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That's a mind-numbingly lazy way to support your position. Are you conceding that it's unsupportable, or do you want to support it?

I'll throw you a line. Here was your claim.

MercyPercy said:
That's fine and all, but your post implied that he was being violent when he was killed and thus "his fault". That simply isn't true. And what he did before doesn't change the fact that it isn't true.
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It'd be helpful for you to clarify which specific post, which part of it implied that he was being violent when he was shot, and that it was his "fault". Additional clarity would help by what you mean by "fault"--as in that his actions put some culpability on him, or the idea that he deserved what he got.

To be honest, I went back through the quote string some ways and did not interpret him as claiming that Pretti was being violent at the time of the shooting, nor that he deserved to be shot.

You may be right, that he was claiming that Pretti was acting violently when shot, and I just missed it. But I didn't see anywhere in the exchange that he was implying that Pretti deserved to get shot, or was singularly at fault for it happening.
 
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A large crowd of anti-ICE protestors surrounded a restaurant in Lakewood, a city in Los Angeles, on Wednesday night after hearing there were apparently federal agents dining inside

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In reality, a group of TSA workers were off duty and enjoying dinner inside the restaurant. The airport workers are seen gathered in the parking lot after the protest broke out

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When approached by Fox 11, a woman with long curly hair, who is believed to be one of the organizers of the protest, refused to comment on the demonstration because she doesn't 'trust Fox'

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Protesters surrounded restaurant after mistaking TSA agents for ICE

A large crowd of anti-ICE protestors surrounded a restaurant in Lakewood, a city in Los Angeles, on Wednesday night after hearing there were apparently federal agents dining inside.
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MercyPercy said:
Be specific on him not being violent? I watched the video, he wasn't being violent. What else do you want me to explain?
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I guarantee if you walk up to a local cop brandishing a lethal firearm, spit on, and kick out his vehicle lights….he’s gonna eff you up and you will catch violance charges. We’re happy for any other lib here to out it to the test.
 
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Majors said:
You’re all over the place like a dog with zoomies. Which Knoxville murder that you listed was by an illegal? But good to see you’re pro life, as if I recall those deaths over the last few years were pregnant at the time of death. Could be wrong on 1. Pretty sure all went to trial and are behind bars. What’s your question?

You’ll have to come up with a better stance besides saying “what about fraud in Texas”, chirp “Greg Abbott” and show nothing. It sounds like you don’t have a good start/understanding of your own question. Kids call this whataboutism.
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PS. Ms Larkins murderer is behind bars. Child
 
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swampfoxfan said:
So please explain to me your outrage over your orange Idol given a pardon to Phillip Esfomes. O don't seeall the maga tears about Ole Phil stealing 1.2 billion dollars in Medicare fraud. So tell me why?
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Are we talking Texas fraud or are we talking Florida fraud? Pick a lane a stay there. He should have let him serve his sentence, it’s not that hard to understand. That should suffice as that’s a greater stance against Trump than liberals have taken against Walz, Omar and Somalians.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
That's a mind-numbingly lazy way to support your position. Are you conceding that it's unsupportable, or do you want to support it?
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If you disagree with my (and every sane person's) assessment, why don't you explain how he was being violent when he was killed? In what world does it make sense for me to explain what he wasn't doing- is this just some weird game? He didn't punch anyone, he didn't attack anyone, he had his hands up when he was pepper sprayed point blank in the face. He tried to help a woman off the ground that was tossed there like a sack of potatoes. He never attempted to touch his gun.

I feel like I'm having to explain the definition of violence to a toddler.. or a purposefully obtuse adult?
 
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hjeagle1vol said:
I guarantee if you walk up to a local cop brandishing a lethal firearm, spit on, and kick out his vehicle lights….he’s gonna eff you up and you will catch violance charges. We’re happy for any other lib here to out it to the test.
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Another fake 2A supporter that doesn't even know what brandishing means? Huuuuge surprise.
 
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MercyPercy said:
If you disagree with my (and every sane person's) assessment, why don't you explain how he was being violent when he was killed? In what world does it make sense for me to explain what he wasn't doing- is this just some weird game? He didn't punch anyone, he didn't attack anyone, he had his hands up when he was pepper sprayed point blank in the face. He tried to help a woman off the ground that was tossed there like a sack of potatoes. He never attempted to touch his gun.

I feel like I'm having to explain the definition of violence to a toddler.. or a purposefully obtuse adult?
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Please see my updates.

Orange_Crush said:
That's a mind-numbingly lazy way to support your position. Are you conceding that it's unsupportable, or do you want to support it?

I'll throw you a line. Here was your claim.



It'd be helpful for you to clarify which specific post, which part of it implied that he was being violent when he was shot, and that it was his "fault". Additional clarity would help by what you mean by "fault"--as in that his actions put some culpability on him, or the idea that he deserved what he got.

To be honest, I went back through the quote string some ways and did not interpret him as claiming that Pretti was being violent at the time of the shooting, nor that he deserved to be shot.

You may be right, that he was claiming that Pretti was acting violently when shot, and I just missed it. But I didn't see anywhere in the exchange that he was implying that Pretti deserved to get shot, or was singularly at fault for it happening.
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MercyPercy said:
Another fake 2A supporter that doesn't even know what brandishing means? Huuuuge surprise.
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Is it your contention that one can't hold the belief that (1) one has the right to keep and bear arms, and also hold the opinion that (2) they should do so responsibly and that (3) there are negative outcomes for not doing so responsibly? Please explain how that is internally inconsistent. And please be specific.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
I know that's your goal, you want the forum all to yourself. If the mods refuse to do your bidding, I salute them for their integrity, and fair play.
You're just trying to bait me into saying something anti-mod to trigger my dismissal, why don't you just stop posting to me? It's easy to do.
And there is an IGNORE button, use it.
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You should probably take your own advice in the last sentence. Works both ways. That clown has been on my Ignore list for a LONG time. Don’t have time to read hundreds of links and regurgitations of random thoughts from other fringe goofballs.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Ok so let’s talk about using an app like Signal. Welcome to the 21st century. There is absolutely nothing inherently illegal in using technology for coordinating efforts. This is 100% protected 1A free speech. I can promise you MLK and his lieutenants would absolutely have used that technology were it available. It’s what you do with it. Using it to tell people where ICE is isn’t illegal. What people do when they get there determines the legality
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You mean the people painting a group text as a "coordinated terrorist network" planning a color revolution might be lying? No way!
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Is it your contention that one can't hold the belief that (1) one has the right to keep and bear arms, and also hold the opinion that (2) they should do so responsibly and that (3) there are negative outcomes for not doing so responsibly? Please explain how that is internally inconsistent. And please be specific.
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My contention was that the post I was replying to said he brandished his weapon at them which is obviously not true. That's literally it.
 
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Delmar said:
You should probably take your own advice in the last sentence. Works both ways. That clown has been on my Ignore list for a LONG time. Don’t have time to read hundreds of links and regurgitations of random thoughts from other fringe goofballs.
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I too put him on ignore for the exact same reasons, plus a couple more. Can't say I miss excerpts from unknown news sources.
 
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MercyPercy said:
My contention was that the post I was replying to said he brandished his weapon at them which is obviously not true. That's literally it.
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So, I'm not so sure that's true, but I'll concede it for the sake of brevity, and the fact that it was probably heavily implied by context. The question centers on:

MercyPercy said:
Another fake 2A supporter...
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Is it your contention that someone who makes a misstatement about someone who had a gun can't also believe that we have the right to keep and bear arms? Can you please explain the logic that connected those two points for me? And please be specific.
 
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I’d like to know what the protesters think they are accomplishing by harassing the officers? That’s like haranguing your waitress because the restaurant took your favorite dish off the menu.

They should be in DC at the capitol building and WH protesting along with the various state legislatures and governors offices. Those are the people making the decisions, not the guys on the street
 
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Majors said:
Are we talking Texas fraud or are we talking Florida fraud? Pick a lane a stay there. He should have let him serve his sentence, it’s not that hard to understand. That should suffice as that’s a greater stance against Trump than liberals have taken against Walz, Omar and Somalians.
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Don't be a moron. Trump pardons a fellow millionaire for stealing 1.2 billion and you have no problem with is the lane.
 
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