Too much ice

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BernardKingGOAT said:
Such a nothing burger
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His image modification claim was correct however. I won’t get into the follow on agendas that’s not my rabbit hole. But I genuinely couldn’t see it in the prior offered images and I jumped all over him. And I can clearly see it here and I owed him that I think. My interactions with him are he’s an honest broker so if I’m going to be honest back I think I owed him that when I saw it.
 
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hndog609 said:
It's essentially impossible with anyone in the boldened state of mind to consistently keep it between the lines on any subject with even a bit of nuance. There is no shortage of people that would really grapple with someone they hated proclaiming 2+2=4. It's just not acceptable to those types that it's ever acceptable to concede the "other side" can be correct about anything.
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Simple explanation, you are not going to get the honest truth out of this Administration. Too many that have been elected or selected to serve either turn their heads in the other direction or bury it in the sand. Some of course are in quest of total control. Not many options to choose from because the opposite are totally pushing to the other extreme.

People don't have the vision when they vote to know the damage this will create in America by voting for one single person because like all politicians they tell you what you want to hear then do what they want.

Then the other part of the equation is that they both follow party lines only to be misled by party affiliations and not facts. The system is broke because most don't Vet the candidates except through Social Media posts and fake news.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Simple explanation, you are not going to get the honest truth out of this Administration. Too many that have be elected or selected to serve either turn their heads in the other direction or bury it in the sand. Some of course are in quest of total control. Not many options to choose from because the opposite are totally pushing to the other extreme.

People don't have the vision when they vote to know the damage this will create in America by voting for one single person because like all politicians they tell you what you want to hear then do what they want.

Then the other part of the equation is that they both follow party lines only to be misled by party affiliations and not facts. The system is broke because most don't Vet the candidates except through Social Media posts and fake news.
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In general you're pretty much correct that it's simply the world we live in now. If I could make add one little caveat I'd take the boldened and posit that of course you can get the honest truth out of this admin...if the truth is something useful to them. As you state that's become pretty much status quo for either party, at least in the aggregate.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
His image modification claim was correct however. I won’t get into the follow on agendas that’s not my rabbit hole. But I genuinely couldn’t see it in the prior offered images and I jumped all over him. And I can clearly see it here and I owed him that I think. My interactions with him are he’s an honest broker so if I’m going to be honest back I think I owed him that when I saw it.
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Yep. Bottom line is that focusing on a photo touch-up is a massive deflection from the actual event itself
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
His image modification claim was correct however. I won’t get into the follow on agendas that’s not my rabbit hole. But I genuinely couldn’t see it in the prior offered images and I jumped all over him. And I can clearly see it here and I owed him that I think. My interactions with him are he’s an honest broker so if I’m going to be honest back I think I owed him that when I saw it.
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The only thing about this is who cares about a hard or warm photo. Distracts from the facts and is in turn, distracts from the facts that an unarmed man was shot exercising his freedoms. It looks like it was warmed up and probably was but to point that out is missing the point.

Problem is that some will cast a vote based on this alone.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
The only thing about this is who cares about a hard or warm photo. Distracts from the facts and is in turn, distracts from the facts that an unarmed man was shot exercising his freedoms. It looks like it was warmed up and probably was but to point that out is missing the point.

Problem is that some will cast a vote based on this alone.
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OC had never argued those facts. It was an exchange initiating from a supposed MSNBC article. And if MSNBC really did use the image on the right it has been modified. I’m merely conceding back to him that if the Bee’s own article is correct and MSNBC did that then yes they used a modified image. I won’t waste any more bandwidth on the why
 
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Delmar said:
Well the Greyhound bus has its first victim. Did anybody see that Bovino is being sent back to El Centro, CA? Been there numerous times and it’s a pit. (Ain’t Hell but you can see it from there.) Great spot for the Little Nazi Wannabe. He can chase illegal lettuce pickers to his heart’s content. Hopefully his 15 minutes of fame are over. At least until he gets hauled back in front of Congress to explain his tactics in Minnesota.
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Public Greyhound moment:

 
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Sudden Impact said:
Worse decision made (sending in untrained ICE) since The Stones had the Hell Angels work security for a concert.
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Hard to believe so many of you have fallen for the “untrained” lie. These officers are trained, they are trained as well as any other LE in the country. Think about that for a second
 
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CagleMtnVol said:
This, the guy was fighting the officers. Why is that being ignored?
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He was maced, tackled to the ground and had mace canister slammed into his face repeatedly with 5 ICE officers on top of him, because he deigned to get between a woman whom an ICE officer had shoved to the ground for no reason, and then he was subsequently executed while still on his hands and knees.
 
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CagleMtnVol said:
This, the guy was fighting the officers. Why is that being ignored?
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I guess when you are outnumbered 5-1 and you are pinned to the ground, your weapon is in the 6th agent's hands 10 ft away the best way to do survive is to fight your way out of it.

Having him under control why did they shoot him? 10 times which includes shots fired after he laid in the streets more than likely dead.

Overkill he was disarmed and under control? You really had to ask that question? You can go back to your video game now.
 
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utvolpj said:
Yet again that's fake
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*EDIT ..... I meant to reply to the post from @W.TN.Orange Blood ..... Apologies to @utvolpj.

Not that the truth has ever mattered to you, as you post social media messages from radical right wing loons all the time which contain false information, but the claim that he was fired from his job recently is an outright lie and has been debunked in multiple places.

The attempts by the far right to smear this person, who is no longer around to defend himself are despicable. Do you feel good about yourself spreading this lie from atop your moral high horse crock of $hit?

The worst part of it, is that you won't even acknowledge that what you posted is, in fact, part of a politically-motivated MAGA disinformation campaign. You won't admit that this was a lie, because whether it is true or not isn't relevant to it's purpose. The agenda is to smear a person who just died in order to reduce sympathetic feelings towards the man, but even if he had just been fired, does that have anything to do with whether or not the ICE agents were justified in using deadly force against him?

You insist that you are not a member of a cult, but this is textbook cultish behavior. What the hell is wrong with you?
 
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BeardedVol said:
He was maced, tackled to the ground and had mace canister slammed into his face repeatedly with 5 ICE officers on top of him, because he deigned to get between a woman whom an ICE officer had shoved to the ground for no reason, and then he was subsequently executed while still on his hands and knees.
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All because he was fighting back against them instead of complying to their commands.
 
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BeardedVol said:
He was maced, tackled to the ground and had mace canister slammed into his face repeatedly with 5 ICE officers on top of him, because he deigned to get between a woman whom an ICE officer had shoved to the ground for no reason, and then he was subsequently executed while still on his hands and knees.
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Bless your little facebook brain rot. Still sticking to that lie?
 
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CagleMtnVol said:
What does that have to do with him being disarmed?
Why was he fighting the officers and not complying?
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There wasn't much fighting. He was down and obviously reacting physically to being restrained. That still isn't grounds to execute him. You got to be out of your facking mind thinking what they did was warranted
 
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