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#8,827
In 1992, I was the managing partner in a cotton warehouse in Cordele, Georgia. We were getting alarms during the night and I was worried about a hobo breaking in, starting a fire to keep warm and burning up 15,000 bales of cotton.

So I decide to spend the night and carried a 12ga shotgun with me. Sure enough, close to midnight that freaking alarm went off. I jump up and go traipsing around to see what was going on. As I was walking around one of the warehouses back towards the office, a police car rolls up with their headlights on me. Two cops get out of the car and order me to put the shotgun down. I could not see them obviously, so I have no idea if they were drawn on me or not.

I did not argue for my 2A rights.
I did not try to explain I was a partner.
I did not try to explain I was on my property or anything else for that matter.

I put the gun on the ground.

They then came on up, id me and we talked about the circumstances. They let me pick my shotgun up and we all went on our merry ways after a few more minutes.

From everything I have seen, Pretti did not in any shape, form or fashion, deserve to die. The ICE agents appear to have overreacted and Pretti is dead. I do believe that if Pretti had really been cognizant of what his sidearm was going to do in ramping up the tension, subsequent risks, and reacted accordingly, he would be alive. That is NOT a defense of the agents, it is nothing more than my common sense saying he would be alive today if he had been better prepared mentally.
 
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GroverCleveland said:
In 1992, I was the managing partner in a cotton warehouse in Cordele, Georgia. We were getting alarms during the night and I was worried about a hobo breaking in, starting a fire to keep warm and burning up 15,000 bales of cotton.

So I decide to spend the night and carried a 12ga shotgun with me. Sure enough, close to midnight that freaking alarm went off. I jump up and go traipsing around to see what was going on. As I was walking around one of the warehouses back towards the office, a police car rolls up with their headlights on me. Two cops get out of the car and order me to put the shotgun down. I could not see them obviously, so I have no idea if they were drawn on me or not.

I did not argue for my 2A rights.
I did not try to explain I was a partner.
I did not try to explain I was on my property or anything else for that matter.

I put the gun on the ground.

They then came on up, id me and we talked about the circumstances. They let me pick my shotgun up and we all went on our merry ways after a few more minutes.

From everything I have seen, Pretti did not in any shape, form or fashion, deserve to die. The ICE agents appear to have overreacted and Pretti is dead. I do believe that if Pretti had really been cognizant of what his sidearm was going to do in ramping up the tension, subsequent risks, and reacted accordingly, he would be alive. That is NOT a defense of the agents, it is nothing more than my common sense saying he would be alive today if he had been better prepared mentally.
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Now change the story up slightly...

The police are there to apprehend a suspect. A flash-mob shows up to interfere, it's chaos with horns, whistles, etc... An agent is physically engaged with one person, so you go over from behind/side and put your hands on the agent to help the person he's engaged with. He engages with you and tries to apprehend you. You fight. More jump in to engage as you fight and resist. During that fight, they see your gun. You reach behind you where the gun is or used to be...
 
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appvol said:
lol at Walz

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I don't find Tampon Timmy funny at all. To compare what's going on to genocide is to piss on their memories. What happened in Minneapolis is tragic, but it's not in the same conversation as the Holocaust. What he said is reprehensible and dangerous. And to think that douchecanoe could have been VP.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Now change the story up slightly...

The police are there to apprehend a suspect. A flash-mob shows up to interfere, it's chaos with horns, whistles, etc... An agent is physically engaged with one person, so you go over from behind/side and put your hands on the agent to help the person he's engaged with. He engages with you and tries to apprehend you. You fight. More jump in to engage as you fight and resist. During that fight, they see your gun. You reach behind you where the gun is or used to be...
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What dafuq is the point of that?
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
I don't find Tampon Timmy funny at all. To compare what's going on to genocide is to piss on their memories. What happened in Minneapolis is tragic, but it's not in the same conversation as the Holocaust. What he said is reprehensible and dangerous. And to think that douchecanoe could have been VP.
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Gaslighting the base. Tapper allowed one of his progressive guest to say ICE is about to throw protestors in ovens. He didn’t correct the guest, just cut to break.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Now change the story up slightly...

The police are there to apprehend a suspect. A flash-mob shows up to interfere, it's chaos with horns, whistles, etc... An agent is physically engaged with one person, so you go over from behind/side and put your hands on the agent to help the person he's engaged with. He engages with you and tries to apprehend you. You fight. More jump in to engage as you fight and resist. During that fight, they see your gun. You reach behind you where the gun is or used to be...
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Everyone is trying to judge the officer based off slow motion video and pictures. It is entirely different in the heat of the moment.
 
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GroverCleveland said:
In 1992, I was the managing partner in a cotton warehouse in Cordele, Georgia. We were getting alarms during the night and I was worried about a hobo breaking in, starting a fire to keep warm and burning up 15,000 bales of cotton.

So I decide to spend the night and carried a 12ga shotgun with me. Sure enough, close to midnight that freaking alarm went off. I jump up and go traipsing around to see what was going on. As I was walking around one of the warehouses back towards the office, a police car rolls up with their headlights on me. Two cops get out of the car and order me to put the shotgun down. I could not see them obviously, so I have no idea if they were drawn on me or not.

I did not argue for my 2A rights.
I did not try to explain I was a partner.
I did not try to explain I was on my property or anything else for that matter.

I put the gun on the ground.

They then came on up, id me and we talked about the circumstances. They let me pick my shotgun up and we all went on our merry ways after a few more minutes.

From everything I have seen, Pretti did not in any shape, form or fashion, deserve to die. The ICE agents appear to have overreacted and Pretti is dead. I do believe that if Pretti had really been cognizant of what his sidearm was going to do in ramping up the tension, subsequent risks, and reacted accordingly, he would be alive. That is NOT a defense of the agents, it is nothing more than my common sense saying he would be alive today if he had been better prepared mentally.
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But I have one question...

Were you wearing the Indiana Jones hat?
 
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BeardedVol said:
Did the Minnesota State patrol also remove their name tags, badge numbers, and other identification information like ICE agents, or is this just another of your attempts to create a false equivalence?
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Don’t know you will have to reach out to them and ask. Thought covering you face was bad though
 
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BreatheUT said:
Trump is in year 1 of a 4 year term. There is a joke that he could run again as the first trans woman Donna Trump and get 8 more years.
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He's already got the boobs and his retracted micro penis would make the transition much easier.

Plus I heard Putin is willing to cover all medical expenses.
 
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luthervol said:
He's already got the boobs and his retracted micro penis would make the transition much easier.

Plus I heard Putin is willing to cover all medical expenses.
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Orange_Crush said:
Now change the story up slightly...

The police are there to apprehend a suspect. A flash-mob shows up to interfere, it's chaos with horns, whistles, etc... An agent is physically engaged with one person, so you go over from behind/side and put your hands on the agent to help the person he's engaged with. He engages with you and tries to apprehend you. You fight. More jump in to engage as you fight and resist. During that fight, they see your gun. You reach behind you where the gun is or used to be...
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I hope you guys would be talking about poor ole Grover, how he didn't deserve to die, etc, etc.

And the correct guys would be saying Grover was a dumbass doing that and would be alive if he hadn't.
 
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