Too much ice

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hog88 said:
When I was 16 I went the opposite way and did my best to resist, they teed off on me and had a jolly 'ol time until they found out that I was underage which was after they wore themselves out thumping on my head.
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My father was a senior construction engineer at TVA. He was also over security. He taught me a lot of things. One was how to deal with law enforcement so you don’t get killed. Part of that was how to win in the long run…..in court.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Dude. I don’t like it anymore than you but the law is the law and you can’t interfere.

The agents are making an arrest and she’s yelling in his ear by the car in the middle of the street. She puts her hands on the agent who then walked her back to the curb knocking her down along the way. When they get to the curb she comes back at the agent and gets shoved down. The victim grabs the agent and gets pepper sprayed then shoved on top of the woman. The law is clear if you look it up. You don’t get to interfere with officers and agents making arrests.

But for the 1000th time. They can be wrong and commit 100 felonies and that doesn’t negate the murder charge that should be handed to the agent who shot an unarmed man in the back.
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I'm just popping in now this is something pretty common. Someone (not just LE mind you) can react to something, even violently, and it be perfectly (or at least arguably) legal...until it isn't. Even if only for the sake of argument everything up to the point of the actual shooting could be legal. That doesn't mean that the shooter himself shouldn't be looking at having the incident headed to a grand jury.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
My father was a senior construction engineer at TVA. He was also over security. He taught me a lot of things. One was how to deal with law enforcement so you don’t get killed. Part of that was how to win in the long run…..in court.
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My dad's reaction was "you got what you deserved now go clean the free-stall barn". That was a lesson I'll never forget.
 
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luthervol said:
lol.....
We're actually talking about making it part of the punishment for the Fantasy Football loser.

I think it will be so repulsively horrible it will actually be hysterical.
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LOL. I understand the perspective, but I can think of worse things than watching Melania for an hour and a half. I'm not in any hurry to go see it. The First Lady wants to however.
 
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Delmar said:
Ricky, we agree on a lot of subjects but we aren’t going to agree here. That’s just petty. Guessing some of you folks also have a problem with the media running the video of Pretti saying some nice final words and talking about freedom over the body of the dead veteran at the hospital where he worked. Haven’t seen any of you talking about that.
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What? I am not being petty or "dissing" Pretti at all.....I think its beyond strange that a news media outlet would literally AI change a person's appearance of what they look like.

That is a critique of the MSM not Pretti
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
My father was a senior construction engineer at TVA. He was also over security. He taught me a lot of things. One was how to deal with law enforcement so you don’t get killed. Part of that was how to win in the long run…..in court.
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I mentioned a long time ago in the LEO thread the problem with this is a self fulfilling prophecy by certain groups. You grow up and told by your single mom that police are racist and evil and want to kill you or throw you in jail illegally. Then when those young men and women deal with the police they fight or run causing the very thing they were “scared of”
 
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jvol1 said:
www.pbs.org

GOP gives ICE massive budget increase to expand Trump's deportation effort

ICE is receiving a major infusion of funding to help carry out President Trump’s deportation agenda. The big budget bill passed by Republicans includes billions for the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency, giving it more funding than any other federal law enforcement agency. White House...
www.pbs.org www.pbs.org

Police state in effect. The ice-s will be watching all of us. Thanks small govt republicans.
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Why would ICE watch us?
 
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EasternVol said:
You're very susceptible to groupthink aren't you? That white liberal women disparagement's been making the rounds on MAGA social media.
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They tend to alternate between this and thinkpieces about how it's hard for MAGA men to get dates because people "discriminate against" them (i.e. those same liberal women don't want to date them)
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
What? I am not being petty or "dissing" Pretti at all.....I think its beyond strange that a news media outlet would literally AI change a person's appearance of what they look like.

That is a critique of the MSM not Pretti
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Fair enough. I don’t pay attention to the MSM on either side most of the time. They are prone to do all sorts of stupid things. It is a bit odd but I really don’t care what they did to his picture or why. His looks have nothing to do with the ultimate question being debated therefore irrelevant to me.
 
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appvol said:
I do think the signal chat stuff is interesting especially if there is Minnesota Politicians involved plus some of the other people involved. I remember people losing there crap over Hegseth signal chat stuff.
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There is no way you think this is the same as a government higher-up accidentally leaking classified military information just because they both include the word "Signal"
 
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Well the Greyhound bus has its first victim. Did anybody see that Bovino is being sent back to El Centro, CA? Been there numerous times and it’s a pit. (Ain’t Hell but you can see it from there.) Great spot for the Little Nazi Wannabe. He can chase illegal lettuce pickers to his heart’s content. Hopefully his 15 minutes of fame are over. At least until he gets hauled back in front of Congress to explain his tactics in Minnesota.
 
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Delmar said:
Fair enough. I don’t pay attention to the MSM on either side most of the time. They are prone to do all sorts of stupid things. It is a bit odd but I really don’t care what they did to his picture or why. His looks have nothing to do with the ultimate question being debated therefore irrelevant to me.
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If true, it's a pretty good indication of narrative building masked as "reporting".
 
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Orange_Crush said:
If true, it's a pretty good indication of narrative building masked as "reporting".
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No it won’t. This is a 100% petty tactic and it rings hollow on anybody paying attention. On the image offered of Pretti it looks like a warming filter was applied. I can do that in one button press on my Nikon. BuT iM eDiTTiNG PIcTuREs!!🤦‍♂️
 
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Orange_Crush said:
If true, it's a pretty good indication of narrative building masked as "reporting".
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Don’t give a rat’s arse about his appearance. I’m only interested in one narrative and that involves a grand jury for several ICE agents. The video tells me all I need to know. It will be interesting to see if a grand jury agrees. (I think they will.)

The only other thing I want exposed is who authored the ridiculous canned response right after the incident? Bovino and Noem should be canned today. Although it could be argued that Bovino is getting worse by being sent back to El Centro, CA.
 
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