Too much ice

[Orangeslice13]

It depends on which source we use.

FELON Definition & Meaning​

Merriam-Webster
https://www.merriam-webster.com › dictionary › felon

1. One who has committed a felony. 2. Archaic : villain. 3. A painful abscess of the deep tissues of the palmar surface of the fingertip that is typically ...

This argument reminds me of a joke I used in an interview one time and still got the job.

“Have you ever been convicted of a felony “

And I said

“Convicted? No, never convicted “

 

[Vol8188]

The officer that fired the first 3 shots at his back literally watched the gun get pulled from him.

Not sure how you can say that with such confidence given how fast and chaotic the situation was.

 

[appvol]

Brother it said it was 100% AI and the writing style is ChatGPT all the way, what specific proof are you looking for

Like I said you have no proof it is

 

[volgr]

Look we understand in Mother Russia rights are granted by Putin. Here in your guest country we have a constitution with a bill of rights. What I pointed to is covered in the first two amendments. You should go read it before you post anymore.

Again, your asinine claim is directly refuted by video and the fact every other "protester" who stayed on the sidewalk weren't confronted. So, you start raving about Russia and Putin.

 

[NashVol11]

Like I said you have no proof it is

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Grok doesn't recognize ChatGPT's writing that's hilarious, you should work on recognizing AI prose because Twitter influencers use a LOT of it

 

[volgr]

Yes he did. Your vision is warped

Oh so we shoot people for only assuming they have guns now? Buffoonery

Not what I said, but you know that.

 

[volgr]

Did they lie? Do you care?

You care, and you made a bold claim as to why they were allegedly lying. I want to flush out your theory. Why don't you want to detail it here?

 

[EasternVol]

You can agree or disagree with the policy, but Trump is light years ahead of where Biden was cognitively.

As for dementia I wouldn't say light years but he is in better shape than when Biden was running in 2000. Let's see how he holds up and for how long. Trump's megalomania, extreme narcissism, being a profound arsehole, whatever you want to call it, amplifies the effects of his cognitive issues.

 

[n_huffhines]

You care, and you made a bold claim as to why they were allegedly lying. I want to flush out your theory. Why don't you want to detail it here?

So you don't care at all about them lying to you bald-faced about why they are there?

GTFOH with your BS

 

[ETV]

You have eyes don’t you? Go to the 45 second mark. The agent who fires the shots clearly see him grab his gun and that’s when he pulls his own and then shoots him.

I can possibly see an accidental discharge, but that officer didn't have a legit reason to draw his weapon and fire at that point.

Why was Pretti resisting is what I don't understand?

 

[NorthDallas40]

Again, your asinine claim is directly refuted by video and the fact every other "protester" who stayed on the sidewalk weren't confronted. So, you start raving about Russia and Putin.

Should I drop the 1984 post again?



Specifically, I'm told there is extreme frustration with DHS officials going on TV and putting out statements claiming that Alex Pretti was intending to conduct a "massacre" of federal agents or wanted to carry out "maximum damage", even after numerous videos appeared to show those claims were inaccurate. While they say it was a terrible decision to show up with a gun and inject himself into a federal law enforcement operation, there is no indication Pretti was there to murder law enforcement, as videos appear to show he never drew his holstered firearm.

 

[volgr]

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Here’s the shooter pulling his gun. The only reason he pulls is he see the agent to his left taking the gun from the victims holster. So he clearly saw who had the gun and that there was no threat when he decided to shoot.

There is no way to know without testimony that he saw that.

 

[DuckInAPen]

Didn’t know highly confident was proof

Your call, appvol. But from where I sit, this isn’t January 2026 hackery anymore.
It’s phase one of something Silicon Valley's spent decades trying to build upon our own soil. That should keep every thinking American awake at night.

 

[Smokey123]

Not what I said, but you know that.

You’re one of the few defending their actions and then said: “is the officer supposed to assume he only had one?” As a way to justify it.

 

[NashVol11]

No, he didn't and even if he had is the officer supposed to assume he only had one?

There is no way to know without testimony that he saw that.

"He was looking right at it but didn't see it, but also if he did see it, he was still justified"

Yeah OK

 

[BeardedVol]

There is no way to know without testimony that he saw that.

LOL

 

[General Jack]

Obama didnt actually deport more. He called catch and release at the border deport.

And the government being jack boots is a far bigger problem than the people protesting them. You can't use the circular argument of the side you don't like did something you don't like so your side gets to do something you do like, because that is the exact same argument they will use to do more themselves.

Especially in this last shooting. They shot a guy after they had him down on the ground, so this wasn't a protester escalating it was the government.

Can you imagine Fox News if someone wearing a maga hat was executed like that during the Obama / Biden administrations?

Ashley Babbit comes to mind and that was in obvious defense of the capital. Quite different talking points and outrage IIRC.

 

[n_huffhines]

"He was looking right at it but didn't see it, but also if he did see it, he was still justified"

Yeah OK

Bro can't even admit that he cares about ICE lying to him about why they are in MN. He needs a reason for the lie before he decides if he cares.

 

[Vol8188]

You have eyes don’t you? Go to the 45 second mark. The agent who fires the shots clearly see him grab his gun and that’s when he pulls his own and then shoots him.

There’s 2-3 adults between him and the guy who pulled the gun out. Not sure how you can be so confident

 

[appvol]

Should I drop the 1984 post again?



Specifically, I'm told there is extreme frustration with DHS officials going on TV and putting out statements claiming that Alex Pretti was intending to conduct a "massacre" of federal agents or wanted to carry out "maximum damage", even after numerous videos appeared to show those claims were inaccurate. While they say it was a terrible decision to show up with a gun and inject himself into a federal law enforcement operation, there is no indication Pretti was there to murder law enforcement, as videos appear to show he never drew his holstered firearm.

You are welcome for that

 

[EasternVol]

No, you need National Guard and possibly Marines in Minneapolis at this point with orders to use lethal force against anyone directly obstructing Federal officers. The State should be under temporary Federal control. Walz and Frey should rot in prison for the rest of their pathetic lives.

You think Vladdy can spare any Spetznaz?

 

[Vol8188]

Not to change the subject, but did Ras actually die, or just retire from VN?

Hard to say. Russia is losing 1,000 me a day in Ukraine. Probably just banned though

 

[jp1]

Yea. I get that.
My angle was that some crimes are considered felonies.
Murder is a felony. So if you commit a murder you are both a murderer and a felon.
But maybe technically you do not call a person who commits felonies a felon.

I guess the bottom line is that there are lots of people have committed felonies who are not felons.

But there are not people who have committed murder who are not also murderers.

If you have been convicted of a felony, then by definition you are a felon.

 

[n_huffhines]

No, you need National Guard and possibly Marines in Minneapolis at this point with orders to use lethal force against anyone directly obstructing Federal officers. The State should be under temporary Federal control. Walz and Frey should rot in prison for the rest of their pathetic lives.

Never been a states rights guy, huh? Not a freedom guy? Not a constitution guy?

What are your values? Security?

 

[appvol]

Can you imagine Fox News if someone wearing a maga was executed like that during the Obama / Biden administrations?

Ashley Babbit comes to mind and that was in obvious defense of the capital. Quite different talking points and outrage IIRC.

I think most on here said Babbit put herself in that situation to be shot and killed