Too much ice

[ETV]

Did you get kicked in the head by a mule or something? She didn't cause a death. The trigger happy / terrified agent(s) who fired did.

Her heavy right foot on the accelerator didn't help her situation either.

 

[NorthDallas40]

SIAP:

Minnesota Republican drops out of governor's race, citing GOP's handling of immigration enforcement

Republican Chris Madel said in a video posted to X that he "cannot support the national Republicans' stated retribution on the citizens of our state."

www.nbcnews.com

Did the polling say he had a chance or was this an opportunistic time to take a stand and avoid a beat down? No agenda other than the question and his rationale sounds great to me. But he’s a politician soooooo….

 

[NorthDallas40]

It would appear the VNPF lead sympathetic to the cause yet minimalistic in the rationalization poster has clocked in.

 

[ETV]

There’s at least 4 other people there. Theres people are between the two men I circled. Pretending he had a clear view is a joke

As I stated previously, there were multiple distractions with whistles and protestor interference, which may have limited verbal commands. There's no need for that weapon to be drawn at this point of the situation. I don't agree with calling him trigger happy, etc. and he may be an exceptional officer within ICE, but he made a mistake that day and he'll have to be held accountable.

 

[n_huffhines]

So to recap:

They are targeting sanctuary cities because those cities don't work with ICE, and

A) that's where all the criminals will be caught,

B) this is retribution for their policies and opposition to Trump,

C) they're trying to foment insurrection, and/or

D) there is no clear motive, they're just stupid.

Their 1,360 lie has been debunked and Homan, the guy who knows the most about running ICE, strongly believed the best strategy was in high-density cities with cooperative governments.

So now that A is eliminated, who is changing their minds? Probably nobody.

I am certain we'll see some of you in here again claiming Minneapolis is just good strategy.

 

[ETV]

It's such limpdick energy to come in here and cheer on deaths on American soil like it's any sort of victory for anyone. It's also just purely reprehensible on your end.

Goes for you too @Vol8188

She was FAR from death there.

 

[EasternVol]

And another one down, and another one down, another one bites the dust…

There's something wrong with your psyche.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

She was FAR from death there.

Another fool gets dropped…this will be good to watch all day til the fights start later: the video is well…you’ll see.

 

[GroverCleveland]

LOL
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All your post here proves is the agent saw an empty holster, which in a volatile situation simply ramps up LEO anxiety and leads to a shooting.

Now, he may seen the gun in the other agent's hand, but this picture you have provided proves nothing of the sort.

No, I'm not defending this shoot, but pointing out this picture that does nothing more than suggest the agent could be in a reasonable frame of mind to shoot.

 

[NorthDallas40]

As I stated previously, there were multiple distractions with whistles and protestor interference, which may have limited verbal commands. There's no need for that weapon to be drawn at this point of the situation. I don't agree with calling him trigger happy, etc. and he may be an exceptional officer within ICE, but he made a mistake that day and he'll have to be held accountable.

The shooter had unobstructed view of the other officer disarming the victim and retreating with the weapon and the victim prostrate and controlled in front of him. I guess that is why he was so quickly able to get three rounds off cleanly hitting him squarely in the back.

 

[hjeagle1vol]

So I broke the news…well at least what was coming and said it’ll be interesting viewing the reactions forthcoming…mommy look at the bad man

 

[DinkinFlicka]

So I broke the news…well at least what was coming and said it’ll be interesting viewing the reactions forthcoming…mommy look at the bad man

More like mommy look at the morally bankrupt chode cheering for death on American soil.

I'm not saying you should kill yourself, to be clear, but if I looked in the mirror and found myself generally comfortable with celebrating American deaths on American soil at the hand of other Americans for the sake of my agenda, I'd probably blow my brains out.

 

[hjeagle1vol]

There's something wrong with your psyche.

Who can’t enjoy watching an idiot pick up a flash bang and learnin a tough lesson amirite? It’s hysterical

 

[BeardedVol]

All your post here proves is the agent saw an empty holster, which in a volatile situation simply ramps up LEO anxiety and leads to a shooting.

Now, he may seen the gun in the other agent's hand, but this picture you have provided proves nothing of the sort.

No, I'm not defending this shoot, but pointing out this picture that does nothing more than suggest the agent could be in a reasonable frame of mind to shoot.

He literally watches his moronic cohort, remove the firearm from Pretti's holster, draws his own weapon, and fires into Pretti's back.

The mental gymnastics you guys are willing to go through to try to disbelieve what you are watching is one of the most impressive acts of collective cognitive dissonance ever witnessed in human history.

 

[NorthDallas40]

So I broke the news…well at least what was coming and said it’ll be interesting viewing the reactions forthcoming…mommy look at the bad man

 

[luthervol]

If you have been convicted of a felony, then by definition you are a felon.

And if you have committed multiple felonies but have yet to be convicted, you are not a felon.......even though you have committed multiple felonies.

Seems dumb, but I get it.
If you commit crimes, you are a criminal.
If you lie, you are a liar,
If you cheat, you are a cheater.
But if you commit felonies, you are not a felon until actually convicted.

Seems to make the term "convicted felon" redundant and pointless....why would anyone ever say "convicted felon".

 

[InVOLuntary]

I think most on here said Babbit put herself in that situation to be shot and killed

Killing MAGA is ok. It's celebrated.

 

[LSU-SIU]

So to recap:

They are targeting sanctuary cities because those cities don't work with ICE, and

They are not self proclaimed "sanctuary cities or states" because they don't work with the federal government. You didn't know it was a crime to harbor criminals including illegals.

Its not a complex problem. If I wanted to find criminals, I would go to your house.

President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

This is actually a good thing, its easier to identify who should be scheduled for termination.

Where do I go to arrest illegals and their co-conspirators -> sanctuary cities
Where do I go to arrest people that have committed federal crimes -> follow pardons to Biden's house
Where do I go to terminate employees with insane political agendas > look at the agency office structure on their website

They are providing roadmaps and identification marks.

January 22, 2025.

 

[EasternVol]

Her heavy right foot on the accelerator didn't help her situation either.

You're confusing two separate occurrences.

 

[LSU-SIU]

And if you have committed multiple felonies but have yet to be convicted, you are not a felon.......even though you have committed multiple felonies.

Seems dumb, but I get it.
If you commit crimes, you are a criminal.
If you lie, you are a liar,
If you cheat, you are a cheater.
But if you commit felonies, you are not a felon until actually convicted.

Seems to make the term "convicted felon" redundant and pointless....why would anyone ever say "convicted felon".

If you act like a nut, you are insane.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

I think most on here said Babbit put herself in that situation to be shot and killed

That's one thing. It's been brought up in here endlessly in regards to the recent incidents. Amd you know what? It's fine. You can disagree and debate all day as to whether or not Babbit, Good, and others could have easily avoided death on those days. It's why we're on here.

What we cannot allow ourselves to sink to is a level in which we are salivating at the thought of it. It's fomenting in here, and it's a line that you can't retrace once you cross it.

We can disagree on just about anything all day, but that sh*t is far beyond the scope of political alignment. It's a line that separates the sane from the deranged.

 

[Matt2496]

So to recap:

They are targeting sanctuary cities because those cities don't work with ICE, and

A) that's where all the criminals will be caught,

B) this is retribution for their policies and opposition to Trump,

C) they're trying to foment insurrection, and/or

D) there is no clear motive, they're just stupid.

Their 1,360 lie has been debunked and Homan, the guy who knows the most about running ICE, strongly believed the best strategy was in high-density cities with cooperative governments.

So now that A is eliminated, who is changing their minds? Probably nobody.

I am certain we'll see some of you in here again claiming Minneapolis is just good strategy.

The fact that so few illegals are actually being caught in Minnesota as a percentage and given how vocal the Minnesota Dems have been at resisting Trump's efforts, I tend to lean towards B.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Killing MAGA is ok. It's celebrated.

Killing anybody isn’t celebrated by a rationale person. Using extremism examples doesn’t justify obviously wrong behavior

 

[GAVol]

He literally watches his moronic cohort, remove the firearm from Pretti's holster, draws his own weapon, and fires into Pretti's back.

The mental gymnastics you guys are willing to go through to try to disbelieve what you are watching is one of the most impressive acts of collective cognitive dissonance ever witnessed in human history.

That’s exactly the problem I see. People on both sides would rather support a narrative than use their brain.

 

[hndog609]

And if you have committed multiple felonies but have yet to be convicted, you are not a felon.......even though you have committed multiple felonies.

Seems dumb, but I get it.
If you commit crimes, you are a criminal.
If you lie, you are a liar,
If you cheat, you are a cheater.
But if you commit felonies, you are not a felon until actually convicted.

Seems to make the term "convicted felon" redundant and pointless....why would anyone ever say "convicted felon".

To differentiate from being convicted of some lesser crime most likely I'm guessing.

Strictly speaking to call someone a felon would at least strongly imply "convicted" was to be assumed but that might not always be the case. If it suits people to do so (either side) to call someone a felon that's merely been charged as such well...welcome to modern political discourse.