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Look we understand in Mother Russia rights are granted by Putin. Here in your guest country we have a constitution with a bill of rights. What I pointed to is covered in the first two amendments. You should go read it before you post anymore.
Slightly disagree. Here rights and granted by G-d and affirmed by the constitution/bill of rights.

We hold these truths to be self-evident,
that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness…
 
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You have eyes don’t you? Go to the 45 second mark. The agent who fires the shots clearly see him grab his gun and that’s when he pulls his own and then shoots him.


You wont get through to someone living vicariously through government oppressors who they "think" are on their side.
 
Slightly disagree. Here rights and granted by G-d and affirmed by the constitution/bill of rights.

We hold these truths to be self-evident,
that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness…
I actually didn’t say rights are granted by the constitution. I only said in they are granted by Putin in Russia. I agree with you 100% my reference to the BoR is because that is where they are elucidated
 
If this is real at least one MN elected official is working to de-escalate and encouraging bilateral talks and negotiation

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Feds need to reduce ICE’s profile and numbers.
Resistance leaders need to quiet operations.

We need a damn cease fire in Minneapolis.
 
I mean its the Constitution. Innocent until PROVEN guilty. Felony is a government label not the act of the crime itself.

OJ is a murderer, but not a felon. He actually did the crime=murder and thus is a murderer. "Felon" can only be determined by a court.
It depends on which source we use.

FELON Definition & Meaning​

Merriam-Webster
https://www.merriam-webster.com › dictionary › felon


1. One who has committed a felony. 2. Archaic : villain. 3. A painful abscess of the deep tissues of the palmar surface of the fingertip that is typically ...
 
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Ah I see you fell hook line and sinker for the Foxnews rage bait headline. Your story doesn't change the fact that federal agents are killing and illegally detaining American citizens.
I haven’t even seen Fox talk about it but I did see this guys opinion on it though.

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As a former Special Forces Warrant Officer with multiple rotations running counterinsurgency ops—both hunting insurgents and trying to separate them from sympathetic populations—I’ve seen organized resistance up close. From Anbar to Helmand, the pattern is familiar: spotters, cutouts, dead drops (or modern equivalents), disciplined comms, role specialization, and a willingness to absorb casualties while bleeding the stronger force slowly.

What’s unfolding in Minneapolis right now isn’t “protest.” It’s low-level insurgency infrastructure, built by people who’ve clearly studied the playbook.

Signal groups at 1,000-member cap per zone. Dedicated roles: mobile chasers, plate checkers logging vehicle data into shared databases, 24/7 dispatch nodes vectoring assets, SALUTE-style reporting (Size, Activity, Location, Unit, Time, Equipment) on suspected federal vehicles. Daily chat rotations and timed deletions to frustrate forensic recovery. Vetting processes for new joiners. Mutual aid from sympathetic locals (teachers providing cover, possible PD tip-offs on license plate lookups). Home-base coordination points. Rapid escalation from observation to physical obstruction—or worse.

This isn’t spontaneous outrage. This is C2 (command and control) with redundancy, OPSEC hygiene, and task organization that would make a SF team sergeant nod in recognition. Replace “ICE agents” with “occupying coalition forces” and the structure maps almost 1:1 to early-stage urban cells we hunted in the mid-2000s.

The most sobering part? It’s domestic. Funded, trained (somewhere), and directed by people who live in the same country they’re trying to paralyze law enforcement in. When your own citizens build and operate this level of parallel intelligence and rapid-response network against federal officers—complete with doxxing, vehicle pursuits, and harassment that’s already turned lethal—you’re no longer dealing with civil disobedience. You’re facing a distributed resistance that’s learned the lessons of successful insurgencies: stay below the kinetic threshold most of the time, force over-reaction when possible, maintain popular support through narrative, and never present a single center of gravity.

I spent years training partner forces to dismantle exactly this kind of apparatus. Now pieces of it are standing up in American cities, enabled by elements of local government and civil society. That should keep every thinking American awake at night.

Not because I want escalation. But because history shows these things don’t de-escalate on their own once the infrastructure exists and the cadre believe they’re winning the information war.

We either recognize what we’re actually looking at—or we pretend it’s still just “activism” until the structures harden and spread.

Your call, America. But from where I sit, this isn’t January 2026 politics anymore.
It’s phase one of something we’ve spent decades trying to keep off our own soil.
 
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I haven’t even seen Fox talk about it but I did see this guys opinion on it though.

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As a former Special Forces Warrant Officer with multiple rotations running counterinsurgency ops—both hunting insurgents and trying to separate them from sympathetic populations—I’ve seen organized resistance up close. From Anbar to Helmand, the pattern is familiar: spotters, cutouts, dead drops (or modern equivalents), disciplined comms, role specialization, and a willingness to absorb casualties while bleeding the stronger force slowly.

What’s unfolding in Minneapolis right now isn’t “protest.” It’s low-level insurgency infrastructure, built by people who’ve clearly studied the playbook.

Signal groups at 1,000-member cap per zone. Dedicated roles: mobile chasers, plate checkers logging vehicle data into shared databases, 24/7 dispatch nodes vectoring assets, SALUTE-style reporting (Size, Activity, Location, Unit, Time, Equipment) on suspected federal vehicles. Daily chat rotations and timed deletions to frustrate forensic recovery. Vetting processes for new joiners. Mutual aid from sympathetic locals (teachers providing cover, possible PD tip-offs on license plate lookups). Home-base coordination points. Rapid escalation from observation to physical obstruction—or worse.

This isn’t spontaneous outrage. This is C2 (command and control) with redundancy, OPSEC hygiene, and task organization that would make a SF team sergeant nod in recognition. Replace “ICE agents” with “occupying coalition forces” and the structure maps almost 1:1 to early-stage urban cells we hunted in the mid-2000s.

The most sobering part? It’s domestic. Funded, trained (somewhere), and directed by people who live in the same country they’re trying to paralyze law enforcement in. When your own citizens build and operate this level of parallel intelligence and rapid-response network against federal officers—complete with doxxing, vehicle pursuits, and harassment that’s already turned lethal—you’re no longer dealing with civil disobedience. You’re facing a distributed resistance that’s learned the lessons of successful insurgencies: stay below the kinetic threshold most of the time, force over-reaction when possible, maintain popular support through narrative, and never present a single center of gravity.

I spent years training partner forces to dismantle exactly this kind of apparatus. Now pieces of it are standing up in American cities, enabled by elements of local government and civil society. That should keep every thinking American awake at night.

Not because I want escalation. But because history shows these things don’t de-escalate on their own once the infrastructure exists and the cadre believe they’re winning the information war.

We either recognize what we’re actually looking at—or we pretend it’s still just “activism” until the structures harden and spread.

Your call, America. But from where I sit, this isn’t January 2026 politics anymore.
It’s phase one of something we’ve spent decades trying to keep off our own soil.
*ChatGPT's opinion
 
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Yes I have seen all that. I think when he was disarmed the weapon accidentally went off. With other officers yelling gun gun gun with the weapon going off they shot him. Pretti definitely reached and grabbed his other magazine though

Not sure about that. But the idiots blowing whistles 100% adds to the chaos and makes incidents like this more likely.
 
This shooting pretty much falls on one guy. Investigate him publicly and prosecute him goes a long way towards restoring faith in the system.

Agreed. The chaos created by the protesters gives me some level of empathy for him. But he should stand trial for sure.
 

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