Too much ice

[Orangeslice13]

You do know that almost no LEO agency does it's own singular investigation in shootings that result in death right?

Ya…..because being investigated by a different department changes everything. Wait, no it doesn’t
Present the case to the grand jury. The citizens decide the fate of those who protect/oppress us

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

My understanding from a career law enforcement officer is that ICE receives significantly less training that other law enforcement. Tactics, procedures, gear, across the board.

Did federal law enforcement during the 1990s generally wear masks? No.

Law enforcement in the 1920s didn't wear bullet proof vests either. What's your point?

 

[hog88]

Or the opposite argument by liberals.

Kyle Rittenhouse defending himself from armed attacker = bad.
A liberal with a gun and 2 extra loaded magazines attacking law enforcement = doesn't deserve to be shot

The guy didn’t attack LE.

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

 

[hog88]

My understanding from a career law enforcement officer is that ICE receives significantly less training that other law enforcement. Tactics, procedures, gear, across the board.

Did federal law enforcement during the 1990s generally wear masks? No.

You see the videos of the Waco raid? Masked up thugs.

 

[General Jack]

ICE is in every state doing operations, why is one city the only one causing chaos do you think?

Because that's where people are being killed by federal agents?

What would you do if federal agents, during let's say the Obama administration, were killing presumably right-leaning citizens in your neighborhood?

 

[Orangeslice13]

he wasgiving the facts of what happened.

Here is the spin (lie) being given by Walz as described by Jonathan Turley:

"Walz just said we are being "shot in the face coming out of donut shops." This is not a presser, it is a rage fest by Walz...

Gov. Walz is again inflaming the mob. He is effectively declaring this to be the murder of a citizen who had a permit to carry this weapon. He is saying that the state not the federal government will control the investigation. He does not have that authority...

The state can clearly have a parallel investigation and the federal government can do a joint investigation. However, he cannot dictate how or who will conduct the investigation...

With thousands in the streets, Walz just did all that he could to give them license for their rage. Most of us would never call this a lawful or unlawful shooting based on one videotape...

Walz calling for his own investigation is a bit odd when he is actively engaged in his version of Red Queen justice of a "sentence first -- verdict afterwards...

Walz just said "quit referring to these people as law enforcement." That is a new low from the governor. These are law enforcement officers who put their lives on the line every day. To say that they are not law enforcement is to further enable the rage..."


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any riots tonight, Walz should be arrested

Our politicians should also be treated as any other citizen. They’re incite riots, they go to trial

 

[Rickyvol77]

he wasgiving the facts of what happened.

Here is the spin (lie) being given by Walz as described by Jonathan Turley:

"Walz just said we are being "shot in the face coming out of donut shops." This is not a presser, it is a rage fest by Walz...

Gov. Walz is again inflaming the mob. He is effectively declaring this to be the murder of a citizen who had a permit to carry this weapon. He is saying that the state not the federal government will control the investigation. He does not have that authority...

The state can clearly have a parallel investigation and the federal government can do a joint investigation. However, he cannot dictate how or who will conduct the investigation...

With thousands in the streets, Walz just did all that he could to give them license for their rage. Most of us would never call this a lawful or unlawful shooting based on one videotape...

Walz calling for his own investigation is a bit odd when he is actively engaged in his version of Red Queen justice of a "sentence first -- verdict afterwards...

Walz just said "quit referring to these people as law enforcement." That is a new low from the governor. These are law enforcement officers who put their lives on the line every day. To say that they are not law enforcement is to further enable the rage..."


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any riots tonight, Walz should be arrested

Look at the difference Walz has here versus what he said about the Somali MPD officer who murdered that white woman asking for help a few years back

"When asked about the accusations that the BCA was incompetent and made mistakes in the trial, Walz said, "We have asked for and we're getting all the evidence and the background on where this came from. I need to understand what happened here and what brought up those accusations and to understand whether we can validate them and if we do, what are the processes to move to alleviate that. Let us find the facts before we rush to judgment in this tragedy"

 

[Carl Pickens]

The kill shot to ms Good was to her temple fired by Ross when he was well away from the car and in no danger. Ross fired thru her window and should be charged with murder.

There seems to be more ice agents in Minneapolis than aliens. The reason is to hopefully give Trump a reason to suspend election thru he nuclear option.

There's over 2 million illegals in Texas, why not send ice to ft worth or Amarillo ,that's correct those are red cities in a red state that doesn't need invasion

 

[Orangeslice13]

Because that's where people are being killed by federal agents?

What would you do if federal agents, during let's say the Obama administration, were killing presumably right-leaning citizens in your neighborhood?

I’d blame my politicians for ignoring law and causing the paramilitary to show up in my neighborhood

 

[NorthDallas40]

SIAP:

BCA blocked 2x from accessing scene to conduct an investigation. Secured search warrant still blocked.

Absolutely ridiculous. ICE doesn’t think they need judicial warrants to enter a home but they completely ignore a judicial warrant that isn’t even required for a neutral investigative team to process the shooting scene. They keep tripping over their own feet on the optics of the whole situation and they’re gonna wind up getting their agents killed pretty soon probably in retaliation

 

[Rickyvol77]

My understanding from a career law enforcement officer is that ICE receives significantly less training that other law enforcement. Tactics, procedures, gear, across the board.

Did federal law enforcement during the 1990s generally wear masks? No.

Ummmm so you are unfamiliar with LE in the 1990s AND their specific training huh?

 

[hog88]

I’d blame my politicians for ignoring law and causing the paramilitary to show up in my neighborhood

And I dang sure wouldn’t put myself in a position to be killed by one of them.

 

[Carl Pickens]

He was on his hands at first, then went to the ground and allowed an agent to take one arm behind him before the guy sprayed him

But had he not been an idiot and inserted himself into harm’s way he wouldn’t have been sprayed….would he?

 

[Rickyvol77]

Ya…..because being investigated by a different department changes everything. Wait, no it doesn’t
Present the case to the grand jury. The citizens decide the fate of those who protect/oppress us

Every DA in the country DOES look at these cases and decides if charges need to be filed....this already happens everywhere

 

[Rickyvol77]

who got beaten?

 

[VolinMichigan]

where are all the “don’t tread on me” folks who hold the 2A as gospel on federal agents masked and not identifying themselves entering homes without warrants? Then blocking state investigators (with an actual warrant) and FBI investigators from carrying out their own independent investigations? States rights over federal government? Where are you at? Saying a guy was trying to massacre agents while legally carrying a concealed weapon and being executed with his hands on the ground? Where are you at? Because it seems like you’re all loving the treading so far.

 

[Smokey123]

Kyle Rittenhouse isn't "good" but legally can defend himself against violent armed felons appropriately and legally

ICE officers didn't know what this guy's politics were (although it might have been obvious on one issue) however he wasn't "shot on site" either

Hope this helps

And this guy can legally carry and ICE has no jurisdiction over him.

Hope this helps

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

He was sprayed, beaten, and executed because he refused to lay down and take a beating by these wannabe cop thugs. This country is a shell of itself.

 

[jmacvols1]

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.......like I keep saying, the left has no valid argument on anything.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

And this guy can legally carry and ICE has no jurisdiction over him.

Hope this helps

wow.

 

[appvol]

ICE is in every state doing operations, why is one city the only one causing chaos do you think?

I have said this before. I hate it for the illegal that has been over here for a long time and never caused a problem. They are here illegally though. With what the Biden Administration did letting in so many illegals some of those people are going to get caught up now since something had to be done. I will never understand sanctuary cities and them not helping DHS get rid of illegals when they get arrested.

 

[hog88]

wow.

He’s not wrong.

 

[VolinMichigan]

Our politicians should also be treated as any other citizen. They’re incite riots, they go to trial

That would have been great for January 6. Oh yea, the republicans and Trump pardoned all the people that assaulted Leo’s and want to pay them money as well.

 

[Smokey123]

wow.

Where am I wrong bud