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MG1968 said:
I'm not the one who championed lowering the standards. It was liberals like you who didn't think blacks were as smart as whites, Asians and Hispanics and fought to dumb down the entrance exams in order to allow more blacks to become police officers.

The natural and unintended consequence of that policy is that more dumb whites can become cops.
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1. I've never personally championed lowering police standards in any form. And if you were semiliterate you could actually go back and see where I've mentioned that standards should be raised.

2. I would be extremely interested in seeing you provide some sort of proof of these race based policies you're claiming exist.
 
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hog88 said:
Care to explain another reason?
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MG1968 said:
I'm not the one who championed lowering the standards. It was liberals like you who didn't think blacks were as smart as whites, Asians and Hispanics and fought to dumb down the entrance exams in order to allow more blacks to become police officers.

The natural and unintended consequence of that policy is that more dumb whites can become cops.
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Hog, you're just not too bright are you? He literally just admitted what was obvious to anyone who can read.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Hog, you're just not too bright are you? He literally just admitted what was obvious to anyone who can read.
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I'm far brighter than you, proven and indisputable fact.

I see nothing racist in his post, the standards were lowered. As a result less intelligent applicants of all races benefited.
 
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Vol8188 said:
1. I've never personally championed lowering police standards in any form. And if you were semiliterate you could actually go back and see where I've mentioned that standards should be raised.

2. I would be extremely interested in seeing you provide some sort of proof of these race based policies you're claiming exist.
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DOJ Pressured City of Dayton to Lower Testing Standards for Police Recruits to Accommodate Minority Candidates - Judicial Watch

According to a report by Dayton’s ABC News affiliate on March 11, 2011, the ultimate compromise struck between the City of Dayton and the DOJ resulted in a lowering of test standards for Police Department candidates:

The Dayton Police Department is lowering its testing standards for recruits. It’s a move required by the U.S. Department of Justice after it says not enough African-Americans passed the exam. Dayton is in desperate need of officers to replace dozens of retirees. The hiring process was postponed for months because the D.O.J. rejected the original scores provided by the Dayton Civil Service Board, which administers the test.Under the previous requirements, candidates had to get a 66% on part one of the exam and a 72% on part two. The D.O.J. approved new scoring policy only requires potential police officers to get a 58% and a 63%. That’s the equivalent of an ‘F’ and a ‘D’.
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Raising Education Standards Could Be The Key To Better Policing | ThinkProgress
 
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Vol8188 said:
And how many of these recent murders occurred in Dayton?
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none that we know of

It will become a vicious cycle, if it hasn't already. Standards get lowered, garbage applies and becomes cops. You raise the standards, like my second link suggests, and minority applications plummet. Activists decry the lack of diversity in police forces. Standards get lowered.

Maybe you're right though, and all white cops who shoot blacks are racists. What then? How do you weed the racists out of PDs?
 
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Vol8188 said:
And how many of these recent murders occurred in Dayton?
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He provided you with evidence of his argument (evidence that you requested) and you now change your point. So essentially what you are saying is law officers dont kill white people.
 
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jp1 said:
He provided you with evidence of his argument (evidence that you requested) and you now change your point. So essentially what you are saying is law officers dont kill white people.
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Not at all. That's not even close to what I'm saying, nor did he prove his point. I've never even mentioned what color of people police kill.

His claim was that lower standards have correlated to increased police brutality. But he has so far only shown me 1 city that has lowered its standards, and 0 examples of police brutality from that city.
 
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MG1968 said:
none that we know of

It will become a vicious cycle, if it hasn't already. Standards get lowered, garbage applies and becomes cops. You raise the standards, like my second link suggests, and minority applications plummet. Activists decry the lack of diversity in police forces. Standards get lowered.

Maybe you're right though, and all white cops who shoot blacks are racists. What then? How do you weed the racists out of PDs?
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I'm not disagree with the suggestion of raising standards. I agree they should be raised. and I would argue that better psychological screening could weed out many racists. Some people will always slip through the cracks.
 
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Bigurnge said:
I can only think of one where murder would fit the bill recently and that was in Charleston.
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Here's a few examples from the past year, I'm sure I missed some:

Small child shot in the face while sleeping on the couch during a no knock home invasion. Fortunately, it wasn't a murder, but not because of a lack of effort on the polices part.

Mentally handicapped man died after being tackled and held down by a cop because he simply disagreed with an employee an a local theatre.

Handcuffed woman killed by police.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Strange that it's not "certain demographic groups" as your racist ass implies, who are killing unarmed men and women at a frightening rate.
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With this statement you weren't implying that white officers were gunning down blacks at an alarming rate? If not, then my bad.
 
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jp1 said:
With this statement you weren't implying that white officers were gunning down blacks at an alarming rate? If not, then my bad.
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I implied that white officers were killing people at alarming rates. Not all of which are black.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Here's a few examples from the past year, I'm sure I missed some:

Small child shot in the face while sleeping on the couch during a no knock home invasion. Fortunately, it wasn't a murder, but not because of a lack of effort on the polices part.

Mentally handicapped man died after being tackled and held down by a cop because he simply disagreed with an employee an a local theatre.

Handcuffed woman killed by police.
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19YO in Utah playing with katana sword he got at Comic Con. Of course the officers said he lunged at them with the sword. Oh yeah...he's 1 of 15 black kids in Utah county. They managed to kill one, somehow.
 
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hog88 said:
Educational standards lowered for new Asheville police

Fewer applicants put pressure on cops to lower ideal

Dallas Police Assoc. claims testing standards were lowered for r - Fox4News.com | Dallas-Fort Worth News, Weather, Sports

Public Safety Workers Blast Ohio City's Decision to Lower Police Recruit Standard | Fox News

DOJ Pressured City of Dayton to Lower Testing Standards for Police Recruits to Accommodate Minority Candidates - Judicial Watch

Police Chief Magazine - View Article

Are these enough links for you?
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I'll address these order:

1. In Ashville they simply lowered their standard back to that of local area. And no major cases have came from Asheville.

2. This is the first story again. Maybe you should read things before posting, just a thought.

3. This link was not about educational standards, but driving standards. And it doesn't even say for a fact that they were lowered, just that some people believe they were.

4. This is another link about Dayton again. You realize that showing the same example three times, doesn't mean something is happening more frequently, right?

5. Dayton again....

6. This link isn't about educational standards either. It's about allowing people with a past history of marijuana use into low enforcement.

Great job on learning to copy and paste ****! Maybe tomorrow you can learn to copy and paste relevant **** too.
 
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The real issue here isn't standards it's pay. You can't start someone at 30k and expect to get the best and brightest.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Perhaps I should rephrase: how many police brutality incidents have occurred there?
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Lots. You dont know about it because the media picks and chooses what they are going to turn into a sh!tstorm. It is funny watching the networks act all concerned about Baltimore when it is their reckless reporting that caused it.

Zimmerman/Martin is a great example. That was a non story for MONTHS until someone decided to splash it nationwide to get traction. Yet the white kids torutred/raped/murdered in Knoxville got zero attention.

Think about it. Some white kids get treated like a bad Eli Roth film..no one says anything. No national outrage. No looting. No riots. Some criminals die in police custody and all hell breaks loose. Hell most of the protesters in Baltimore dont even know the name of the guy who died in custody.

The media knows for ratings nothing beats a good race story, but it has to be against blacks so they can lure in all the white guilt.
 
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