To Protect and to Serve II

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hog88 said:
Dad almost strangled a young deputy who left a gate open and let some heifers out. He thought it a good idea to come up into the field thinking he was going to catch us spotlighting, we were delivering a calf. Another one stopped me while spreading manure because of the smell, I accidentally kicked the PTO in and covered his car.

Granddad almost shot an ABC officer poking around his shed. That was a mess.

Game Warden, brand new to the area tried to ticket me and take my rifle for hunting without a license. He refused to believe it was our land. He was wrong.

In the end they all worked out once cooler heads with some sense got involved.
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All law enforcement should be forced to watch and learn from The Andy Griffith Show
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
I have no issues with that. First thing I do is introduce myself; tell you why I am there; and ask you for your cooperation. I didn't come there for a fight, and I'd prefer to not have one, or inadvertently start one.


When I run into the "you ain't got no right to be in my yard" greeting, which is rare but does happen, I try to explain why I am there, including my legal standing to be there. If they don't want to hear it, I retreat. Like I said, I didn't come there to fight.


If it is, or turns into, the kind of stuff that makes the 11 o'clock news, I let the green jumpsuits handle it. I'm too old for that nonsense now.
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I get really agitated when it's the officer that doesn't know the law. More often then not they get an "oops" that a civilian wouldn't get. Take the case of Trevor Putnam.

Knoxville PD apologizes for open carry incident in Wal-Mart - 2nd Amendment Issues - TNGunOwners.com

When an officer can't be bothered to know something as important as the firearms carry law in his community I've got no use for the guy carrying his gun in said community.
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
Your assertion is incorrect, however...it IS your right to be wrong.

I hope no one ever gets hurt, including you, because of your flawed assumptions. All I ask is that, if you really believe that, please do not get confrontational with anyone who in fact does have legal standing to be on your property, whether you understand it or not.

My home is my castle, and I live in a "Castle Doctrine" state. But there are limits, and restrictions, on what I can and cannot do if someone enters on to my property with legal standing. If you think this is all about "cops", it's not. It extends to utility workers as well, for example.

I agree with your premise, but as is the case with all things, it pays to read the fine print.

:hi:
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Interesting story right here...

Houston Brothers trial(s) in Roane County - VolNation
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Interesting story right here...

Houston Brothers trial(s) in Roane County - VolNation
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I'm familiar. And you're intelligent enough to know that this is an example of how two wrongs don't make a right.

You're cherry-picking, Ras. If you have to use this incident to make your point, you don't have a point. This was a modern day Hatfield & McCoy story. Both sides were wrong.

But I'll counter. 2009. Lakewood, Washington. Any idea what they did wrong?

I'm sure Rocky or Leon could explain it to you.
 
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golfballs said:
Interesting case

Supreme Court backs Arizona policeman accused of excessive force | Reuters
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A couple of questions come to mind right off the bat.

1. Why are university police responding to an off campus home instead of the Tuscon police?

2. Since they were off campus and, apparently outside of these officers jurisdiction, wouldn't they be acting as private citizens instead of LEO?

3. And if number 2 is the case, shouldn't that prevent them from being able to "hide behind the badge" in this case?
 
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