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Illinois Town Bypasses Constitution, US Citizens Given 60 Days To Turn In Guns Or Become Criminals



Predictably, law enforcement and retired law enforcement members of the community are exempted from the ban. Currently, in the U.S., law enforcement kills around 1,200 citizens per year. Ironically, that number is actually four times higher than those who die from rifles.

As TFTP has reported, cops have killed 450 percent more people than have died in the past forty years of mass shootings.
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Do you see anything wrong with this cop exemption?
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No I agree with you. Of course it’s crap.

When we saw it we knew you were gonna lose your damn mind over it though😬

I wouldn’t sweat it. The NRA has thrown their resources behind it and it violates FOPA1986. It shouldn’t survive appeal. 👍
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
No I agree with you. Of course it’s crap.

When we saw it we knew you were gonna lose your damn mind over it though😬

I wouldn’t sweat it. The NRA has thrown their resources behind it and it violates FOPA1986. It shouldn’t survive appeal. 👍
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If anything, the cops should the ones disarmed, not the citizens...

As TFTP has reported, cops have killed 450 percent more people than have died in the past forty years of mass shootings.
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Man shot at 57 times during raid over $100 pot sale gets $2.75 million settlement - The Washington Post
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I first wrote about Julian Betton’s case in my 2016 series on policing in South Carolina. Betton was raided by a multi-jurisdictional narcotics task force after a police informant bought $50 worth of marijuana from him two times. The police broke down Betton’s door with a battering ram, then fired at least 57 bullets at him, hitting him nine times. He lost portions of his gallbladder, colon, bowel and rectum, and is paralyzed from the waist down. He also suffered damage to his liver, lung, small intestine and pancreas. Two of his vertebrae were damaged, and another was partially destroyed. Another bullet shattered his leg.
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My gawd... they didn't even have the common decency to just kill him.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Man shot at 57 times during raid over $100 pot sale gets $2.75 million settlement - The Washington Post
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Not nearly enough in monetary retribution.

DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
WATCH: During Raid on Wrong Home Cops Kill Innocent Unarmed Dad—No Charges
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No excuse with these wrong house raids. Unbelievable that it happens, everyone involved up the chain of command needs to see jail time for incompetence and an inability to carry out the duties of their jobs.


I am a firm believer that there are more good and decent cops than bad. One of the hardest jobs there is, dealing with the lowest scum and types of humans imaginable, and these cops see things that are truly terrible.

They are just people, and like people there are all types. What's sad is that the ignorance and stupidity and intolerable actions of some, does so much damage to the reputation and perception of the good guys and the good things that cops actually do.
 
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tennvols77 said:
Not nearly enough in monetary retribution.



No excuse with these wrong house raids. Unbelievable that it happens, everyone involved up the chain of command needs to see jail time for incompetence and an inability to carry out the duties of their jobs.


I am a firm believer that there are more good and decent cops than bad. One of the hardest jobs there is, dealing with the lowest scum and types of humans imaginable, and these cops see things that are truly terrible.

They are just people, and like people there are all types. What's sad is that the ignorance and stupidity and intolerable actions of some, does so much damage to the reputation and perception of the good guys and the good things that cops actually do.
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Fire the chain of command.... the police received a call Saying someone had killed someone and had the children held hostage....the person at fault is the one that made the prank call.
 
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volbeast33 said:
Fire the chain of command.... the police received a call Saying someone had killed someone and had the children held hostage....the person at fault is the one that made the prank call.
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No argument this person deserves life in prison as a result of what occurred as a life was taken because of his call.

Understanding it's easy to dissect a decision that is made in seconds or milliseconds as a civilian trying to judge what happened, it is important to note that the decision to act as they did without any type of verification which could have prevented the shooting is an issue.

There needs to be some type of "pre" assessment to determine the actual accusation before acting as they did. Once again, as a civilian easy to say, but, they receive the call and have to assume the worst to be prepared, but, that is the issue as the situation was wrong.

The police have at this point a situation that was wrong, and they acted on the wrong information. There has to be some type of restraint to verify the situation as real before they can actually act accordingly. They didn't, and once again easy to second guess after the fact, but, there were probably a myriad of other ways they could have and should have approached the situation.

It's a hard thing for anyone who wasn't there to say what should have happened. But, what did happen was wrong and the question is what could have been done differently to avoid the outcome.
 
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I know this won’t be popular by the law enforcement crowd but... I’m sorry, when you show up at an innocent man’s house and gun him down 10 seconds into the encounter while he’s unarmed, the onus should be on you prove deadly force was 100% necessary. And by prove I’m gonna need more than they thought (and we’re wrong af btw) he was reaching for a gun.
 
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And am I the only one who thinks it’s strange how the supposed protectors of society are the only ones who can get away with shooting completely innocent, unarmed people with essentially no consequences?
 
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