To Protect and to Serve II

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VolStrom said:
I guess it sucks to be a *****? How about a ***** times 4? Four grown men cowered down outside of that school while little kids were being slaughtered. Way to man up.
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I'm with you on that point. We do get paid to go in harm's way. I'm all about "go in smart", but go in you must.
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
Now, before you name your next cat after me, bear in mind that I also think that active shooters should be shot down where they stand, like the rabid animals they are. Just wanted to be clear about that.
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Well, let's be clear here. The overwhelming majority of police incidents mentioned in this thread are nowhere near the level of active shooter situations.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Well, let's be clear here. The overwhelming majority of police incidents mentioned in this thread are nowhere near the level of active shooter situations.
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Agreed. I know you harbor no deeply-rooted fond emotions for cops. I'm okay with that; at least you're honest about it. My only concern is whether you just chose to be that way, or someone with a badge made you that way. The former is your problem; the latter is ours.
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
Agreed. I know you harbor no deeply-rooted fond emotions for cops. I'm okay with that; at least you're honest about it. My only concern is whether you just chose to be that way, or someone with a badge made you that way. The former is your problem; the latter is ours.
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Hey GW-
Kind of off topic here...


But why are county cops always cooler and easier going than city and state police?

I’ve never had a cross word with a deputy. I can get the city boys being jumpy considering what and who they deal with on a daily basis but the state police??

Damn. They need to get laid or something...
 
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Biopsyman said:
Why do members of the sheriff department get to drive their cars home?
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Here in Indiana almost all State Troopers and Sheriff Deputies take their cars home. Most have a set "off duty" miles they can put on them and if they go over it they must use their own $$ for gas.
 
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Biopsyman said:
Why do members of the sheriff department get to drive their cars home?
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I could swear I remember a deputy a long time ago tell me it enabled a faster response in a rural environment. If something happens requiring additional LEOs they get their gear, get int the cruiser, and head to the scene.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
I could swear I remember a deputy a long time ago tell me it enabled a faster response in a rural environment. If something happens requiring additional LEOs they get their gear, get int the cruiser, and head to the scene.
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This is why my cousin takes his home. He works his home area. Makes sense to me.

He goes out to his Tahoe, calls in on duty. Works his area. Saves on time and fuel to respond to a call.
 
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Obsessed said:
Hey GW-
Kind of off topic here...


But why are county cops always cooler and easier going than city and state police?

I’ve never had a cross word with a deputy. I can get the city boys being jumpy considering what and who they deal with on a daily basis but the state police??

Damn. They need to get laid or something...
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I'll address this post and the one below it...

I cannot speak for anyone outside of me, my agency, and my experience, both professional and personal, but I can tell you that the full spectrum exists out there. You probably already know that.

I live / work in a largely rural county. My Sheriff has lived here all his life. His mandate to us is a familiar one, and one that I agree with: Treat everyone you encounter like family, right up to the point where you can't, then do what you must do to keep the peace, and/or protect yourself.

He's also a Christian man (just hear me out), so he gets the "Role of the Centurion" mentality. We are peacekeepers first, defenders second, and enforcers last. This is the mentality he expects from us. On that note...in light of recent events...he expects us to charge into the fight if innocents are in peril, and equips us for that fight. I'm a part-timer, but the Sheriff makes sure I have every tool (minus a take-home ride) I need to serve my county. In short, I have the luxury of working for a great Sheriff, and a great agency.

State. Here, it's GSP, and the post I work with is top-notch. They work with us; we work with them; and if not for the difference in the uniform and badge, you'd never know the difference. Yes, they are a bit tougher on traffic enforcement, but that's a big part of what they do.

Move north to Savannah, and you get a totally different picture. The locals do their thing; GSP does their thing; and never the 'twain shall meet.

So I guess it comes down to each locality, because I have seen both ends of it. Like the West Virginia trooper who had me dead-to-rights at 85+ on I-77, and let me go with a "be safe out there", or the Florida trooper who was in the process of writing me a ticket AND giving me the lecture for 81/70 (just north of Port Orange) when I told him to make sure his name and badge number were legible on my copy, because from that day forward all of the Florida officers I stopped for 80+ were going to start getting hard copy instead of warnings, and I wanted them to know why. So I got a warning...and he remains just another anonymous a**hole trooper I met.

Yes, we do "professional courtesy", but I'll lay a Franklin that I have let far many more civilians go than I have fellow officers, so hold off on the lecture.

Take home cars. Common for state and county officers. And yes, so that we can be out the door and rolling if and when a major event happens. Job perk, yes...but many is the time I've rolled out of bed at 2 or 4 am to respond to a major wreck on I-95, or assist another deputy in a chase in my area. One reason I'm glad I don't have one now; they don't expect me to respond anymore.

Hope this helps.
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
I'll address this post and the one below it...

I cannot speak for anyone outside of me, my agency, and my experience, both professional and personal, but I can tell you that the full spectrum exists out there. You probably already know that.

I live / work in a largely rural county. My Sheriff has lived here all his life. His mandate to us is a familiar one, and one that I agree with: Treat everyone you encounter like family, right up to the point where you can't, then do what you must do to keep the peace, and/or protect yourself.

He's also a Christian man (just hear me out), so he gets the "Role of the Centurion" mentality. We are peacekeepers first, defenders second, and enforcers last. This is the mentality he expects from us. On that note...in light of recent events...he expects us to charge into the fight if innocents are in peril, and equips us for that fight. I'm a part-timer, but the Sheriff makes sure I have every tool (minus a take-home ride) I need to serve my county. In short, I have the luxury of working for a great Sheriff, and a great agency.

State. Here, it's GSP, and the post I work with is top-notch. They work with us; we work with them; and if not for the difference in the uniform and badge, you'd never know the difference. Yes, they are a bit tougher on traffic enforcement, but that's a big part of what they do.

Move north to Savannah, and you get a totally different picture. The locals do their thing; GSP does their thing; and never the 'twain shall meet.

So I guess it comes down to each locality, because I have seen both ends of it. Like the West Virginia trooper who had me dead-to-rights at 85+ on I-77, and let me go with a "be safe out there", or the Florida trooper who was in the process of writing me a ticket AND giving me the lecture for 81/70 (just north of Port Orange) when I told him to make sure his name and badge number were legible on my copy, because from that day forward all of the Florida officers I stopped for 80+ were going to start getting hard copy instead of warnings, and I wanted them to know why. So I got a warning...and he remains just another anonymous a**hole trooper I met.

Yes, we do "professional courtesy", but I'll lay a Franklin that I have let far many more civilians go than I have fellow officers, so hold off on the lecture.

Take home cars. Common for state and county officers. And yes, so that we can be out the door and rolling if and when a major event happens. Job perk, yes...but many is the time I've rolled out of bed at 2 or 4 am to respond to a major wreck on I-95, or assist another deputy in a chase in my area. One reason I'm glad I don't have one now; they don't expect me to respond anymore.

Hope this helps.
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Please understand my questions were more or less a poke at the boys other than the county cops (deputy’s)

I will say when I lived in Arkansas, the city cops in fort smith were cool easy going folks. Had one look out for me when I bumped a car in front of me looking for a quick pay out. (I was in a big truck)

Just be safe out GW. And know when I come though Georgia, every cop that may stop me, will get asked if he goes by GW on a Tennessee forum... 😎😎
 
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#4,816
Greywolf is in Georgia? Cool, howdy neighbor!

* though you sound like you’re in South Georgia, and I’m northeast.
 
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joevol33 said:
Greywolf is in Georgia? Cool, howdy neighbor!

* though you sound like you’re in South Georgia, and I’m northeast.
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Yeah, I'm down in the corner. We probably pass near/by you on our way to the Smokies every year. We have abandoned the chaos of I-95/26/40 for the more genteel route using US 441 to come in the back way. Takes about an hour longer, but we avoid the crowds at gas / food / walk the dog stops, and when we get there we're not stressed out, strung out from 57 cups of coffee, and staring straight ahead with a death grip on the wheel. My wife says the number of "Oh my God we're gonna die" moments have all but disappeared since we changed routes. Ha.
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
I'll address this post and the one below it...

I cannot speak for anyone outside of me, my agency, and my experience, both professional and personal, but I can tell you that the full spectrum exists out there. You probably already know that.

I live / work in a largely rural county. My Sheriff has lived here all his life. His mandate to us is a familiar one, and one that I agree with: Treat everyone you encounter like family, right up to the point where you can't, then do what you must do to keep the peace, and/or protect yourself.

He's also a Christian man (just hear me out), so he gets the "Role of the Centurion" mentality. We are peacekeepers first, defenders second, and enforcers last. This is the mentality he expects from us. On that note...in light of recent events...he expects us to charge into the fight if innocents are in peril, and equips us for that fight. I'm a part-timer, but the Sheriff makes sure I have every tool (minus a take-home ride) I need to serve my county. In short, I have the luxury of working for a great Sheriff, and a great agency.

State. Here, it's GSP, and the post I work with is top-notch. They work with us; we work with them; and if not for the difference in the uniform and badge, you'd never know the difference. Yes, they are a bit tougher on traffic enforcement, but that's a big part of what they do.

Move north to Savannah, and you get a totally different picture. The locals do their thing; GSP does their thing; and never the 'twain shall meet.

So I guess it comes down to each locality, because I have seen both ends of it. Like the West Virginia trooper who had me dead-to-rights at 85+ on I-77, and let me go with a "be safe out there", or the Florida trooper who was in the process of writing me a ticket AND giving me the lecture for 81/70 (just north of Port Orange) when I told him to make sure his name and badge number were legible on my copy, because from that day forward all of the Florida officers I stopped for 80+ were going to start getting hard copy instead of warnings, and I wanted them to know why. So I got a warning...and he remains just another anonymous a**hole trooper I met.

Yes, we do "professional courtesy", but I'll lay a Franklin that I have let far many more civilians go than I have fellow officers, so hold off on the lecture.

Take home cars. Common for state and county officers. And yes, so that we can be out the door and rolling if and when a major event happens. Job perk, yes...but many is the time I've rolled out of bed at 2 or 4 am to respond to a major wreck on I-95, or assist another deputy in a chase in my area. One reason I'm glad I don't have one now; they don't expect me to respond anymore.

Hope this helps.
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I live in a city and still see tons of police vehicles parked at their homes.
 
#4,820
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GreyWolf1129 said:
Yeah, I'm down in the corner. We probably pass near/by you on our way to the Smokies every year. We have abandoned the chaos of I-95/26/40 for the more genteel route using US 441 to come in the back way. Takes about an hour longer, but we avoid the crowds at gas / food / walk the dog stops, and when we get there we're not stressed out, strung out from 57 cups of coffee, and staring straight ahead with a death grip on the wheel. My wife says the number of "Oh my God we're gonna die" moments have all but disappeared since we changed routes. Ha.
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Agree completely, when we go up there, that’s the way we go.
 
#4,821
#4,821
Lost a fellow Indiana brother in the LOD today

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A Boone County Sheriff’s deputy in Indiana was fatally shot Friday morning after attempting to apprehend a fleeing suspect, police said.

Jacob Pickett was critically wounded while assisting in the chase and later died, Indiana State Police confirmed in a statement.

Pickett is the first person killed in the line of duty from the Boone County Sheriff's Office since 1935, police said.

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Officers with the Lebanon Police Department were at the scene to serve a woman an outstanding warrant around 9:30 a.m. Friday. They then spotted a man, who they recognized as John D. Baldwin Jr., 28, who also had an outstanding warrant for violation of probation for possession of a syringe, a statement from Indiana State Police said.
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Possession of a syringe? WTF kind of violation is that?
 
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