To Protect and to Serve II

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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Right. The only thing they are beholden to is their own conscience. That's how the public nullifies unjust laws.
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And overzealous prosecutors.

People need to understand most district attorneys are elected officials and most everyone of them run on primarily one thing, their felony conviction rate. This is why they overcharge poor and stupid people then offer them a plea for little to no jail time.
 
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The dash cam video has been released. It shows what happened before the video she took. Normal stop until driver says he has a firearm, officer tells him several times not to pull it out, but he does anyway.

Driver sounds very lethargic. I think it possible he did not understand what the officer was telling him. But the officer cannot know that. Unfortunate but hard to fault the officer, who was professional throughout and had a split second to decide what the driver was doing.
 
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Is he holding the firearm? Or did he pull it out to put in plain view of officer?
 
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lawgator1 said:
The dash cam video has been released. It shows what happened before the video she took. Normal stop until driver says he has a firearm, officer tells him several times not to pull it out, but he does anyway.

Driver sounds very lethargic. I think it possible he did not understand what the officer was telling him. But the officer cannot know that. Unfortunate but hard to fault the officer, who was professional throughout and had a split second to decide what the driver was doing.
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This. Officer was not in the wrong after watching the video. Hindsight makes it a tragedy but it was certainly understandable.

What strikes me as unjust is the fact that the state had this video and still pursued a criminal case. I don't see how you can possibly convict on what we have seen when all facts are released. Per usual.
 
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When Philando Castille was killed, the NRA said they would "have more to say once the facts are known". Here we are a year later and the NRA has remained silent. We're talking about a 2nd amendment martyr right here, and they haven't got **** to say.

The NRA is a joke.
 
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When Philando Castille was killed, the NRA said they would "have more to say once the facts are known". Here we are a year later and the NRA has remained silent. We're talking about a 2nd amendment martyr right here, and they haven't got **** to say.

The NRA is a joke.
 
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n_huffhines said:
When Philando Castille was killed, the NRA said they would "have more to say once the facts are known". Here we are a year later and the NRA has remained silent. We're talking about a 2nd amendment martyr right here, and they haven't got **** to say.

The NRA is a joke.
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Well, that's simple.

Don't join...
 
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n_huffhines said:
When Philando Castille was killed, the NRA said they would "have more to say once the facts are known". Here we are a year later and the NRA has remained silent. We're talking about a 2nd amendment martyr right here, and they haven't got **** to say.

The NRA is a joke.
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Agreed.
 
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McDad said:
Is he holding the firearm? Or did he pull it out to put in plain view of officer?
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He stated that he was carrying and then reached for what we can only presume was the general direction of his back waistband. Whether it was for the gun or his ID, we'll never know.
 
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orangeblood79 said:
He stated that he was carrying and then reached for what we can only presume was the general direction of his back waistband. Whether it was for the gun or his ID, we'll never know.
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Why on earth would somebody politely say "Sir, I do have to tell you I have a firearm on me." and then draw it and shoot at an officer.

There is no excuse that should get this guy out of manslaughter charges.
 
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orangeblood79 said:
He stated that he was carrying and then reached for what we can only presume was the general direction of his back waistband. Whether it was for the gun or his ID, we'll never know.
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That doesnt sound like justified shooting by the officer to me.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Why on earth would somebody politely say "Sir, I do have to tell you I have a firearm on me." and then draw it and shoot at an officer.

There is no excuse that should get this guy out of manslaughter charges.
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If i tell the officer i have CC and firearm, I do NOT reach for it! If officer trigger-finger feels endangered, I let him retrieve and secure the weapon.
 
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lawgator1 said:
The dash cam video has been released. It shows what happened before the video she took. Normal stop until driver says he has a firearm, officer tells him several times not to pull it out, but he does anyway.

Driver sounds very lethargic. I think it possible he did not understand what the officer was telling him. But the officer cannot know that. Unfortunate but hard to fault the officer, who was professional throughout and had a split second to decide what the driver was doing.
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Where are you getting he pulled it out?
 
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McDad said:
If i tell the officer i have CC and firearm, I do NOT reach for it! If officer trigger-finger feels endangered, I let him retrieve and secure the weapon.
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Yeah, I agree. But...

Cop: don't pull it out
Philando: I'm not pulling it out
Cop: don't pull it out!

then 9 or so unanswered shots
 
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n_huffhines said:
Why on earth would somebody politely say "Sir, I do have to tell you I have a firearm on me." and then draw it and shoot at an officer.

There is no excuse that should get this guy out of manslaughter charges.
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The interesting part is Mr. Castile was supposedly pulled over 40+ times over a period of 14 years. One would think this was a person who knew how to handle a police stop.
 
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