To Protect and to Serve II

#526
#526
Rasputin_Vol said:
Cops, don't give me this duty bound nonsense. You all have a duty and an oath to uphold the US Constitution. You all should not be enforcing laws that violate our rights... no matter what the legislation says. If you all wont do it, then the only non-violent alternative left is jury nullification any time one of these cases is tried, which is of little use if they have already taken your blood.

Tennessee troopers set up 'no refusal' checkpoints with mandatory blood draws through Jan. 4
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Almost nothing in your post is accurate or reflective of the real world.

1. Cops are duty bound to enforce laws as written. They are not the interpreters of the constitution and its effect on said laws.

2. Jury nullification isn't the answer. Jury nullification changes nothing other than the outcome of a particular case. Challenging the constitutionality of the law is the mechanism by which unconstitutional laws are removed. Or voting in legislators that will remove or change the law. Ironically, the Republicans most hated organization, the ACLU will likely take up the challenge.
 
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#527
#527
DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Hey, good job cops. Notice the cop switch to a taser.
I'd like to have seen a little more effort in putting out the fire though.

Incredible Body Cam: Cops Confront Man Wielding a Machete & Blowtorch - YouTube
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He did the right thing by covering his partner instead of worrying about the fire. After they got him outside they could have gotten a fire extinguisher out of one of the cruisers and put it out I suppose, but the video cut off before we could see anything like that.

But overall, the first priority is to subdue the subject, cover his partner while handcuffing was taken place, remove the subject/themselves from the dangerous environment and then worry about everything else.
 
#528
#528
Grand Vol said:
He did the right thing by covering his partner instead of worrying about the fire. After they got him outside they could have gotten a fire extinguisher out of one of the cruisers and put it out I suppose, but the video cut off before we could see anything like that.

But overall, the first priority is to subdue the subject, cover his partner while handcuffing was taken place, remove the subject/themselves from the dangerous environment and then worry about everything else.
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Yeah, I agree. I hope the fire extinguisher came out after the camera went off. Good job by the cops here overall though. Freaking blow torch and a machete?? Dude was tripping hard lol
 
#529
#529
ClearwaterVol said:
1. Cops are duty bound to enforce laws as written. They are not the interpreters of the constitution and its effect on said laws.
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They most certainly do make an oath to uphold The Constitution. If arresting someone or enforcing some law violates the Constitution, they are obligated no to do so.

If not, then what good is their f***ing oath?
 
#530
#530
DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Freaking blow torch and a machete??
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That's what we call a badazz lol

However, he met 50,000 volts of "yes sir."

Funny blue line story along those lines, a friend of mine was going into the County Sheriffs department and as many do, he had to spend a year in the county jail as a guard before they would put him out on the streets as a proby. Anyway, he was telling us about this one cat that "I'm gonna eff you pigs up!" and wouldn't come out of his cell for his court appointment. So they get the snatch team (please don't anyone take that out of context) ready to go and the guy gets ready to start charging out. My friend had the taser ready to go and orders him to stop, but the guy comes anyway. So he deploys said taser and something happened on the way to the subject.

Those cartridges have a shelf life on them in case you didn't know. And when that shelf life runs out, they don't quite go the distance.

Prongs went out about two feet and dropped to the floor. My friend was still getting charged and freaked a little before the team tackled him in the hallway and before the perp could get his hands on him.
 
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Grand Vol said:
That's what we call a badazz lol

However, he met 50,000 volts of "yes sir."

Funny blue line story along those lines, a friend of mine was going into the County Sheriffs department and as many do, he had to spend a year in the county jail as a guard before they would put him out on the streets as a proby. Anyway, he was telling us about this one cat that "I'm gonna eff you pigs up!" and wouldn't come out of his cell for his court appointment. So they get the snatch team (please don't anyone take that out of context) ready to go and the guy gets ready to start charging out. My friend had the taser ready to go and orders him to stop, but the guy comes anyway. So he deploys said taser and something happened on the way to the subject.

Those cartridges have a shelf life on them in case you didn't know. And when that shelf life runs out, they don't quite go the distance.

Prongs went out about two feet and dropped to the floor. My friend was still getting charged and freaked a little before the team tackled him in the hallway and before the perp could get his hands on him.
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Hopefully nightsticks were deployed and they smashed his skull in. :good!:
 
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#534
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ClearwaterVol said:
Almost nothing in your post is accurate or reflective of the real world.

1. Cops are duty bound to enforce laws as written. They are not the interpreters of the constitution and its effect on said laws.

2. Jury nullification isn't the answer. Jury nullification changes nothing other than the outcome of a particular case. Challenging the constitutionality of the law is the mechanism by which unconstitutional laws are removed. Or voting in legislators that will remove or change the law. Ironically, the Republicans most hated organization, the ACLU will likely take up the challenge.
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False on both counts.

You can't reasonably expect cops to enforce every law. It's absurd.

Don't limit our checks and balances, please.
 
#535
#535
Soooo, nothing on the Philly Cop ambush??? Shouldve deployed his taser?
 
#539
#539
Wearing a ski mask on a cold night is against the law now?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfJ5jZyf_yU[/youtube]
 
#543
#543
Rasputin_Vol said:
Obviously, no crime was committed or they would have been arrested... unless you call wearing a ski mask on a cold night a crime.
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I'm guessing those cops weren't out there randomly harassing two individuals for no reason. Several times those guys make attempts at threats at the cops, and towards the end one cop makes a comment back and the ski-masker freaks out with "are you threatening me!?!?!?!"

Those guys are thugs.
 
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#544
#544
Hmmmm

Stopped at Arby's for lunch. Two cop cars came in, four cops. I wasn't bothered but I just know they wanted to taze me and beat me. But I think they realized it was not fair. There was only four of them.
:)
 
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#545
Obsessed said:
Hmmmm

Stopped at Arby's for lunch. Two cop cars came in, four cops. I wasn't bothered but I just know they wanted to taze me and beat me. But I think they realized it was not fair. There was only four of them.
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Good thing they didn't see your smokes....
 
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#549
#549
I started watching Making A Murderer last night on Netflix. The cops put a royal screwing on that guy with the sexual assault conviction. I haven't gotten far enough along in the show to have any opinion on the second set of charges, but it seems fishy too. Any of you guys seen this?
 
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