To Protect and to Serve II

[MOOOOONEY]

Minneapolis just voted to completely “dismantle” their police force and replace it with a “community-based public safety model.”

Scary stuff.

Will the tax paying citizens get a refund?

 

[Orangeslice13]

There could possibly be a mass exodus from there. However, people in low-income areas won’t be able to escape...

And private security will create a bigger divide between the haves and the nots

 

[Matt2496]

Minneapolis just voted to completely “dismantle” their police force and replace it with a “community-based public safety model.”

Scary stuff.

If I lived near Minneapolis, I would get the heck out of there.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Mob protection rackets about to become real popular

 

[DynaLo]

I hope he gets the hell beat out of him in jail.

Rabid animal on video. Put it down immediately.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Somebody serving and protecting.
He has my full respect.

He could have easily been like, "Tough titty, you broke the law..."

I wish we had more like him.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Better own firearms if you live there

That goes without saying no matter where you live.

I guess people wanted quick changes made, but I am positive that this doesn't address the problem.

 

[Orangeslice13]

That goes without saying no matter where you live.

I guess people wanted quick changes made, but I am positive that this doesn't address the problem.

Did you see my new police issue 870? I tagged you in another thread.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Did you see my new police issue 870? I tagged you in another thread.

Oh yeah. Nice. Is that what you're going to use with your neighbor? I've been on my azz debating between Remington pump or the pricier Bennelli semi-auto.

 

[Tyler Durden]

Long Beach Police Officer Made Bloody Instagram Post During Protest

 

[Carl Pickens]

I’m one of the most critical of the police here. We do NOT need to defund the police. We already see the results in new York. Maceys has private security standing around to prevent looting. Without police the private security will rule in a way the police never thought of. If you get your ass beat by the security and there’s no police then there’s no recourse. The small business owners who cannot afford private security will be exterminated by criminals.

Defunding the police is moronic

And McDad comes out strong .....I like that pep

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Long Beach Police Officer Made Bloody Instagram Post During Protest

It is obvious to most people that these were the guys in high school that got thrown in the lockers and that got picked on or bullied. Now they have a badge and a gun and want to even the score.

 

[Tyler Durden]

House Democrats plan most drastic overhaul of federal policing laws in decades

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Its like this guy has been posting or lurking in this thread, because we have been saying the exact same thing about these cops chasing revenue.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Oh yeah. Nice. Is that what you're going to use with your neighbor? I've been on my azz debating between Remington pump or the pricier Bennelli semi-auto.

I like the 870 because it’s been around forever and is very reliable, cheap, and easy to use. The mossberg 500 is in that category as well. Yes that’s what I told my buddy to buy. But you cannot go wrong with a bennelli

 

[utvolpj]

I like the 870 because it’s been around forever and is very reliable, cheap, and easy to use. The mossberg 500 is in that category as well. Yes that’s what I told my buddy to buy. But you cannot go wrong with a bennelli

Been using my same 870 since I was a teenager. All this hubbub made me pull it out of the safe, clean it up and ordered a couple parts to make sure it functions well.

Rem 1100 is also a good choice in semi @Rasputin_Vol

 

[utvolpj]

 

[davethevol]

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I agree with all of those. Civil asset forfeiture is blatantly at odds with the constitution and is illegal. I’d also add stop all DUI checkpoints as they violate the 4th amendment.

 

[Rickyvol77]

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- I don't agree with ending qualified immunity because for the 2% of time it would do good, it would cripple most departments/cities because lawyers would be suing over every traffic stop, even valid and legal, and would allow a "sovereign citizen" approach of filing 55 frivolous lawsuits in a row to drag down the system all together. If an officer does something truly illegal, they are already outside this immunity.

- I don't care about civil asset forfeiture one way or another, the only reason it exists is so the feds can take all the properties from drug cartels, and Bernie Madoff types

- I have stated my opinion of the "drug war", I think reasonable drug laws are okay, but the negative affect of drugs and the criminal activity that goes along with it is responsible for 75% of all crime in America, and "legalizing" it would not help

- Overcriminalization is a broad and generic term; Does that mean no traffic stops anywhere for any reason? No community policing at all and just respond to calls for service?

- I have no problem with ending no-knock warrants except for threats to others

- "Militarization of police" is another overrated overused term. Other than SWAT teams which have a specific purpose, there is no regular officers patrolling around in helicopters or tanks

- Mandatory minimums - ehh, i don't care other than the court system already are too soft on most violent criminals; I do agree that judges/courts should have discretion

 

[Rickyvol77]

I agree with all of those. Civil asset forfeiture is blatantly at odds with the constitution and is illegal. I’d also add stop all DUI checkpoints as they violate the 4th amendment.

I think DUI checkpoints are kind of pointless (they catch about 1 per every 30-40 cars stopped on average), but they do not violate the 4th Amendment

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

- I don't agree with ending qualified immunity because for the 2% of time it would do good, it would cripple most departments/cities because lawyers would be suing over every traffic stop, even valid and legal, and would allow a "sovereign citizen" approach of filing 55 frivolous lawsuits in a row to drag down the system all together. If an officer does something truly illegal, they are already outside this immunity.

Good. Traffic stops have become nothing more than revenue drivers and fishing expeditions for cops to pull money out of citizens.

- I don't care about civil asset forfeiture one way or another, the only reason it exists is so the feds can take all the properties from drug cartels, and Bernie Madoff types

And then it got abused and now they are taking money from small business owners that happen to be carrying cash or immigrants that may be carrying cash.

- I have stated my opinion of the "drug war", I think reasonable drug laws are okay, but the negative affect of drugs and the criminal activity that goes along with it is responsible for 75% of all crime in America, and "legalizing" it would not help

You solve the problem of single parent homes and you do a lot to kill crime and drug use.

- Overcriminalization is a broad and generic term; Does that mean no traffic stops anywhere for any reason? No community policing at all and just respond to calls for service?

Overcriminalization means just that. If no one is harmed and there is no victim, then there is no crime.

- "Militarization of police" is another overrated overused term. Other than SWAT teams which have a specific purpose, there is no regular officers patrolling around in helicopters or tanks

SWAT was originally created during the Nixon years in the first wave of fighting the war on drugs. The second wave of militarization came after our war on terror when the govt starting giving the police surplus military equipment. The wars on drugs and terror are bleeding this country of liberties and simultaneously building up our police forces to be a standing army.

- Mandatory minimums - ehh, i don't care other than the court system already are too soft on most violent criminals; I do agree that judges/courts should have discretion

Agree.

 

[n_huffhines]

Police reform would be good, probably needed. What worries me are cities getting rid of the police altogether and hire “private security forces.” What standards would these forces be held to? What happens if something happens with a security force personnel and an unarmed person?

Lol, what? Now we're worried about standards?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Police reform would be good, probably needed. What worries me are cities getting rid of the police altogether and hire “private security forces.” What standards would these forces be held to? What happens if something happens with a security force personnel and an unarmed person?

Oh, I missed this. I'm more than confident that private security forces will be held accountable for anything thing they do. Much different than what we have under the present situation with cops.

 

[Pepe_Silvia]

Police reform would be good, probably needed. What worries me are cities getting rid of the police altogether and hire “private security forces.” What standards would these forces be held to? What happens if something happens with a security force personnel and an unarmed person?

Well, for one, private security wouldnt have anything like qualified immunity, so they would actually be held legally accountable for any abuses they commit. Taxpayers would not be on the hook paying for the abuses committed by an officer.