Rasputin_Vol
"Slava Ukraina"
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Why is it either of the two extremes? Are we have to chose from is either no police or keep the police we have now? Really???
How about police reform?
With private security, if an incident occurs, there would be liability and consequences unlike the current security monopoly.Police reform would be good, probably needed. What worries me are cities getting rid of the police altogether and hire “private security forces.” What standards would these forces be held to? What happens if something happens with a security force personnel and an unarmed person?
That cop is a major league ass wipe. Being super aggressive and condescending.
That cop is a major league ass wipe. Being super aggressive and condescending.
I was waiting for one of them to tell the guy Karen to go F himselfWTH? They are literally doing nothing wrong. Just grabbing lunch. And who was the yahoo lecturing them about stirring stuff up?
I was in Walmart the other day and they was a guy open carrying while grocery shopping with his wife and kid. It didn’t look like one single person cared.
I have no interest in going there.... I don’t know anyone that wants to go there.... it has nothing to do with the police.
I was talking about visiting the cityI want to go there.
I want every single complaint investigated by someone outside the police department and presented to a panel of citizens for determining of fact. Just like a grand jury. If the boys in blue couldn’t police themselves (and cover for each other) then the standard of behavior would definitely increase.
I don’t disagree with this but are these panels allowed to affect policy?I want to go there.
I want every single complaint investigated by someone outside the police department and presented to a panel of citizens for determining of fact. Just like a grand jury. If the boys in blue couldn’t police themselves (and cover for each other) then the standard of behavior would definitely increase.
We will absolutely punish those things that are unlawful even if the department has said it’s ok. The department doesn’t determine the law. They are to operate with in the law.I don’t disagree with this but are these panels allowed to affect policy?
Look at George Floyd. Apparently, kneeling on someone’s neck is a sanctioned practice for Minneapolis PD. We could probably go back through this thread and find lots of practices that you or I would say are unreasonable but which officers are trained are ok.
Are we going to punish the individual officer for things that their employer says are ok, or will 9/10 cases end with a determination that the officer was compliant with department policy but their policy is bad?
Haven’t really thought this through, but maybe have yearly elections for neighborhood representatives that are divided up the way you elect school board members or city councilmen, maybe even smaller districts, to increase accountability to voters. Instead of apportioning representation by population, give the areas with the most crime the greatest proportional representation, so it’s not Signal Mountain and Northshore voters who are rarely confronted by police, telling the police how they should treat people in Highland Park. Force policy decisions that affect the community to pass this body and break it up into panels of 3, 5, or 7 to do those reviews. Just a thought.
The problem is you say “self policing” isn’t working, but the number of illegal deaths caused by police is extremely low. Are you saying the goal is to wipe it out completely because that’s impossible in any professionThey’re good enough to be on juries.......
Maybe they understand it better than those who are supposed to enforce it. Self policing clearly isn’t working. They should be subject to the people they’ve sworn to serve.
The problem is you say “self policing” isn’t working, but the number of illegal deaths caused by police is extremely low. Are you saying the goal is to wipe it out completely because that’s impossible in any profession
That would be even better if regular citizens even understood the law
The problem is you say “self policing” isn’t working, but the number of illegal deaths caused by police is extremely low. Are you saying the goal is to wipe it out completely because that’s impossible in any profession
No I support citizen and police cooperation but as evident with many of the protestors and posters on here, we still have some that don’t understand the law at all. We have people that argue police should never shoot at anyone unless they get shot at firstI think regular citizens understand that kneeling on someone’s neck as they scream I can’t breathe isn’t lawful.
This is part of the problem. Just like politicians most cops believe they are above the law and don’t answer to the citizens who put them in their position.
Again you are talking about 1-2% of every law enforcement officer and they usually get what’s coming to them if they really are doing that stuffDo you think it just about illegal deaths by police?
What about the corruption? The harassing? The violation of constitutional rights? The beatings?
There’s more carnage than just the illegal deaths inflicted by police.
Ok. But what about the conduct that isn’t illegal but is unacceptable? Im also thinking that there are police-specific statutes behavior that make things that are illegal for you and me not illegal for police.We will absolutely punish those things that are unlawful even if the department has said it’s ok. The department doesn’t determine the law. They are to operate with in the law.