Time to Move on From Gruden Talk?

[bcartervol98]

This message board will be talking about Gruden even after we hire someone else.

Frost, Patterson or Mullen will just be a smokescreen with Gruden taking the job at the O&W game in a "Loser Leaves Town Barb Wire Cage Match" at the 50 yard line before the game. You heard it here first! LOL:dance2:

 

[Hubbard]

How about not settling for “Safe Hires”?

How many of those have been working out for us here lately?

I think most of us are tired of our fans downplaying expectations.

So, you believe that Gruden is an unsafe hire and not a home run hire?

How can you be so confident that someone who has not coached in several years, was just 15 games over .500 in the NFL, and has never been a head coach in college football would be the best hire?

I think Gruden would bring some positives to UT, however, he would not be long-term and he is not coming.

Your sense of superiority is as meritless as the belief that Gruden is the only option or that he is coming.

 

[VolFreakJosh]

none of that has a thing to do with whether or not one should "believe in gruden", and it's certainly not validation of it.

and we didn't go after, and settle for Dooley or Jones. we WOUND UP with dooley and jones.

i have a sneaking suspicion that we won't WIND UP with our next coach. and it's still not going to be Gruden.

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No one is forcing you to believe in anything.

Just because people in the Gruden thread believe Gruden would be a Slam Dunk Hire doesn’t make us anymore delusional than the fans who believe Mullen would be the next best thing at UT.

Sorry for actually caring about wanting to win again.

 

[Behr]

it's still not going to be Gruden.

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Make up your mind.

 

[BeecherVol]

none of that has a thing to do with whether or not one should "believe in gruden", and it's certainly not validation of it.

and we didn't go after, and settle for Dooley or Jones. we WOUND UP with dooley and jones.

i have a sneaking suspicion that we won't WIND UP with our next coach. and it's still not going to be Gruden.

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"Herbie Hancock"!

 

[Behr]

"Herbie Hancock"!

What'd you do?

 

[NorthDallas40]

On one side it’s entertaining as hell to watch the madness. On the other side for the ones that absolutely believe it’s the only outcome possible you wanna cal Lakeshore on them.

Make no mistake though. Chucky is not coming to UT. I do believe he genuinely loves UT.

But if he was stupid enough to walk away from his current gig and into the buzz saw of an SEC coaching position I’d question if he was worth the money it would take to get him here.

 

[Volfan76]

No one is forcing you to believe in anything.

Just because people in the Gruden thread believe Gruden would be a Slam Dunk Hire doesn’t make us anymore delusional than the fans who believe Mullen would be the next best thing at UT.

Sorry for actually caring about wanting to win again.

Don't waste your time with reason or logic on him...he would argue with a sign post. Do yourself a favor and put him on ignore.

 

[Hubbard]

No one is forcing you to believe in anything.

Just because people in the Gruden thread believe Gruden would be a Slam Dunk Hire doesn’t make us anymore delusional than the fans who believe Mullen would be the next best thing at UT.

Sorry for actually caring about wanting to win again.

No need to be sorry for wanting the Vols (not you) to be relevant again.

Be sorry for not realizing every fan wants that.

Be sorry for the simple minded following of other sheep that believe only Gruden can be a great head coach for UT.

 

[BeecherVol]

What'd you do?

I answered "Jon Gruden". It was right then too.

 

[jakez4ut]

No one is forcing you to believe in anything.

and no one will. but you're implying that if you don't believe in gruden, you're "accepting mediocrity".

Just because people in the Gruden thread believe Gruden would be a Slam Dunk Hire doesn’t make us anymore delusional than the fans who believe Mullen would be the next best thing at UT.

i think hiring gruden is a slam dunk hire. i just don't think it's going to happen.

Sorry for actually caring about wanting to win again.

believing in gruden is not a prerequisite for caring about winning, or having high standards for our program.

that's all i'm getting at here. you want gruden, you believe it's going to happen...great. fine with me.

i want gruden, i don't believe it's going to happen...great...fine with you?

we both want to win, at the highest level.:thumbsup:

 

[easleychuck]

How about not settling for “Safe Hires”?

How many of those have been working out for us here lately?

I think most of us are tired of our fans downplaying expectations.

What "safe hires" are you referencing?

Kiffin was a total crap shoot. May have worked for awhile if the USC job had not come open. But he was definitely not a "safe hire".

Dooley was a desperation move due to the timing of Kiffin bailing on the program. Nothing "safe" about the hire. Now a Cutcliffe hire would have been one of those so called "safe hires" and would have most likely righted the program for a decade or so until a well thought out hire could be made. But the muckety mucks had their hands in the hire. So we got Dooley who was not a safe hire but, rather, an incompetent one. Which leads to......

Jones who was also not a "safe hire" but rather the only guy who seemed to want the job at that time after the Charlie Strong love affair was rebuffed. Strong would have been a "safe hire" and how did he work out at Texas. Jones was just not a very good coach. He went behind Brian Kelly taking jobs after Kelly moved on. He seemed to be able to BS high school kids to coming to UT but then was unable to do much with them once they got here. And he was the worst in game coach of any that I can remember ever being at UT and that covers -- Dickey, Battle (exclude the fake punt against UGA), Majors, Fulmer, Kiffin and even Dooley.

If making a "safe hire" means hiring TV personality who used to be a competent NFL coach for a few seasons and a Super Bowl winner with a team that Tony Dungy could not get to the finish line. And that coach has not been on the field for over a decade, then, I hope we DO finally make a "safe hire" and Gruden would not be it.

 

[jakez4ut]

"Herbie Hancock"!

lol:

 

[Volz4lif3]

Sup toter?

Sup Behr, ready for the big day Thursday?

 

[jakez4ut]

don't waste your time with reason or logic on him...he would argue with a sign post. Do yourself a favor and put him on ignore.

 

[VolForLife83]

Perhaps you should talk to Alabama fans about how Nick Saban is not gonna be the head coach for the Crimson Tide... and he DID actually explicitly state that he wasn’t going to take the job.

Seriously? I guess this must mean Gruden is UT bound...

The guy is not coming

 

[VolForLife83]

So he is just going to come out and say he wants to leave ESPÑ and coach again? Not to mention that was said while we still had a HC and very positive he wouldn't say he has interest in a job that didn't have an opening. Like I said he has not said no publicly nor has he said he has no interest once the job opened up. No I don't think he takes the job but he's not once said no. He's expressed interest in the past so there's no denying that.

No, that was after Butch was fired. Y'all are doing everything you cab to twist this into a conspiracy. Gruden is not coming

 

[jakez4ut]

two guys with the same avatar....i don't know who i'm conversing with anymore...lol.

 

[jasonvol18]

Seriously? I guess this must mean Gruden is UT bound...

The guy is not coming

I don't know if he is or isn't nor do you or anyone else outside of Currie, Gruden and a very select few. I personally don't think he is but it definitely isn't impossible either.

 

[Grand Vol]

The Gruden talk is embarrassing to the fanbase so yeah.

So, Michigan talking about Harbaugh or Bama talking about Saban or Ohio State talking about Meyer before they were hired was "embarrassing"?

Hey, I know. Let's talk about another mediocre hire that continues to get us 6-8 wins per regular season instead of back at our rightful place as a leader in the SEC.

The ones talking about Gruden are embarrassing? People that don't want to shoot for the stars are the ones who are embarrassing.

 

[jakez4ut]

Make up your mind.

i have. it's a struggle. i "know" he's not coming. but i hope he does.

 

[Hubbard]

I don't know if he is or isn't nor do you or anyone else outside of Currie, Gruden and a very select few. I personally don't think he is but it definitely isn't impossible either.

Jason, it is possible.

I don't believe he is coming based on the fact that, if he was going to be the next HC, he should be here by now. Also, knowing that he was such a hot topic before and he did not come to UT to coach.

 

[UCVOL]

Dude is playing us like a fiddle. Every time his name is mentioned it's increasing the value of his "brand" and gives him leverage with his current deals.

 

[Hank Bukowski]

Are we wasting time even thinking of Gruden coming to Knoxville? I think we should just face facts, move on to the next, and concentrate on that person (or two or three people), and throw all of our resources into that.

I think Gruden is either playing around, getting his name out there for advertising dollars, or maneuvering for an NFL offer.

See the link from his broadcasting partner.

ESPN broadcaster Sean McDonough on partner Jon Gruden: 'He's not going to Tennessee'

I know this is probably a merge waiting to happen.

YES, it is time. Beyond time.

 

[jasonvol18]

No, that was after Butch was fired. Y'all are doing everything you cab to twist this into a conspiracy. Gruden is not coming

No that was before Butch was fired unless there have been several similar articles written. Don't say y'all I honestly don't think he's our next HC but you won't find a guy who only lets info come out that he wants more than Gruden. And a guy who has the utmost respect for other Coach's. As is evident with the foundation he started for fired Coach's.Even if Gruden was taking the job he would not allow anything to come out until the end of the season. He's not going to disrespect another coach. Whether he is or isn't remains to be seen but either way it was always going to play out this way regardless. Like I posted earlier you don't have anymore of a clue of what's going on than anyone else. Everything is speculative right now.