Throw out the tuition

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Zues1 said:
multi million dollar deals are a long way from $100 handshakes and 10k in a cigar box.
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Maybe the Spyre should stop offering and agreeing to such deals, eh?

If your prospective school offered you a 7 figure NIL deal, you wouldn't refuse it would you?

Losing regularly to KY and AR isn't a problem, is it?
 
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As I mentioned before paying athletes is a good thing. Wide open no cap and a transfer portal that anyone can jump in and out of with few restrictions are the issues. The portal is open during playoffs, March Madness. It's nuts.

Lastly paying a handful of players millions while their teammates,( who may be protecting them )
Are not getting those type of deals is a team/ locker room cancer. You can bet the house on that.
If players are to be paid ,each player should be guaranteed a minimum, if they can work a bigger deal on their NIL more power to them.
 
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Zues1 said:
As I mentioned before paying athletes is a good thing. Wide open no cap and a transfer portal that anyone can jump in and out of with few restrictions are the issues. The portal is open during playoffs, March Madness. It's nuts.

Lastly paying a handful of players millions while their teammates,( who may be protecting them )
Are not getting those type of deals is a team/ locker room cancer. You can bet the house on that.
If players are to be paid ,each player should be guaranteed a minimum, if they can work a bigger deal on their NIL more power to them.
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They obviously CAN work a bigger deal on their NIL. It's the schools/collectives offering the deals to compete for the best players.

Not EVERY school's collective pays out millions and millions, just the ones who want to be competitive at the highest levels.

We could easily decide to not pay big NIL deals and not recruit elite talent and be happy with whatever team we can get of "guys who really want to be at UT."

We won't be competitive but we can drop Spyre and the talent tax and all that. It's a funny thing about wanting good things, they cost more than not good things.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
They obviously CAN work a bigger deal on their NIL. It's the schools/collectives offering the deals to compete for the best players.

Not EVERY school's collective pays out millions and millions, just the ones who want to be competitive at the highest levels.

We could easily decide to not pay big NIL deals and not recruit elite talent and be happy with whatever team we can get of "guys who really want to be at UT."

We won't be competitive but we can drop Spyre and the talent tax and all that. It's a funny thing about wanting good things, they cost more than not good things.
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Is that what you took from my post?
Comprehension is hard sometimes
 
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Zues1 said:
Is that what you took from my post?
Comprehension is hard sometimes
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The choice is:

Pay the market rate, whether you think it's overpriced or not, or do without good things.

UT wants to win so they pay ridiculous prices for talented players.

There have been times in my life where I felt like chuck steak was the best I could afford and other times when I've picked up filet. It's a choice. UT has made choices to get here.

UT chose suing, actually getting the State to join the lawsuit, which led to multiple transfers with no penalty and joined several lawsuits to make NIL almost completely unregulated.

Obviously, UT is comfortable with this and I'm a UT fan. And most importantly...... UT Athletics is thriving, doing better than we have in a number of years in several sports.

What's to complain about? It's working.
 
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I've seen people on here state by taking away the scholarship and only giving the player the NIL is breaking the law....that's understood.

My question is what if said player freely gives up their scholprship...does that still constitute an anti-trust violation?
 
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IndianaVol said:
I've seen people on here state by taking away the scholarship and only giving the player the NIL is breaking the law....that's understood.

My question is what if said player freely gives up their scholprship...does that still constitute an anti-trust violation?
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Who is going to do that?
 
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Zues1 said:
As I mentioned before paying athletes is a good thing. Wide open no cap and a transfer portal that anyone can jump in and out of with few restrictions are the issues. The portal is open during playoffs, March Madness. It's nuts.

Lastly paying a handful of players millions while their teammates,( who may be protecting them )
Are not getting those type of deals is a team/ locker room cancer. You can bet the house on that.
If players are to be paid ,each player should be guaranteed a minimum, if they can work a bigger deal on their NIL more power to them.
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With revenue sharing after July 1, that's no longer a big issue.
 
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EastTNVol6240 said:
“Fair market value”. Please change my mind and enlighten me why Nico was worth 2 million on the bench, then another 2 million as a sub bar SEC QB? I’m all for the players getting paid, but it has gotten a little carried away.
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Investments are risks. The hype that came along with him should explain easily why. Hype = ticket sales, jersey sales, etc.

Sometimes risks pay off, sometimes they don’t. It’s far from getting carried away. Imagine he had balled out last year. Took us on a playoff run. Then he would have went from overpaid to under paid over night.
 
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S.C. OrangeMan said:
Who is going to do that?
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I get the question, and extremely unlikely it ever happens.

I'm just posing the question, what if a superstar type guy is set to make a major NIL contract but has a high school buddy a little less talented that would make the team, but no scholarship is available. Could the NIL guy give his up so his buddy could play, or does that break anti-trust law?
 
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Zues1 said:
multi million dollar deals are a long way from $100 handshakes and 10k in a cigar box.
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Yeah...back in the 70's...lol.

At least you now acknowledge paying players has been around a long time.

So, is your position that athletes and their families weren't receiving 7-figure "deals" before NIL?
 
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Zues1 said:
As I mentioned before paying athletes is a good thing. Wide open no cap and a transfer portal that anyone can jump in and out of with few restrictions are the issues. The portal is open during playoffs, March Madness. It's nuts.

Lastly paying a handful of players millions while their teammates,( who may be protecting them )
Are not getting those type of deals is a team/ locker room cancer. You can bet the house on that.
If players are to be paid ,each player should be guaranteed a minimum, if they can work a bigger deal on their NIL more power to them.
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Thank goodness when their playing days are over they will never have to suffer the injustice of disparities in economic outcomes in the real world...lol
 
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S.C. OrangeMan said:
Ethics??? That's ludicrous. It's how the people who actually don't have ethics misspell "we want to exploit you and Shane you if you resist".

The NCAA, schools, and coaches that enriched themselves while the athletes did the work and took the physical risk are the ones with the ethical fail.
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A player threatens to not play for a team in the playoffs or after spring training unless he gets more millions. You might call that capitalism, I call it a form of blackmail. I guess we have different ethical standards...

OK I'm done with you! You seem to have allot more idol time than I do.


Cowboy GIF
 
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MinisterofDef#92 said:
Brilliant...now tell me what you do for a living and how much you make then I'll decide what you can "squeak by on"
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If a student can't live on $100,000/year (Plus they have free tuition, food and shelter), they have a big problem(A fool and their money always part) and should hire a finance expert. 🤪 🤪 🤪 🤪
 
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overseasorange2 said:
A player threatens to not play for a team in the playoffs or after spring training unless he gets more millions. You might call that capitalism, I call it a form of blackmail. I guess we have different ethical standards...

OK I'm done with you! You seem to have allot more idol time than I do.


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It's called "leverage". You know, what people use in business and salary negotiations every day?
 
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overseasorange2 said:
If a student can't live on $100,000/year (Plus they have free tuition, food and shelter), they have a big problem(A fool and their money always part) and should hire a finance expert. 🤪 🤪 🤪 🤪
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It's not up to you. It's up to what the athletes and his/her agent negotiate with the collective.
 
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Flamparadiddle said:
For those athletes seeking millions, take away their tuition scholarship to free it up for someone that wants a degree.

If the athletes want a degree or actually care about the education, they can pay for it out of their millions.

They're already getting way more perks even without the money.

First class food, first class training, first class medical, etc.
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If you are Ticky-tacky compared to another school recruiting the same kid what impression will the family have about UT?
 
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