The Weightlifters Thread

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#2,601
Thrasher865 said:
Ok, I need emergency consultation from everyone but cc. Lol jk, but seriously.

I just got done lifting and I'm going to the game with my boss. Alright to have 2 beers after a workout? Or should I not?
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I would advise against it, but probably do it myself.
 
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govols/cc said:
You're trying to make the science of it more than what it is. Not everybody thinks HIT is the best program. Who's to say a gym rat isn't educated?
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It is scientific. Think about the kinesiology involved. You are proving my point. As my brother loves to point out the fallacy of gym rats who have no educational background in muscle-related sciences.

There are tons of gym rats out there who love to act like they know everything about lifting, when most have no clue. Building the muscle is a science. There are different ways and shapes you can build it, but you will only get a fully built and properly enhanced muscle build by lifting with the correct techniques.

Whether you believe in HIT or not, there are correct movements with varying lifts. 99.9% gym rats do not perform lifts correctly.
 
#2,603
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The sad thing is bodybuilding is it's 90% genetics + diet/supplements + effort. This is what makes it difficult to really nail down the optimal routine. Everybody is different. Often gym rats can get by with horrible form because their bodies are so genetically gifted they will build muscle no matter what, just as long as they get in the gym and move weight around. Ever watched a video of Jay Cutler do weight training? It's awful.
 
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Tux said:
It is scientific. Think about the kinesiology involved. You are proving my point. As my brother loves to point out the fallacy of gym rats who have no educational background in muscle-related sciences.

There are tons of gym rats out there who love to act like they know everything about lifting, when most have no clue. Building the muscle is a science. There are different ways and shapes you can build it, but you will only get a fully built and properly enhanced muscle build by lifting with the correct techniques.

Whether you believe in HIT or not, there are correct movements with varying lifts. 99.9% gym rats do not perform lifts correctly.
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I know a lot of dumb people who are pretty damn fit I guess. They must be lucky. There are general guidelines for technique but everybody is built different & like baker said genetics plays a huge role.
 
#2,606
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Tired today. Hard workout yesterday. Still stuck at 7 pounds down. Felt it necessary to double the effort yesterday to make up for drinking XX ales on Saturday evening. It was worth it. Went well while grilling up and eating Margarita Chicken.
 
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What are yalls thoughts on behind-the-neck shoulder presses? I have been doing iso-lateral shoulder presses, but I feel like its only targeting the front part of the muscle. My dad has always had rotator cuff issues and I think it's genetic, the muscle there just isn't aligned quite right. I'm ok up to a certain weight on these over the head lifts, but I've hurt myself before when I up the weight and put more effort into it. Should I even attempt the behind the neck press?
 
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#2,611
I don't do behind the neck presses. I would just do dumbell presses. I do really love the plate load hammer strength shoulder press machine too.
 
#2,612
#2,612
Yeah, behind the head presses are just asking for neck issues. Sucks, cause there would be benefit if it weren't for the fear of injuries.
 
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golfballs03 said:
What are yalls thoughts on behind-the-neck shoulder presses? I have been doing iso-lateral shoulder presses, but I feel like its only targeting the front part of the muscle. My dad has always had rotator cuff issues and I think it's genetic, the muscle there just isn't aligned quite right. I'm ok up to a certain weight on these over the head lifts, but I've hurt myself before when I up the weight and put more effort into it. Should I even attempt the behind the neck press?
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You're working the entire muscle on regular presses it's probably just a mental thing. You could try some reverse fly's if you have the machine for it or use dumbells & lay face first on a bench.
 
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nbakerld said:
Yeah, behind the head presses are just asking for neck issues. Sucks, cause there would be benefit if it weren't for the fear of injuries.
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There is, but IMO it's not worth it. Something catastrophic can happen too easily, even if you've got a spotter. I busted my row-tater cuff doing shoulder press (well that and a snowboarding accident a couple weeks earlier), and it happened in the blink of an eye.
 
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Question:

I work calves every week, but I hadn't done standing calf raises in a while and did them on Thursday night. I was somewhat sore on Friday, but by the time Saturday night rolled around my calves were severely sore. Sunday I could barely get around. They were still decently sore yesterday. This seems a little extreme to me. Am I doing something wrong on my standing calf raises? I feel like maybe my legs are too locked when I do them? The soreness was throughout the calf but worst at the top. What do you fellas think?
 
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#2,616
Chances are you worked out a muscle in there that hasn't seen any serious action in a while, and you're feeling the full recovery time.
 
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milohimself said:
Chances are you worked out a muscle in there that hasn't seen any serious action in a while, and you're feeling the full recovery time.
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K, I was just worried that I may be stretching tendons too much or something. It seems like an absurdly long recovery. I'm still a little sore today (5 days later), but I'm walking normal.
 
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My back is killing me today. I lifted on Sunday afternoon and did cardio yesterday evening. I did yoga this morning to try and get straightened out. I'm still hurting. What are the opinions on the chiropractor? I've never been. My g/f swears by it. Opinions?
 
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nbakerld said:
K, I was just worried that I may be stretching tendons too much or something. It seems like an absurdly long recovery. I'm still a little sore today (5 days later), but I'm walking normal.
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Recovery of any muscle group will always take about 96 hours or so, it's just that once you're used to working a muscle, you won't feel the recovery the whole time.
 
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ORANGE & WHITE said:
My back is killing me today. I lifted on Sunday afternoon and did cardio yesterday evening. I did yoga this morning to try and get straightened out. I'm still hurting. What are the opinions on the chiropractor? I've never been. My g/f swears by it. Opinions?
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A really good massage therapist is better from my experience. Properly trained in sports massage. If they know what they are doing it hurts like a mother, but relief lasts a lot longer than a back cracker.
 
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nbakerld said:
K, I was just worried that I may be stretching tendons too much or something. It seems like an absurdly long recovery. I'm still a little sore today (5 days later), but I'm walking normal.
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When I first started back about 1.5 months ago, every muscle group I worked was 5 day recovery. I was reassured it was normal.
 
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