The Venezuela thread

What Do You Think About This?

  • Doesn't really make sense.

    Votes: 11 15.5%

  • Unnecessary.

    Votes: 23 32.4%

  • I love it! We can get more oil!

    Votes: 23 32.4%

  • I can see why it might happen, but not comfortable with it.

    Votes: 14 19.7%
  • Total voters
    71
#777
#777
Agustín Antonetti
@agusantonetti
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President Trump says that they had to assassinate the entire Cuban presidential guard of Maduro.

Trump: "You know, many Cubans lost their lives last night. Did you know that?

Many Cubans lost their lives. They were protecting Maduro.

That was not a good decision."- NY Post

 
#779
#779
Anyone questioning that photo of Maduro on the ship? His hands, particularly his left hand looks unnatural. It looks like he's holding something too. It's orange. Thoughts.
 
#786
#786
utvolpj said:
Bigger govt, increased taxes, expanding debt is simply not a reasonable stance. Before maga the right was against those
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I couldn’t vote before MAGA.
This terrorist was the head of the massive operation that trafficked fentanyl into our country. Trump solved that, it may be a small piece; but that small percentage of Fent could be what saves the life of someone you know.

I played sports with 3 guys in HS that are dead from taking pills that were cut with fentanyl and pressed. I’m not condoning the action of taking prescription drugs and I do not believe it’s a “disease” they made the choice to take the pill; but they didn’t intend kill themselves. They didn’t choose to take fentanyl. It’s a terrible thing, I’m glad that we have put a roadblock in their trafficking network.

Bigger government, increased taxes, expanding debt… I don’t care about any of that. I just want a safe life for my family and an opportunity to prosper. My generation has nothing to do with any of those issues and not a single President has done anything to make a difference.

Maybe use the Ukrainian Minerals and Venezuela’s oil to chip away the debt. It’ll never get paid, we will die with the imaginary debt still astronomical.
 
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#787
allstar34 said:
I couldn’t vote before MAGA.
This terrorist was the head of the massive operation that trafficked fentanyl into our country. Trump solved that, it may be a small piece; but that small percentage of Fent could be what saves the life of someone you know.

I played sports with 3 guys in HS that are dead from taking pills that were cut with fentanyl and pressed. I’m not condoning the action of taking prescription drugs and I do not believe it’s a “disease” they made the choice to take the pill; but they didn’t intend kill themselves. They didn’t choose to take fentanyl. It’s a terrible thing, I’m glad that we have put a roadblock in their trafficking network.
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Terrorist? Against the USA?

Fentanyl is not coming from Venezuela. It's also not being discussed now which is telling
allstar34 said:
Bigger government, increased taxes, expanding debt… I don’t care about any of that. I just want a safe life for my family and an opportunity to prosper.
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Those are all about safety of this country and its citizens. Ignoring them is what allows people like Trump to take advantage
 
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#788
utvolpj said:
Those are all about safety of this country and its citizens. Ignoring them is what allows people like Trump to take advantage
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Trump will be dead in a decade. The budget means nothing to him.
Didn't mean anything to Biden, Obama, or Bush.. Clinton didn't do terrible according to records.
They inflate the dollar and refinance the debt. It's a continuous cycle.
 
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#789
utvolpj said:
Bigger govt, increased taxes, expanding debt is simply not a reasonable stance. Before maga the right was against those
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Most here still are. In fact nearly everybody here that voted for Trump beeched about the BBB and other wasteful expenditures. I don't know where Trump raised taxes though? Haven't seen that happen anywhere.

I didn't see that 3rd party candidate small government Conservative on the ballot here...did you have 1 there?

So unless you're suggesting Kamala and that band of degenerates and trannies would have done a better job...what exactly is your point? It's OK to be happy when the guy you voted for actually does something good IMO. Locking down the border, cutting inflation dramatically despite the Fed refusing to cut interest rates, deporting illegals, getting all the racist DEI bullcrap out of out government, defunding Planned Parenthood and genital mutilation of minors by tax dollars...those are all good things that the majority of Americans voted for. Deposing Maduro wasn't on my bingo card...but the only ones pissed about it are China, Russia, and the Democrats...which is when you know something was a good deed.

I think most people on the right want fiscal responsibility and smaller government still. The vast majority. That choice wasn't on the menu this time though.
 
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#790
Shipwreckedcrew
@shipwreckedcrew




I want to credit @willchamberlain for this point -- which I RP'd -- but add a bit of substance.

Osama Bin Laden was indicted in the SDNY first in 1998, and later in a series of Superseding Indictments between 1999 and 2001. There was a warrant for his arrest and he was on the FBI's Most Wanted list in 2011.

The Obama Administration used US military operators to invade the sovereign territory of Pakistan.

That military action resulted in the deaths of 4 others in addition to Bin Laden

Pres. Obama carried out a death sentence on Bin Laden before he ever stood trial.

Where were the critics then?

IIRC, very popular movies were made about the mission.
 
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#791
marcusluvsvols said:
Most here still are. In fact nearly everybody here that voted for Trump beeched about the BBB and other wasteful expenditures. I don't know where Trump raised taxes though? Haven't seen that happen anywhere.
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So against the spending that they support Trump going after anyone opposed to his spending?

Tariffs are taxes
marcusluvsvols said:
I think most people on the right want fiscal responsibility and smaller government still. The vast majority. That choice wasn't on the menu this time though.
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If they were for those things they wouldn't constantly celebrate what is done by this admin. They would demand better choices rather than just saying they have to win the election. The red team winning means nothing if you have bad policy
 
#793
#793
jmacvols1 said:
Shipwreckedcrew
@shipwreckedcrew




I want to credit @willchamberlain for this point -- which I RP'd -- but add a bit of substance.

Osama Bin Laden was indicted in the SDNY first in 1998, and later in a series of Superseding Indictments between 1999 and 2001. There was a warrant for his arrest and he was on the FBI's Most Wanted list in 2011.

The Obama Administration used US military operators to invade the sovereign territory of Pakistan.

That military action resulted in the deaths of 4 others in addition to Bin Laden

Pres. Obama carried out a death sentence on Bin Laden before he ever stood trial.

Where were the critics then?

IIRC, very popular movies were made about the mission.
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How is this guy like OBL in any way?
 
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#794
allstar34 said:
Trump will be dead in a decade. The budget means nothing to him.
Didn't mean anything to Biden, Obama, or Bush.. Clinton didn't do terrible according to records.
They inflate the dollar and refinance the debt. It's a continuous cycle.
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The cycle is musical chairs
 
#796
#796
allstar34 said:
Trump will be dead in a decade. The budget means nothing to him.
Didn't mean anything to Biden, Obama, or Bush.. Clinton didn't do terrible according to records.
They inflate the dollar and refinance the debt. It's a continuous cycle.
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Clinton had the good fortune of the .Com internet boom. A chimpanzee could have balanced the budget when billions and billions of dollars and taxes were made out of thin air. That was a once in 100 years maybe event...like the Industrial Revolution. He wasn't a financial wizard. Damn sure wasn't a small government guy either. He was the best Democrat president in my 48 years of life though. By a mile.

Clinton would be a Republican in 2025. Right next to Trump on the political spectrum.
 
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#797
#797
allstar34 said:
Exactly, so why stress over it. That's my point PJ.
No party has made an effort to make a difference.
I truly think Elon wanted to help. He seems more America First than most.
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Because when there's no chair it gets bad on a hurry. That affects me or my kids. We know how to survive but others are unpredictable

Elon didn't have a clue what he was doing, hired a crew of idiot kids and Trump wanted nothing to do with cutting spending anyways.
 
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