The Venezuela thread

[Orange_Crush]

 

[LSU-SIU]

I'm not saying that at all. I'm questioning LG's accusation that Trump promised on the campaign trail not to engage in ANY foreign military engagements. He's having trouble proving it.

You're trying to convince me that the dog has 9 legs, and having trouble proving it, so you call me insane by attributing an argument that I'm not making. I'm not defending or condemning the engagements in Venezuela or Iran. I'm defining them in comparison to Trump's campaign promises, as I understood them.

So, by saying that it could lead to war, you're admitting that it is not war? Or are you just wanting to keep talking in circles?

I am thinking at this moment a very heavy thing fell on your head.

 

[Orange_Crush]

I am thinking...

I don't believe you.

 

[BreatheUT]

At this point Trump will go down as one of the great strategic foreign policy POTUSs in a long time.

If this Venezuela regime change is successful it could have a positive impact felt around the world.

 

[LSU-SIU]

I don't believe you.

 

[LSU-SIU]

At this point Trump will go down as one of the great strategic foreign policy POTUSs in a long time.

If this Venezuela regime change is successful it could have a positive impact felt around the world.

It would seem like things might be a little hazy here...

If this Venezuela regime change is successful it could have a positive impact felt around the world.

And in theory, eventually in millions of years that the U.S. paying and military support terrorist groups in the middle east will have a positive impact, especially among the groups that have killed 1000s of americans.

Al Qaeda says they need more funds, go ahead and send some of the Venezuelan oil money to them so they can distribute it to ISIS, also they're sorry about the whole blowing up buildings thing.

Death Toll Rises As Fighting Expands Between Syrian Army & Kurds In Aleppo | ZeroHedge

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

At this point Trump will go down as one of the great strategic foreign policy POTUSs in a long time.

If this Venezuela regime change is successful it could have a positive impact felt around the world.

You underestimate power of TDS

 

[MAD]

The mentally ill left: “we know better what’s good for you Venezuelans”

The Hamas supporter “Gaza Barbie” lashes out at a Venezuelan woman "with indigenous features" for celebrating Maduro's fall​

Translation…
A welcome return. The Spanish woman
Ana Alcalde, better known as Gaza Barbie during her time aboard the Flotilla, furious with a Venezuelan woman, seen on the street, who was thanking Trump for removing Maduro. Alcalde can't get over it and scolds the woman in a video because, having Indigenous features, she should have been with Chavez and Maduro who "liberated" her civilization and not with the colonizers. Then the final assertion: Americans have never brought freedom to any country.

 

[BreatheUT]

You underestimate power of TDS

History tends to reveal the truth and is undefeated.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

LMAO .... the local mob boss has the whole U S military shaking in their boots.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

LMAO .... the local mob boss has the whole U S military shaking in their boots.

Yea and his “followers” certainly seem excited to be there and follow in his chants.

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

Chess while some (Dems) want to play checkers.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Chess while some (Dems) want to play checkers.

That's like saying, the bank is safe because its no longer taking deposits. How exactly does Glenn think this all works - the U.S. isn't getting a better deal than what it has.

How exactly is China and the rest of the world going to send Glenn all that stuff in his studio without resources?

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Yea and his “followers” certainly seem excited to be there and follow in his chants.

Bunch of old drunks with nothing better to do in the day time.

 

[Good Ol' Charlie Brown]

Lol

Polymarket refuses to pay bettors who wagered US would ‘invade’ Venezuela

Polymarket, the world’s largest online prediction market, ruled that last weekend’s US military operation did not count as an “invasion.”

nypost.com

That's pretty gay

 

[LSU-SIU]

That's pretty gay

Hey man, I learned yesterday that the U.S. could launch its whole nuclear arsenal on the world and its not war or an act of war.

We learn something new everyday.

 

[InVOLuntary]

LMAO .... the local mob boss has the whole U S military shaking in their boots.

That explains why many of Venezuelans don't have food.

 

[adam.vol]

At this point Trump will go down as one of the great strategic foreign policy POTUSs in a long time.

If this Venezuela regime change is successful it could have a positive impact felt around the world.

McGraw Hill will surely give him credit as one of their all time greats.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Hey man, I learned yesterday that the U.S. could launch its whole nuclear arsenal on the world and its not war or an act of war.

We learn something new everyday.

Go back and read, hombre. It kind of looks like you may need to invest some time learning how, but it will be worth your efforts.

War | History, Causes, Types, Meaning, Examples, & Facts | Britannica​

War, in the popular sense, a conflict between political groups involving hostilities of considerable duration and magnitude. Sociologists usually apply the term to such conflicts only if they are initiated and conducted in accordance with socially recognized forms.

www.britannica.com

war, in the popular sense, a conflict between political groups involving hostilities of considerable duration and magnitude. In the usage of social science, certain qualifications are added. Sociologists usually apply the term to such conflicts only if they are initiated and conducted in accordance with socially recognized forms. They treat war as an institution recognized in custom or in law. Military writers usually confine the term to hostilities in which the contending groups are sufficiently equal in power to render the outcome uncertain for a time. Armed conflicts of powerful states with isolated and powerless peoples are usually called pacifications, military expeditions, or explorations; with small states, they are called interventions or reprisals; and with internal groups, rebellions or insurrections. Such incidents, if the resistance is sufficiently strong or protracted, may achieve a magnitude that entitles them to the name “war.”

Here. I'll make it even easier.

Military writers usually confine the term to hostilities in which the contending groups are sufficiently equal in power to render the outcome uncertain for a time. Armed conflicts of powerful states with isolated and powerless peoples are usually called pacifications, military expeditions, or explorations; with small states, they are called interventions or reprisals; and with internal groups, rebellions or insurrections.

So, it would appear that if the US unleashed its entire nuclear arsenal against Venezuela, it would not be classified as a war. If we released it against Russia, it may be classified as war if they indeed have the nuclear capacity to respond in kind. If both were destroyed in short order, there probably wouldn't be anyone to call it anything.

But we didn't unleash the entirety of our nuclear arsenal. We selectively and tactically bombed Venezuela, kidnapped their kidnapper, and the cartel regime couldn't do **** about it. It in no way meets the criteria of "endless wars" and "nation building" that Trump promised against--which is the context of the discussion, no matter how badly you wish you could win a debate via red herrings.

But you're not really arguing with me. You seem to be arguing with the general consensus of the definitions of war. Feel free. I'll just reiterate that you are a massive waste of time.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Go back and read, hombre. It kind of looks like you may need to invest some time learning how, but it will be worth your efforts.

War | History, Causes, Types, Meaning, Examples, & Facts | Britannica​

War, in the popular sense, a conflict between political groups involving hostilities of considerable duration and magnitude. Sociologists usually apply the term to such conflicts only if they are initiated and conducted in accordance with socially recognized forms.

www.britannica.com


Here. I'll make it even easier.



So, it would appear that if the US unleashed its entire nuclear arsenal against Venezuela, it would not be classified as a war. If we released it against Russia, it may be classified as war if they indeed have the nuclear capacity to respond in kind. If both were destroyed in short order, there probably wouldn't be anyone to call it anything.

But we didn't unleash the entirety of our nuclear arsenal. We selectively and tactically bombed Venezuela, kidnapped their kidnapper, and the cartel regime couldn't do **** about it. It in no way meets the criteria of "endless wars" and "nation building" that Trump promised against--which is the context of the discussion, no matter how badly you wish you could win a debate via red herrings.

But you're not really arguing with me. You seem to be arguing with the general consensus of the definitions of war. Feel free. I'll just reiterate that you are a massive waste of time.

I'm apparently having problems with definitions.

But we didn't unleash the entirety of our nuclear arsenal.

It would be just a temporary military engagement either way. I got it.

But you're not really arguing with me.

I'm not arguing, I'm learning man.

 

[Vol8188]

Comparing this to Iraq or Afghanistan is a complete joke. The same joke yall tried with Iran over the summer

 

[adam.vol]

Comparing this to Iraq or Afghanistan is a complete joke. The same joke yall tried with Iran over the summer

They all have this in common and all get resolved the same.

 

[Vol8188]

They all have this in common and all get resolved the same.

More scary Jew conspiracies. “This is really about the Rothschilds!”

 

[EasternVol]

Worker saftey concerns? By American companies on foreign soil? Lol

In my experience American oil companies take worker safety overseas very seriously. It's a monetary concern as well as a social one. Accidents cause lost production.