The Venezuela thread

[LSU-SIU]

I'm questioning whether the administration has thought this through. So far, they are contradicting each other on what our role is going to be and no one has set forth any specific plan.

To be continued... btw, if you know someone in Venezuela, tell them not to answer the phone call if it comes from China, thanks.

On a list of important things on the Orange man's list... they're probably about number 1001. This looks like its going to be a very interesting year. Better buckle up.

 

[Redleg68]

I'm questioning whether the administration has thought this through. So far, they are contradicting each other on what our role is going to be and no one has set forth any specific plan.

Probably have, but I would guess that it is a very fluid situation that leads to miscommunications. here has got to be some inside players here that we do not know about yet. That raid and extraction went too smoothly for it not to be.

 

[Redleg68]

I would assume without alternative plans Europe collapses on its present course, which is why they are hanging onto the Ukraine. Assume Russia picks up whoever wants to jump on board and they consider viable -- in the next world Europe has no real value other than Norway and Greenland (depending on the definition of Europe).... mostly scraps. (I have no insight though)

What I was told I didn't want to believe, but its similar what he said i.e. deals. I keep telling people they need to expect life changing events.

This kind of reminds me of a class I had in college. The professor was advocating storing the sperm of all the great men in the world to fertilize future generations as sooner or latter we would blow ourselves up. I raised my hand and after being acknowledged I said that does not make sense as it was all these great men that was going to blow us all up to begin with. Got a C with a 94 average. Was freshly back from Nam and wasn't some wide eyed 18 year old he could feed that to. Point being if what you are hearing is true some players that have nukes and are being left out could make things hairy. Power mongrels could be the end of us.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

The View audience left Stunned as Woke Anti-MAGA co-host Defends Trump's arrest of Maduro​

The audience of The View was stunned after one of the hosts defended Trump's arrest of Maduro, going against the stances held by her fellow liberal panel members.

The talk show opened its episode this morning with a conversation about the astonishing capture of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro on January 3, to which co-host Ana Navarro, who was born in Nicaragua, said she shed tears of joy.

Navarro, a Republican but a vocal critic of President Trump, listed why she and other Hispanics are celebrating the ousting of the dictator, only to be interrupted by co-host Sunny Hostin, who asked: 'Are you ok with the way it was done?'

The View left stunned as anti-MAGA co-host defends Maduro arrest

Co-Host Ana Navarro shocked the panel after celebrating that Nicolas Maduro was out of power but was quick to take shots at President Trump.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[LSU-SIU]

This kind of reminds me of a class I had in college. The professor was advocating storing the sperm of all the great men in the world to fertilize future generations as sooner or latter we would blow ourselves up. I raised my hand and after being acknowledged I said that does not make sense as it was all these great men that was going to blow us all up to begin with. Got a C with a 94 average. Was freshly back from Nam and wasn't some wide eyed 18 year old he could feed that to. Point being if what you are hearing is true some players that have nukes and are being left out could make things hairy. Power mongrels could be the end of us.

The nukes in Europe are definitely a problem. Something I said when Trump was first in office, at least get the U.S. ones out.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

There is logic to not wanting the truth, something I spoke about a year or more ago.

I would suggest you go about your day to be honest.

I'm not interested in what you perceive to be the truth.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

I'm questioning whether the administration has thought this through. So far, they are contradicting each other on what our role is going to be and no one has set forth any specific plan.

IM sure they shot straight from the hip with zero thought. Perhaps they should have consulted any number of anonymous web forums for expertise

 

[LSU-SIU]

I'm not interested in what you perceive to be the truth.

Its not my truth, the Orange man is telling you his truth. I believe he means it. What confusion is there?

The White House

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Gunfire and anti-aircraft Blasts heard near Venezuela's presidential palace as chaos unfolds after Maduro's ouster​

Venezuela descended into chaos on Monday night as heavy gunfire rang off near the presidential palace in Caracas after Nicolás Maduro was ousted as president.

Extraordinary images emerged on social media that showed people fleeing the gunfire as the explosives could be heard in Venezuela's capital.

Locals said 'anti-aircraft' blasts were heard from the general vicinity of the presidential palace after days of unrest in the streets since Maduro was whisked to America to face drug trafficking charges.

The night sky was lit up by what appeared to be drones and anti-aircraft fire from about 8.15pm local time, residents reported.

Witnesses said armored vehicles arrived at Miraflores presidential palace shortly after the gunfire, as troops were deployed to surrounding areas to respond to the volatile situation.

A White House official told CNN the administration is aware of reports of gunfire, but assured 'the US is not involved.'

The network also reported that the gunfire was the result among 'confusion' between paramilitary groups operating near the palace.


Armed supporters of Venezuela's President Nicolas Maduro gather near the Miraflores presidential palace in Caracas after his ouster

A member of the Colombian Army stands guard on the Simon Bolivar International Bridge connected to Venezuela

Gunfire near Venezuela's presidential palace as chaos unfolds

Extraordinary vision emerged on social media on Monday night appearing to show a hail of bullets descending on Venezuela's capital.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[swampfoxfan]

Is Columbia next? Is WW111 the result?

 

[Ritzwatch]

Is Columbia next? Is WW111 the result?

No.

 

[Redleg68]

The nukes in Europe are definitely a problem. Something I said when Trump was first in office, at least get the U.S. ones out.

Don't forget about the ones in India and Pakistan. In a pressure situation I think they would be more apt to pull the trigger against each other and it could have a cascading effect. I think the EU would just huddle and play for he scraps.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[LSU-SIU]

Is Columbia next? Is WW111 the result?

I would assume he's just getting started on Iran, but if you're in the Americas its sounding like he is saying lose China's phone number or to the cell you go.

Is WW111 the result?

I would assume, if the major players were upset about it... they'll just unplug. No bombs are really needed.

 

[Carl Pickens]

What I find interesting is Trumps presser on this Venezuela operation. It seems to have went very well and he should have been pumped at his first victory of this term yet he could barely string together a coherent pre written sentence for the presser. Dude makes Biden look like Jack LaLanne

 

[swampfoxfan]

First, how do you know those numbers are correct vs just made up?
Second, there is a huge difference in supporting a dictator, and being critical of a action of the potus which is probably illegal.

 

[EasternVol]

We actually have a lot of success stories on this sort of thing and many are in this hemisphere. We've helped free the people of El Salvador, Panama and Grenada. In the Middle East there's Kuwait

A very few, not a lot. Our actions resulted in a net positive for the people in Grenada and Kuwait.
Remember that we were on the side of the death squad nun killers in El Salvador.The people were screwed there no matter which side won.
We really tore the place up and killed a lot of civilians in Panama. A lot of folks there would rather that we not visited.
We and the coalition freed Kuwait but of course we were greedy and botched the aftermath with Iraq.

 

[EasternVol]

Taiwan is already a part of China, so this would be the equivalent of a civil war.

They have seceded.

 

[EasternVol]

Add Eastern Europe to the list as well with their freedom from the Soviets.

We can't claim credit.

 

[EasternVol]

The only thing different this time is Trump is being honest about it , all one has to do is listen to Rubio as a followup as well.

I'm not even getting into whether this is evil or not yet, I am questioning how anyone that voted Trump wouldn't see what is going on. Jeb Bush would have done this in 2017, why hire a Bush wanna be to do something a Bush is available to do. Obviously, the Orange man didn't leave the club.

Yhe club reminded Don of who's in charge.

 

[FLVOL_79]

I'm not interested in what you perceive to be the truth.

This is a perfect example of accidentally stating you aren't interested in the truth and just want reassurance that what you believe is the truth. Poor snowflake.

 

[EasternVol]

No question oil and the Persian Gulf had something to do with Kuwait. As for the other countries, all of those were poised to go authoritarian and we saved them from that

We were on the government's side in El Salvador. They were very authoritarian.

 

[FLVOL_79]

First, how do you know those numbers are correct vs just made up?
Second, there is a huge difference in supporting a dictator, and being critical of a action of the potus which is probably illegal.

Fake name, cheap Oakley's, desperately clinging to a Homer Simpson haircut, posted on the internet, why wouldn't you believe these numbers?!?

 

[EasternVol]

Freed? They were stealing oil from Iraq

Saddam had invaded and captured Kuwait, justifiably or not, so they did get freed by the coalition.

 

[EasternVol]

How many troops are stationed in Venezuela as part of this invasion?

You may want to check out Venezuela’s record of political prisoners, torture, and killing not to mention property confiscation. 20-30 percent of the population didn’t flee the country because of its warm collectivism.

That's mainly from the train wreck economy there.