The Venezuela thread

[EasternVol]

This is how it should be. The US anacan help, but we shouldnt ever be the ones initiating that kind of change.

True. If there's a humanitarian catastrophe or the like then the UN can act and we can tag along.

 

[EasternVol]

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Tim, Tim, Tim.
All that letting your phone choose your words for nothing.
Obama already had his NPP when he did all that.

 

[norrislakevol]

True. If there's a humanitarian catastrophe or the like then the UN can act and we can tag along.

What would the U.N. do? Send a strongly worded condemnation? They are a toothless, worthless body.

 

[EasternVol]

What would the U.N. do? Send a strongly worded condemnation? They are a toothless, worthless body.

Send aid to help with the humanitarian side; send soldiers to keep the peace.

 

[hog88]

Send aid to help with the humanitarian side; send soldiers to keep the peace.

Where’s the UN soldiers based?

 

[LSU-SIU]

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The issue isn't that it happened, the issue is the people that voted for the orange man didn't think they were voting for Barrack. Bring Papa Bush back from the grave I guess, people might as well voted for Jeb.



This was a main point in 2015-2016 to get the Orange man started, he wasn't a Republican and he wasn't a Bush, neocon, or uniparty member -> clearly he is. This is pure George Bush Sr. rising from the dead to perform his magical CIA operations.

 

[EasternVol]

Where’s the UN soldiers based?

Now? In their home countries.

 

[Sea Ray]

Trump isn’t Papa Bush. He goes in , gets the job done, and then leaves in hours. We’ve seen this play out here and in Iran. That’s an improvement over the Bush family

 

[norrislakevol]

Send aid to help with the humanitarian side; send soldiers to keep the peace.

In other words, the U.S. will do the vast majority of the work anyways with more talking heads from other countries in the way.

 

[jmacvols1]

 

[norrislakevol]

Yeah the Chinese are even more FOS that the Russians. Commie military equipment is a joke in comparison to modern western countries military equipment.

 

[jmacvols1]

Yeah the Chinese are even more FOS that the Russians. Commie military equipment is a joke in comparison to modern western countries military equipment.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Yeah the Chinese are even more FOS that the Russians. Commie military equipment is a joke in comparison to modern western countries military equipment.

It doesn't work if they didn't turn them on, this was a CIA operation.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Trump isn’t Papa Bush. He goes in , gets the job done, and then leaves in hours. We’ve seen this play out here and in Iran. That’s an improvement over the Bush family

You must not be very old, this isn't Jr. stuff, its Sr stuff. This, Syria and Iran are classic George Bush Sr/CIA operations. Either way, I thought the typical Orange man voter was tired of this horse ****. Might as well have Jeb running foreign policy.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Damn now I'm going to be thinking about a "what if" with Fiona Apple circa 99.

she was amazing

 

[norrislakevol]

It doesn't work if they didn't turn them on, this was a CIA operation.

True, but commie equipment is still inferior.

 

[LSU-SIU]

True, but commie equipment is still inferior.

True. That is what the Ukrainians keep saying. If only the goat herders got the message.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

This is how it should be. The US can help, but we shouldnt ever be the ones initiating that kind of change.

I have no issue with going in there and taking him out and bringing him back for trial, but that should be it and nothing more than maybe some state dept help. Our plans go way beyond that, because honestly, it's all about the oil. This has been in the works for years. How can anyone get up there with a straight face and claim it's about anything else?

 

[hog88]

Now? In their home countries.

Same as the UN aid?

 

[LSU-SIU]

I have no issue with going in there and taking him out and bringing him back for trial, but that should be it and nothing more than maybe some state dept help. Our plans go way beyond that, because honestly, it's all about the oil. This has been in the works for years. How can anyone get up there with a straight face and claim it's about anything else?

Trump said it was about oil, I believe him and I'm sure the Chinese believe him... and the world believes him. Many on the forum have said how that is a good thing. Apparently, the U.S. isn't done with Bush foreign policy, in this case, H.W. All we need now is for Eric, Donald Jr., and Barron to start flying drug and arms shipments.

Maybe get the ole gang back together -> they'll have to dig up one of them though.

 

[volbound1700]

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Here is the thing that both sides on these forums don't understand. It doesn't matter who we elected, we get involved in international conflicts. Why?

Perhaps if people on this forum saw what our National Intelligence knows and studied the real dynamics in this world, we might have a different view.

Maybe it isn't that Bush, Obama, Trump, etc. are war mongers, maybe it is that there is just real sh1t out there that requires our involvement for the betterment of our people.


That being said, when we try to "occupy" and "rebuild" nations, that becomes the problem. Both Afghanistan and Iraq started out looking very good with minimal deaths and money spent. It was the rebuild of both nations, especially ~2-3 years into it, that things started to get rough.

I do wonder about Iraq sometimes. Iraq might be more successful of an operation than we often talk about. Iraq still seems to have the government they elected in control and things are quiet out of that nation. Perhaps that is a success?

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

I have no issue with going in there and taking him out and bringing him back for trial, but that should be it and nothing more than maybe some state dept help. Our plans go way beyond that, because honestly, it's all about the oil. This has been in the works for years. How can anyone get up there with a straight face and claim it's about anything else?

Disagree…..it’s about precious metals and not letting our adversaries continue to have a strong prescience here and have access to their oil / metals. It is not just about oil.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Disagree…..it’s about precious metals and not letting our adversaries continue to have a strong prescience here and have access to their oil / metals. It is not just about oil.

Yes, bombing countries and removing people in the name of competition. Awesome!

 

[Rickyvol77]

Disagree…..it’s about precious metals and not letting our adversaries continue to have a strong prescience here and have access to their oil / metals. It is not just about oil.

Well in fairness, it's about "oil" because our oil companies had $10 billion worth of assets there and the commies literally stole it, so we took it back

 

[LSU-SIU]

Well in fairness, it's about "oil" because our oil companies had $10 billion worth of assets there and the commies literally stole it, so we took it back

That is those corporations problems as a generalization, they choose to work there. They are not "our (we)" assets.