The Radical Islamic Terrorism Catch-All Thread

pretty sure a Islam as a religion has no art, don't think they have music either. But Muslims themselves have a wide variety of both. you are lumping the whole religion into one group. We don't group, Italian, French and Spanish cultures together even though they have the same religious back ground. why do you treat Islamic nations and people as one whole?

if you don't like the food, you don't like the food; but you can't deny it exists and makes them unique.

and women was just brought up as a tongue in cheek point. but it has similar results as to their food.

There's no Christian art or Christian music? Hmm.

You're not paying attention. I speak of Middle East Islamic Culture. The vast majority are crap with a few outliers.

Who said their food doesn't exist?

You know less about Middle East culture than I do, you can stop preaching any time.
 
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Muslims absolutely need to be the loudest voices condemning this sort of thing. And progressives should be right behind them.

There are many Muslims who are condemning ISIS and their actions. There isn't a Muslim I personally know who in any way thinks of ISIS as anymore as disgusting savages. But when Jim Bob Sawyer from bum**** Mississippi who has probably never seen a Muslim in real life is posting all over the internet on how Islam is the root of all evil and that Islam needs to be eradicated is getting shared and liked across the landscape, the Muslims here aren't so much worried about the astronically low chances of being a victim of a terrorist attack from ISIS, but of the millions of people directly around them who want nothing of their religion or culture and are clearly showing prejudice.

PV, you make an interesting observation, that can take us back to MONEY / shipping / the right to fair trade associated with the Barbary War.

The pirates were demanding the US pay tributes equal to 10% of our national budget.

Here is what Jefferson and John Adams were told, when they asked by what rights the Barbary states were attacking American shipping:

“The Ambassador answered us that it was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.”

https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Jefferson/01-09-02-0315

I think this is what Pres. Madison eventually said: “It is a settled policy of America, that as peace is better than war, war is better than tribute. The United States, while they wish for war with no nation, will buy peace with none.”

Re-read what rjd suggests.

Compare the "The Great Commission" endorsed of the Christians (Matt 28:16-20) to the early caravan raids endorsed by those of Islam (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_expeditions_of_Muhammad)?
 
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There's no Christian art or Christian music? Hmm.

You're not paying attention. I speak of Middle East Islamic Culture. The vast majority are crap with a few outliers.

Who said their food doesn't exist?

You know less about Middle East culture than I do, you can stop preaching any time.

that art and music are dependent on the people and the time. I can speak from experience that German Christian music is different than American Christian music, and not just the language, same for Italian. And while I can't speak it as a fact but I am willing to bet all Christian music has gone through changes with the time even though Christianity hasn't change in the same ways.

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those are three Christian cathedrals. they are completely different, and have a good bit of other differences that you probably won't pick up on from a visual inspection.

southern gospel vs northern hymns. still christians and probably even the same flavors, completely different music.

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same thing with these mosques. completely different based on culture.

and you could do the same side by side comparison just looking at different eras from the same culture.

in either cases, Christianity or Islam, the religion is an influence on the culture but it does not form it.
 
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that art and music are dependent on the people and the time. I can speak from experience that German Christian music is different than American Christian music, and not just the language, same for Italian. And while I can't speak it as a fact but I am willing to bet all Christian music has gone through changes with the time even though Christianity hasn't change in the same ways.

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those are three Christian cathedrals. they are completely different, and have a good bit of other differences that you probably won't pick up on from a visual inspection.

southern gospel vs northern hymns. still christians and probably even the same flavors, completely different music.

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same thing with these mosques. completely different based on culture.

and you could do the same side by side comparison just looking at different eras from the same culture.

in either cases, Christianity or Islam, the religion is an influence on the culture but it does not form it.

Why are so many Muslims from amazingly cultured and artistic ME and NA Muslim cultures fleeing to non-Muslim countries?
 
Georgia resident, will apply to every school in Georgia and will apply to 20 or so others across the country. I'll know more when I get my scores.

Good luck. I know you've already had more advice than you care to hear. But, I know several young doctors who just finished residency this month. Listening to them talk at their ceremony & parties, I got the impression that one or two with the higher student loans- because they didn't stay instate and went to a more prestigeous school- were bemoaning the near $200K plus interest they owed. They are just now, in their early 30's, starting to make "the big bucks" but here they are, over $200,000 in debt. My son's best friend in college has been earning over $100,000/yr a few years now. Has a family, two kids. Really beautiful new home almost paid off. Mine's leaving a huge house cut up into seven apartment's.
 
Good luck. I know you've already had more advice than you care to hear. But, I know several young doctors who just finished residency this month. Listening to them talk at their ceremony & parties, I got the impression that one or two with the higher student loans- because they didn't stay instate and went to a more prestigeous school- were bemoaning the near $200K plus interest they owed. They are just now, in their early 30's, starting to make "the big bucks" but here they are, over $200,000 in debt. My son's best friend in college has been earning over $100,000/yr a few years now. Has a family, two kids. Really beautiful new home almost paid off. Mine's leaving a huge house cut up into seven apartment's.

Thanks! Regardless of who you are, student loans will always be annoying. But amongst all the people who finish school with student loan debt, a doctor would have the easiest time paying it off, so I'm not too concerned with the potential debt. If I majored in women's studies at an expensive private school, I would be very concerned financially.
 

Uh. If you've had a point you'll need to point it out. Otherwise you can kindly go suck your thumb in the corner. Middle East Islamic culture is **** culture. It's not my fault you can't defend your retarded position that it's something great.

Also, feel free to answer my question.
 
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Uh. If you've had a point you'll need to point it out. Otherwise you can kindly go suck your thumb in the corner. Middle East Islamic culture is **** culture. It's not my fault you can't defend your retarded position that it's something great.

Also, feel free to answer my question.

lol, we were arguing about where a culture came from. I provided examples and pictures and you changed the argument to being about why they are leaving. that's moving the goal posts. just because you don't care for a culture doesn't mean it sucks.

They are leaving because of violence, not from any lack of culture.
 
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lol, we were arguing about where a culture came from. I provided examples and pictures and you changed the argument to being about why they are leaving. that's moving the goal posts. just because you don't care for a culture doesn't mean it sucks.

They are leaving because of violence, not from any lack of culture.

No, you provided nothing. I'm quite aware of the difference between religion, culture and race. It's retarded when people call anti-Islam stuff racist (for example). I get it. I can post pictures of homes and it won't prove some point.

The culture sucks ass. That's why they're leaving. The culture is violence, not some art or music.

Why does Mexico suck?
El Salvador?
Nicaragua?
Etc...?

The people. The culture. That's why they suck.
 
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No, you provided nothing. I'm quite aware of the difference between religion, culture and race. It's retarded when people call anti-Islam stuff racist (for example). I get it. I can post pictures of homes and it won't prove some point.

The culture sucks ass. That's why they're leaving. The culture is violence, not some art or music.

Why does Mexico suck?
El Salvador?
Nicaragua?
Etc...?

The people. The culture. That's why they suck.

if the culture is violent why are the violent people leaving? You don't leave if that's your culture, you don't go to a place where your culture isn't there.

I would say the area ultimately sucks because of the leadership.

and if the culture of violence sucks, and causes people to leave why should we make our culture violent? Sounds like you are wanting us to head down the same path of suck-itude they are stuck on.

*ftr I don't think their culture is one of violence. if that was the case pretty much everyone but switzerland and nepal would have cultures of violence.
 
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if the culture is violent why are the violent people leaving? You don't leave if that's your culture, you don't go to a place where your culture isn't there.

I would say the area ultimately sucks because of the leadership.

and if the culture of violence sucks, and causes people to leave why should we make our culture violent? Sounds like you are wanting us to head down the same path of suck-itude they are stuck on.

*ftr I don't think their culture is one of violence. if that was the case pretty much everyone but switzerland and nepal would have cultures of violence.

That first sentence makes you straight up foolish. Ignorant of everything over there. Good god man.
There is no reason to read any more. You clearly know nothing of violent Muslim terrorism. Perhaps you should try turning on a television. It's like a movie in your house but it's continuous. Open your eyes to the world. See what you see, not what you want to see.
 
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There are many Muslims who are condemning ISIS and their actions. There isn't a Muslim I personally know who in any way thinks of ISIS as anymore as disgusting savages. But when Jim Bob Sawyer from bum**** Mississippi who has probably never seen a Muslim in real life is posting all over the internet on how Islam is the root of all evil and that Islam needs to be eradicated is getting shared and liked across the landscape, the Muslims here aren't so much worried about the astronically low chances of being a victim of a terrorist attack from ISIS, but of the millions of people directly around them who want nothing of their religion or culture and are clearly showing prejudice.

Because Jews, Mormons, Buddhists, Christians and Hindus are perpetuating terrorist attacks every day.
Just this morning I saw a white guy who looked very angry in traffic and he yelled Jesus Christ..... I'm positive he was about to run over people.
 
if the culture is violent why are the violent people leaving? You don't leave if that's your culture, you don't go to a place where your culture isn't there.

Not agreeing or disagreeing with your overall points, but the quoted doesn't follow.

A violent culture may leave for many reasons. Expansion to perceived weaker cultures for purpose of subjugation, rival violent cultures that can't get along or coexist, etc.
 

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