The Problem of Whiteness

Where do you get the idea I suck at life? I've never said anything about myself. I keep my arguments about how to make this country and society better. And how to make things more equal and just.

You guys are the ones that keep bringing up your personal struggles and blaming it in others. I'm talking about societal problems that affect other people and how to make it better.

Your answer to make it better is us all admit we're racist, and give you money. Man look, I don't know you, or anything about you other than the stuff you say on here. It's obvious from your posts that you have an underlying problem with white people. I've got caught up in it and called you a racist, and said some of your comments are stupid. Whatever has happened in your life that makes you think all whites want to keep all blacks down, I'm sorry you feel that way. I honestly pray that God will show you every white person is not what you think, or at least how you post. I don't care your religion, or if you're an atheist, I'm gonna pray for you anyway. I wasn't a fan of trump or hillary, but the things you say are exactly why trump was elected. I have mostly democrat family who has never voted republican, that did this time. Why? They're tired of being called racist, homophobic white people, just because they're white. I hate what happened to black people during slavery in America, but I had nothing to do with it. Heck man, my dad's family is Irish (check into their history), and my grandpa on my mom's side was full blooded Indian (may wanna check theirs also). Blacks aren't the only people to have gotten done wrong, and I'm also not ignorant to the fact of blacks are responsible for selling some slaves to whites. I'm also not ignorant to slavery still going on in parts of Africa, yet where's the outcry there? You have a lot of anger towards whites, it's blatantly obvious by your words. I'm sorry that I have responded in the wrong way before, and I honestly pray you stop seeing hate, and see many of us have no problem until we're falsely accused. Merry Christmas.
 
Inky Johnson was also 5'9" and he made it.

Stop blaming genetics for your failures.

You just didn't want it as bad as a kid from the ghetto.

I'm sure Inky weighed more than 143 lbs as well. I am positive he was faster than I was too. Some people have limitations on how fast they are. I worked hard in every aspect of training. Wanted to make it more than anything but regardless of the amount of training, athletic ability wasn't there. One thing you fail to account for is that genetics determine everything about a person. Athletic ability, predisposing to diseases, hair color, eye color, everything. Years upon years of evolution of people adapting to their environment and passing those genes down determine what a group of people become. And you just want to discount it like one of those flat earthed who don't believe the world is round. You research knowledge that only supports your viewpoints and don't look at all knowledge objectively. Gypsies aren't known for their athletic ability.
 
Inky Johnson was also 5'9" and he made it.

Stop blaming genetics for your failures.

You just didn't want it as bad as a kid from the ghetto.

Oh and stop blaming white supremacy for yours. Your failures are a result of your arrogance and ignorance. But keep on spouting your misguided philosophies. It truly exposes your ignorance. For every valid point you make (of which there are very few), you lob out several ignorant and racists points afterwards. You truly make it impossible for anyone to take you seriously.
 
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I know what you are d4h and it's obvious. As we know, you came from a middle class family, despite this alleged white supremacy. You have a Christian name like Michael. You went to a mostly white school and your friends were mostly white. They called you Black Michael because there was a white one. You always had lunch money, newish clothes and money to go to the movies, mall, etc.

You went off to college, your friends went elsewhere and you started new. While registering for gen classes you saw an African studies 3 credit course and took it. Your professor spewed the nonsense you are and it inspired you to obsess over it with four others that argued with the students that opposed. You stayed after class, went to office hours, etc. You got a B in the course but felt you learned "so much about the lies of white people"

You have tried to counter your privilege with black people by naming white people as the devil because you are insecure about how you were raised.

Also, since my post was deleted, Steve Nash is not African. He is Canadian. His parents were British and he moved to Canada at 18 months. He is Canadian.
 
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Do you think, and I'm just spitballing here, that genetics, motivation and culture could all play a role in athletic success?
 
What would a token amount and token apology accomplish?

It would obviously have to be an amount that rectifies the wrong and fully compensates the descendants of slaves.

That is why I said someone with more knowledge on the subject is more qualified to put a figure on this.

Reconciliation vs retribution. An apology and token compensation would allow for some level of healing and forward movement. Full compensation would bankrupt the country which would lead to more division and strife. Would you destroy the country for your justice?
 
Reconciliation vs retribution. An apology and token compensation would allow for some level of healing and forward movement. Full compensation would bankrupt the country which would lead to more division and strife. Would you destroy the country for your justice?

A country that has a large percentage of the population that came after slavery was abolished and whose ancestors didn't have anything to do with slavery. Reparations is a joke.
 
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A country that has a large percentage of the population that came after slavery was abolished and whose ancestors didn't have anything to do with slavery. Reparations is a joke.

I'd say Obama has more than made up for that, about ten trillion worth of reparations.
 
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That you for proving white supremacy.

Africans treating someone white better than they do their own people.

That is what white supremacy does. It causes black people to hate themselves and to worship whites. And Africans are among the most afflicted by white supremacy.

Africans don't consider American blacks their people.
 
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I'm glad you brought up running. It actually makes my point more emphatically than anything else.

Is Barack Obama Sr. "black" in your opinion?
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I think most people would say he's black. And according to modern social conceptions of race, he is what is stereotypical considered a black African. The reason I bring this up is because you keep saying "black" this "black" that, but almost all of the great "black" sprinters are from just one location on earth. They are either West African or more commonly descended from West Africans slaves in the Caribbean or North America. So just as there is basically no white man that has broken 10 flat in the 100, there is no East, Central, or South African that has done so either. So are East Africans, Central Africans, and South Africans not "black"? Are they genetically something else? Or is there something else going on here than just "race"?

Even more perplexing, for the last 10 years or so, both male and female sprinting has been dominated by just one country. Jamaica. A country with a population of just 2.7 million people has produced almost all of the fastest 100m times in both the men and women's side. Are the people of Jamaica their own race? Do they have different genetics from other black people in the West? I mean the Bahamas and Barbados are close by. Why Jamaica? Who not the Bahamas? Or Barbados? For your theory to be true that athletic prowess can be totally explained by genetics, you would have to prove that Jamaicans are somehow genetically different from all other black people around the globe. Because there are over a billion "black" people globally. And yet all the fastest humans come from just one single island that has 2.7 million people. If this was just about race, you would expect more than just one island of people to dominate a specific event. There is alot more going on than "race" when an Island of just 2.7 million people dominate a specific event in this fashion. If you've followed sprinting, you would know CULTURE plays a huge role in the dominance of Jamaicans on the track. They take sprinting alot more serious over there than in almost any other country. I think that and the environment of Jamaica has alot more to do with their dominance than genetics. If it was just genetics, you would think we would see more Brazilian sprinters dominating the track since Brazil got more West African slaves during the slave trade than the rest of the Americas combined. If it was just about genetics shouldn't there be all these great Nigerian sprinters considering its the most populous country in Africa? But nope. Brazil has no great sprinters. Nigeria has no great sprinters. Just a small Island with 2.7 million people produces all the best sprinters.

And now onto long-distance running. Now everyone knows that the East African nations of Kenya and Ethiopia are the most dominant nations in the world when it comes to long-distance running. Every Olympics they dominate the medal stand in all the long distance events. Would you be surprised if I told you that almost all of the great distance runners in those 2 countries come from just 2 tribes? In Kenya, a nation of 44 million people, almost all of the great distance runners actually come from just one tribe. The Kalenjin. This tribe numbers at just 5 million but has won almost all of the gold medals Kenya has ever won. Here is a pretty good article on them: The harsh, lonely lives of Kenya’s astonishingly gifted runners

So how come only one tribe in Kenya produces all the great distance runners? The answer is the environment. Unlike most of Kenya that is at sea level, the Kalenjin live in the highlands along the Great Rift Valley. The Great Rift Valley is prominent in the story of East African long-distance running because its a piece of elevated land that cuts through East Africa and almost all of the great distance runners come from there. Like Kenya, in Ethiopia, all the great distance runners come from pme tribe (the Oromo). And specifically people from the Oromo tribe that live in the highlands along the Great Rift Valley. Living in this higher elevation is what gives these particular East Africans an advantage. Just as alot of top American athletes go to Denver to train because of the higher elevation, Kenyans and Ethiopians from these specific tribes spend their whole lives in these high elevations and that along with a love for distance running and intense training allows them to dominate the long distance running events.

If this was about "race" how come other tribes don't dominate? Or other "black" people? The truth is athletic dominance is very complex. There are a myraid of factors. Race and genetics seem to just be at the bottom of the list. Environment and culture play a much bigger role. That is why 2.7 million Jamaicans and 5 million Kalenjin dominate the sport of track. The other 1 billion plus "black" people are just like everyone else.

Genetics is just a white supremacists excuse when someone black is better than them.

There is so much failure here it's amazing. Let's just start with a glaring example of how we're dealing with somebody who knows far, far less than how he portrays himself.

If it was just about genetics shouldn't there be all these great Nigerian sprinters considering its the most populous country in Africa? But nope.

I will now submit that this assertion literally (as in literally) could not be more wrong. Nigeria is easily the home of Africa's best sprinting. More sub-10 sprinters come from Nigeria than any other African nation. In fact, ONLY the US and Jamaica have produced more sprinters that have managed that elite accomplishment.

As for the rest of his nonsense D4H is attempting to obfuscate the obvious with the minute. A brief recap.

All absolute athletic ability (this is not to be confused with "skills") is genetically limited. Any person will go not one jot further than what their genetics will allow regardless of race, training, nutrition or any other factor. That's just how it goes.

Now let's use gender as an example of genetic separation. It's absolutely true that the fastest women in the world are actually faster than the vast majority of men. However, when the times start getting down to 10.6 pretty much all the women are gone but there are LOTS of men capable of not only matching that but going much, much faster. There is no amount of training, dedication or trying harder that changes this fact.

Now that there's no women left we keep dropping the time and the the people qualifying obviously drop accordingly. Again, this is simple genetics. There are literally only X amount of people on this planet capable of running a legit sub-10.3 and it's not a large number. In 2015 in every sanctioned track meet in the entire world and including every time someone like Bolt, Gay, Gatlin, Blake etc did it more than once a sub-10.3 happened 205 times. Drop that to sub-10.2, a mere .1 of a second, and that number drops to 121. And so it goes and we're back where we started. There are only, regardless of any degree of training or determination or any other factor only a bit over a hundred people that have EVER managed to run a sanctioned sub-10 for 100m. The group to do that is, near as makes no difference, completely monoracial. It is what it is and no wall of words trying to convince anyone that 2+2= anything other than 4 changes that fact.
 
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There is so much failure here it's amazing. Let's just start with a glaring example of how we're dealing with somebody who knows far, far less than how he portrays himself.



I will now submit that this assertion literally (as in literally) could not be more wrong. Nigeria is easily the home of Africa's best sprinting. More sub-10 sprinters come from Nigeria than any other African nation. In fact, ONLY the US and Jamaica have produced more sprinters that have managed that elite accomplishment.

As for the rest of his nonsense D4H is attempting to obfuscate the obvious with the minute. A brief recap.

All absolute athletic ability (this is not to be confused with "skills") is genetically limited. Any person will go not one jot further than what their genetics will allow regardless of race, training, nutrition or any other factor. That's just how it goes.

Now let's use gender as an example of genetic separation. It's absolutely true that the fastest women in the world are actually faster than the vast majority of men. However, when the times start getting down to 10.6 pretty much all the women are gone but there are LOTS of men capable of not only matching that but going much, much faster. There is no amount of training, dedication or trying harder that changes this fact.

Now that there's no women left we keep dropping the time and the the people qualifying obviously drop accordingly. Again, this is simple genetics. There are literally only X amount of people on this planet capable of running a legit sub-10.3 and it's not a large number. In 2015 in every sanctioned track meet in the entire world and including every time someone like Bolt, Gay, Gatlin, Blake etc did it more than once a sub-10.3 happened 205 times. Drop that to sub-10.2, a mere .1 of a second, and that number drops to 121. And so it goes and we're back where we started. There are only, regardless of any degree of training or determination or any other factor only a bit over a hundred people that have EVER managed to run a sanctioned sub-10 for 100m. The group to do that is, near as makes no difference, completely monoracial. It is what it is and no wall of words trying to convince anyone that 2+2= anything other than 4 changes that fact.

Get your facts...Error...I mean white supremacist lies out of here!
 
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That you for proving white supremacy.

Africans treating someone white better than they do their own people.

That is what white supremacy does. It causes black people to hate themselves and to worship whites. And Africans are among the most afflicted by white supremacy.

Mythbusters..you're welcome.
 
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Black people are struggling in America because of white supremacy. It has brainwashed the population into believing they are inferior. Its not that black culture is violent or lazy. Its been made to be violent and lazy by white supremacy.

If black people are allowed to learn their true history rather than the lies to white supremacy, we can return to the glory of Ancient Mali, Ancient Egypt, and the Moorish reign.

The Moorish reign was NOT a glory. It was Islamic Jihad and the instillation of sharia law. And talk about supremicists! Islamic supremicists are the most violent crazy our way or pay rent to live dingbats on earth.
 
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That you for proving white supremacy.

Africans treating someone white better than they do their own people.

That is what white supremacy does. It causes black people to hate themselves and to worship whites. And Africans are among the most afflicted by white supremacy.

I wouldn't suggest for you hate yourself because youre black. However, you should hate yourself because you're stupid.
 
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The Moorish reign was NOT a glory. It was Islamic Jihad and the instillation of sharia law. And talk about supremicists! Islamic supremicists are the most violent crazy our way or pay rent to live dingbats on earth.

Lol at his "reigns"..

Moors, crushed by the White Europeans. Thankfully real heroes, like Charles Martel, kept them confined to small areas of Europe during their little saunter into southern Europe.

Mali is a funny one. A "great"African empire who dealt in large quantities of.........slaves...who then faded away because White people established more efficient trade routes via the sea. Water's racist.

Egypt..its funny that people like D4H try to tie this in with themselves. Again, science fiction here. But if you want to believe blacks ruled Egypt based off some writings of old white guys who also talked about human monopods with feet so big they could shade themselves from the sun, enjoy being crazy.

Yes D4H...celebrate your African empires. Some were impressive in their day. Yet I would caution reading the last chapters in their stories because, you know, White people..
 
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That you for proving white supremacy.

Africans treating someone white better than they do their own people.

That is what white supremacy does. It causes black people to hate themselves and to worship whites. And Africans are among the most afflicted by white supremacy.

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D4H, you are the biggest bigot against black people when you call people like Ben Carson "Uncle Tom" and "Coons". You don't think black people are capable of diverse thought when they disagree with your politics. You have made it well known that blacks are specifically suppose to think one way and one way only. They aren't suppose to be conservative according to you. They are suppose to believe the opinions of social justice warriors, not the political opinions of the conservatives. You call people uncle Tom's who do not believe that they can get out of the ghetto using education and conservative principles. That is truly the most bigoted thing I've heard in awhile.

The philosophy of Martin Luther King Jr. has been officially dead since SJW started protesting and destroying their own towns and communities. The philosophy has been dead since they are trying to blame white supremacy for destroying their communities when they are killing each other and destroying their own cities. This proves that Malcolm X won and MLK lost. It's really sad. With this victim mentality, black people will never get pass this issue no matter the reparations.

This is why you are the biggest racist against your own kind on here. The mentality that blacks are suppose to think one way and one way only is the most bigoted thing I've heard recently. Its intellectual bigotry.
 
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Africans don't consider American blacks their people.

When I was at TSU I had a lab partner from Africa. He was very well spoken and asked me several times why black people in the US acted the way they do. It blew my mind. I used to crack up on how he talked and his choice of words. He was almost a dead ringer for Eddie Murphy in Coming To America.
 
So you admit black people lacking behind other races in this country is a result of a violent and lazy culture. That's refreshing.

Or are you saying that when black people succed it's because they worked hard, when white people succeed it's because of white supremacy?
Yes.
 
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